Tovarish

heh, how about I post a list of all the towns I've lived in? (this may get long) Cotorro, Havana Province, Cuba Old Havana, Havana Province, Cuba Krivoii Rog, Ukraine Moscow, Russia Gander, Newfoundland, Canada St John's, Newfoundland, Canada Kitchener, Ontario, Canada Nepean, Ontario, Canada Ottawa, Ontario, Canada In case anyone's wondering I hope to add Miami Florida to the end of that list as soon as I finish college, Ottawa's nice but I'm sick of freezing my balls off .

Yep, like I feared we've gone offtopic and now it's a communism vs capitalism thing. I still can't understand the thickheadedness of coments like these: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Honestly, we should have armed the Germans after we beat them (and Japan) and went after Russia, we had the bomb and they didn't.<span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If the end is better than the means, why not? Imagine a world were there was no cold war. Where there isn't a need for a stockpile of thousands of nuclear missiles. Imagine no need to fight wars like Vietnam or Korea. Would a world full of democratic and free counties be that bad? <span id='postcolor'>

You are improving Hasharajima, as soon as I saw you replied to this thread I was sure your post would mention your future marriage to that Cobra. In fact I would have been ready to wager my week's paycheque on it . Good thing I didn't

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ May 31 2002,02:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Try living without women after you get it for the first time. I'm telling you that thing leaches all of the testosterone out of your body for a few hours and then it comes back about tenfold. Ahhhh, sex is the finest. <----- (obviously getting some right now)<span id='postcolor'> Don't I know it . Get dumped right before college, then I go to an engineering campus, where there are maybe 5 girls in my area of study, 2 of e'm good looking, both taken. Damn it's been a lot of Kleenex . After you get a little taste, NIN's "The Perfect Drug" takes on a whole new meaning...Oh well, next year all the engineering courses are being moved to the arts and business campus....lots of chicks there .

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ May 31 2002,00:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">starving and homeless.<span id='postcolor'> Hmmmm. I think that situation applies better over in Russia than it does here.<span id='postcolor'> Reality check, I lived in Russia, and no one I knew there went hungry until after the collapse of communism.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ May 31 2002,00:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well the thing is, the socialist republics never were 'for the people' How can they be 'for the people' when they ban free speech? and just about any other rights that we cherish here. Tyler<span id='postcolor'> I wont get into an argument on the pros and cons of communism with you here, but neither system is perfect in my opinion, of course, free speech is essential, but still not much good if you are starving and homeless. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Whatever it takes to achieve our cause"<span id='postcolor'> I never said that. I don't think destroying the world would be very good for our health. Â <span id='postcolor'> Really? Your first quote on the matter said otherwise, and to be honest pissed me off: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Honestly, we should have armed the Germans after we beat them (and Japan) and went after Russia, we had the bomb and they didn't.<span id='postcolor'> As much as I'd like to continue this discussion I have to leave now, but I'll be back sometime after midnight.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ May 31 2002,00:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ May 30 2002,14:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Um, what do you think Hitler was doing to his fellow Jewish citizens?<span id='postcolor'> <span id='postcolor'> Yes, you are right, that was a bad distinction on my part

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ May 31 2002,00:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If the end is better than the means, why not? Imagine a world were there was no cold war. Where there isn't a need for a stockpile of thousands of nuclear missiles. Imagine no need to fight wars like Vietnam or Korea. Would a world full of democratic and free counties be that bad?<span id='postcolor'> That is almost word for word what my old communist teachers used to say, and honestly it sickens me. Just replace "Would a world full of democratic and free counties be that bad?" with something like Would a world full of socialist republics for the people be that bad?". Yep, thick headed fanatisism, same thing Stalin, Hitler and Osama were made of "Whatever it takes to achieve our cause" </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Before the Nazis invaded, Stalin was already massing troops at the border. Wether this was a defensive or offensive move, we may never know. <span id='postcolor'> Very far from the truth, Stalin was caught completely umprepared, ironically he trusted Hitler. Most of the airforce was destroyed on the ground, does that sound like a country gearing up for war? Or what of the fact that a few German soldiers defected right before Barbarosa, told the Russians what was about to happen, and Stalin dismissed them as troublemakers and had them shot for trying to create an incident?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ May 30 2002,23:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What? and the communists werent imperialist? Russia kept all the lands it took after WW2.<span id='postcolor'> Yes, they were, but I would expect someone who grew up in a democracy and didn't have ideology drilled into his head to be more enlightened </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We both know which system is better, why NOT spread it around the world? Tyler<span id='postcolor'> Spoken like a true fanatical hardliner. I bet you would also say the end justifies the means.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ May 30 2002,22:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Honestly, we should have armed the Germans after we beat them (and Japan) and went after Russia, we had the bomb and they didn't.<span id='postcolor'> Nice to know that the tales of "Western Imperialist Rats" I was taught in school as a child were'nt completely baseless . I hate Stalin as much as Hitler, maybe more since he was slaughtering his own people, but Assault, you sure show a lot of gratitude for a country wich suffered more casualties than all the other allies combined to stop the Nazis  </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Must've been sniffing maple syrup.<span id='postcolor'> British Columbian hemp is rumored to be twice as potent as anything else, that may also explain it.

