Tovarish

Tasteless - yes. Funny - Yep, I'll admit, it made me chuckle Conclusion - We're all going to hell! We're all going to hell!(c'mon chant with me now)

History repeats, and like it or not, it's a precedent. Also remember that he US tried to negotiate with the Taliban, and they only declared them an "illegitimate government" after those negotiations didn't go their way

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ May 12 2002,00:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So, the founding fathers of the US were terrorists, not soldiers. Â They were NOT part of a legitimate government until AFTER the revolutionary war.<span id='postcolor'> good point, same goes for any revolutionary government

So I'm at my parents watching TV and they showed updated news on this, the final death toll is 41, and they just showed a ceremony honouring those who died. The band there was playing the Soviet anthem. The dead and injured were mostly vets from Checnya and their children, who were marching with them.

Story Here I'm really wondering if these Islamic radicals want anything except martyrdom for all their people, because the way this is going they are going to have every developed country after them Â

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ May 12 2002,00:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They are selling mig-29's!!?? WTF!!??<span id='postcolor'> (OK my last unrelated post) Yep, they sell first generation MiG-29's, they have too many and they are too expensive to upgrade. They take off any weapon systems/radar, ect, anything that's classified, so all you really get is the airframe, engines, and navigation systems. Even so, read the fine print, it is very heavily regulated. I remember a couple of years ago an american dot-com billionaire was denied permission by the US to buy one because even with all the weapons/radar stripped off, it was still considered a weapon.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ May 11 2002,23:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey, just imagine it! The cheapest jet fighter i've ever heard of is the mig-23 (2 million $ . i would buy 2 or 3 su-35's for personal use.<span id='postcolor'> MiG-21 for $65000

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ May 11 2002,23:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">30$<span id='postcolor'> lol damn, I could buy roughly 100 of them with what I have in my bank account

maybe, maybe not. But I have an albino friend who works at McDonalds and (true story) he cut off the very tip of his finger while preparing a burger...so next time you order a burger there watch for that little whiter-than-usual piece of meat

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nordin dk @ May 11 2002,23:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Especially when I'm at McDonalds, and am ready to eat their nuked hamburgers.<span id='postcolor'> It's the Secret Sauce

You know what this thread suddenly made me realize? "Where the hell's placebo?!" I remember the days when threads like this wouldn't last 2 minutes.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ May 11 2002,22:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But the F-22 can kick anyones ass<span id='postcolor'> Same thing was said about the F-4 when it came out. In fact, the US was so confident in it's advanced missile technology that they saw no need to install a gun in it. What changed their minds? When outdated MiG-17's and their armament of 3 30mm cannons started shooting down F-4's over Vietnam. Promptly a gun was installed in all subsequent F-4's and is still retained in US fighters today.

The moose wins (stealth is everything, I bet none of you noticed him before now)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ May 11 2002,22:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, they know how to entertain people.<span id='postcolor'> They had a contest where they had people try to chug a 2L Canada Dry while they were playing a song, to see who would finish faster. Most of the girls got most of the Canada Dry down the front of their shirts, and I was standing in the front row against the barrier. Now that's entretainment!!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ May 11 2002,22:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmm.. do I smell a "War on Terror" against Cuba coming up ps. Oh, yeah I forgot about the treaty with the Soviets - no nuclear missiles on Cuba, no invasion of Cuba... I wonder if that one is still technically valid since there is no Soviet Union today.<span id='postcolor'> The day that happens is the day I loose any credibility in the US and go back to supporting Castro

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ May 11 2002,22:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I could care less how noble he started out as, the point is that as soon as he was in power he turned into something just as bad as Batista. I dont mind that he hates the US, Ive gotten used to the fact that a lot of people do. But I do mind that he keeps Cuba from advancing, and holds Cubas people down for the sake of staying in power<span id='postcolor'> Not as soon as he got into power, but as soon as he realized the US wasn't going to sit back and let him run the country, so he had to ask the Soviets for help and subsequently Cuba became a communist country. (btw, i lived there, and before the early 90's when the USSR broke up, life was actually pretty good), but anyways none of that is the point. I agree with you completely that he has become what he set out to defeat. But taking us back to your previous quote: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just find it slightly ironic that a trained physician who took the Hippocratic oath would support and aid such a violator of human rights like Fidel Castro <span id='postcolor'> Do you suppose Ché had some sort of crystal ball back then to tell him Castro would turn out as he is now?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ May 11 2002,22:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mi avion preferido es el Su-37 ruso.<span id='postcolor'> A mi me gusta el S-37 (no es lo mismo pero Sukhoi tambien lo esta construyendo). Pero por ahora solamente es un prototypo:

nothing, my parents have a big-screen with cable so if I really want to watch something badly I just pay a visit.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Vampire @ May 11 2002,22:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LMAO LMFAO hahahaha man these guys crack me up every time they say soon to be released I heard it 4 months ago than its coming out in 1 week.. LMAO.. When they mean soon to be released they are talking  in a way for us to give them 5 more months.<span id='postcolor'> You mean kind of like BIS and Oxygen? I can totally understand OFP Internals's delays, they have a lot less to go by than BIS, they're hacking away at the game figuring out how it works to make us proper tools, no wonder they run into some obstacles. At least they've given us a new and unique island

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mora2 @ May 11 2002,21:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Isn't Eurofighter Typhoon cool?  " Jamón serrano.....avión americano....    <span id='postcolor'> Que quieres decir con eso? Que si no es americano no es "cool"? Por lo menos Espańa esta contribuyendo a la construccion de Eurofighter.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ May 10 2002,23:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Canadian Bands: -The Tragically Hip -Our Lady Peace -Matthew Good Band -I Mother Earth (early stuff) -Nickleback -TrebleCharger (early stuff)<span id='postcolor'> I forgot to mention MGB, they're one of my faves too. "Symbolistic Whitewalls" is one of my all time favourite songs. TrebleCharger actually played at my college's Frosh party at the beginning of the school year! Amazing show. They also did a cover of the Beastie Boys "You gotta Fight for Your Right", and of Ozzy's "Crazy Train" right before playing "American Psycho". . Those guys were great fun, halfway throughout they told us to "Get back in that beer tent and get shit faced!!" because "You all don't look drunk enough". When everyone started trowing these rubber stress-balls we had been given, they were great about it, laughing and saying that usually it was beer bottles, and when they were done playing, we made so much noise they came back out for an encore!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ May 11 2002,21:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just find it slightly ironic that a trained physician who took the Hippocratic oath would support and aid such a violator of human rights like Fidel Castro<span id='postcolor'> Fidel has become corrupted by his power, but back then Batista was the one jailing, exiling or executing his political enemies left and right. During the Revolution, his air force napalmed villages just because of suspicions that revolutionaries may be there. How the hell do you think an armed force of 80, of which only a dozen survived the initial beach landing, came to defeat a US-sponsored military? Fidel had massive popular support, and with good reason. The present is a completely different matter however. To quote my grandfather, who still lives in Cuba and is by no means a fan of Castro: "I understand that Fidel wanted what was best for Cuba, and back in 59 what he did was for the best, but his great flaw is that he is so blinded by his ideals now that he dosen't see that he is the one causing the most suffering to the Cuban people. It's time for him to go."

Well in the screenshots of your MiG-21 model it only has a vertical tail fin and delta wing...making it look somewhat like a Mirage. The MiG also has horizontal tail fins, like in the picture I posted above

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ May 11 2002,01:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Binding appendages when being moved is standard operating procedure... it prevents them from doing something dumb like running for it... then the guards might feel obliged to use deadly force.<span id='postcolor'> Running for it would be suicidal in any case, of course they (the detainees) don't know to what extent; The base is surrounded my minefields, and Cuban snipers are always watching the perimeter. *edit* if it was up to me and one ran, I'd just sit back and let him serve as an example to the rest. The US guards wouldn't even need to lift a finger

José Martí, Cuba's most beloved national hero (For the communists and anti-communists alike!!!. I did a paper on him in my last year of high school, and got 48/50 (Lost two marks on Mechanical errors! ) unfortunately I only have a hard copy but I was thinking of retyping it anyways and posting a link to it on the net, so I guess I'll start doing that now, and I'll post a link to it here for anyone interested.