Whatever you do, try to avoid anyone with a lot of emotional baggage. Also, take it slow at first. If you see the relationshop go light-speed after the first date, it's going to be fleeting, and if you get to like the girl too much too fast you'll be crushed if she changes her mind about you. Last year I fell in love (yep, the big L, no doubt about it) with this girl over the course of a week. We had a hell of a lot in common. She was Israeli-Russian, I'm Cuban-Russian. We both grew up without a father, we've both been dragged around the world like a piece of luggage, and she hated pop music as much as I do. Then she started avoiding me, so I called her up and asked her straight out is we had a problem, and she said "of course not, ive just been busy". The very next day, she calls me and gives me the "it's not you, it's me" line, and says she's just not ready, asks if we can be friends, and as messed up as it all was I said yes. I never heard from that crazy chick again. which brings me to my last piece of advice, NEVER try to understand them, you might as well try to explain the universe.

hmmm.....how about Canadian food? I like it, but before I tried it and after I heard what it was, I thought poutine was the weirdest food i'd ever heard of. "Beavertails" had me confused for a while too

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">a Hercules transport jet was to bring in more supplies last night. <span id='postcolor'> That right there shows just how much the reporter knew about aircraft. I've said it before: the state of our air force is laughable. Anyone remember that wayward weather baloon a few years ago? We sent two CF-18's to shoot it down, and it managed to get all the way to Russia

Ah, okie dokie, so not everyone has crossed over to the Politically Correct Darkside yet....lol the timing of it did seem king of funny. Divine intervention? Hmm almost sorry to post this cause it'll ruin my 666 postcount . Oh well I took a screenshot

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ May 24 2002,23:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SKULLS_Viper @ May 24 2002,23:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Eating humans. Savages did that.<span id='postcolor'> Yep, those damn Catholics, blood of Christ and body of Christ...what are they thinking? <span id='postcolor'> Hmm...I'm confused and I want to clear something up....was I meant to get banned for that? Because shortly after that post I could no longer post from that same computer and got that nice little "Sorry, you are not allowed to use this board" message. Well, if that's so, some mod has seriously misplaced their sense of humor and/or has a serious bug infestation of their rectum. If there was any confusion about the matter, I have nothing against Catholics, it was a joke, I'm equally prejudiced against all organized religion, I personally feel all organized religion is a sham, and I'm sorry if this offends anyone here, but I'm sure a lot of you who know me will agree that I respect people's right to religion a lot more than any Jehova's Witness has respected my right to be an atheist . Anyways there's my rant, maybe all it was is a fluke but I thought it was kind of suspicious that I couldnt post from that IP anymore a little while after that post. And if I am truly meant to be banned for this, well now y'all know what happened if you don't see me again.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SKULLS_Viper @ May 24 2002,23:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Eating humans. Savages did that.<span id='postcolor'> Yep, those damn Catholics, blood of Christ and body of Christ...what are they thinking?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ May 24 2002,20:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey, i've just noticed the North Korean Air Force insignia is a red star with a circle around it. Unnamed Foreign Power, they say? <span id='postcolor'> I haven't seen Top Gun in a while but I'm pretty sure I remember the MiGs were supposed to be Soviet. And how about the fact the MiG pilots always had their tinted visors down? "Let's not show the enemy pilots faces, they'll look too human"

About 3 years ago a Russian-Jewish friend of mine made my jaw drop when he ordered a bacon cheeseburger. Then again he was kind of exentric when it came to his religion, he just followed the bits & pieces he liked. A couple of days ago a frend of mine tried to pass me off as a Jew to "spare you from eating my mom's porkchops". Didn't work too well because for some reason I found the whole sham incredibly funny

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ May 24 2002,14:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Russian Government wont "favour" one company over the other as they are both government owned.<span id='postcolor'> Not since the Soviet Union broke up. Now it's all a big business

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ May 23 2002,22:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ooops It was mig-33 i think, also called mig-29m. I remember the mig-28 in top gun, all right. It looked suspiciously close to the f-5 tiger, don't you think? <span id='postcolor'> Ah yes, the MiG-33, I thought you might have meant that one. It's another one of my favourites but it looks like the Russian government has started favouring the Su-27 family over that of the MiG-29. I'm starting to think it will never be more than a prototype. As for using the F-5 in Top Gun, I can understand that completely, the Cold War was still on...and to be fair the US used them as agressors simulating MiGs, but they at least should have made an attempt to make them look like MiGs, with Soviet-style camouflage and markings instead of all black...a bit too much like the "men with black hats" in Westerns . And what the hell was it with having a circle around the red star?? And given it an actual existing designation.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ May 23 2002,21:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wonder... why don't they take the s-37 (the one with forward swept wings) and put 3d vectoring engines on it? Then it could be the most maneuverable aircraft in the world!<span id='postcolor'> Because they're broke. As for what the commentator is saying, basically a play by play of all the maneuvers, I had a hard time understanding everything he said myself, since the audio quality is kind of shitty, and I have a hard time understanding Russians if they speak too fast anyway. *edit* Umm...ain't no such thing as a MiG-30....I hate movies/fgames that do that.....like the MiG-28 in Top Gun *2nd edit* And anyways, the Russian's have realized that most customers are more than happy with the maneuverability of the Su-35 and Su-30, which have no thrust vectoring at all, so instead they have begun focusing on "pilot friendliness" factors such as better on-board processing/target prioritization, "cristal cockpits", ect. Either way, with the newest versions of the Archer, and the future AiM-9X when it comes out, the likelyhood of a gun knife fight is very unlikely.

Here's another video of an Su-37 (in russian) this one's a bit bigger, 1.8 megs, and if you look closely you can see it performing some maneuvers where it uses it's side to side thrust vectoring capability. Su-37 demonstration in Russian

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wardog @ May 23 2002,18:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">unless its missiles can scan through a very wide arc in a fraction of a second, then lock on and fire, what actual use is that maneouver?<span id='postcolor'> Have you heard of the Russian Helmet-mounted missile sight and the A-11, which itself has 3d thrust vectoring and a very wide angle seeker? Russian pilots actually fly with the trigger depressed when using this missile in a dogfight, so all they need to do is let go of the trigger button when they get a lock on an enemy plane.

I can see it now: "Sarge we're surrounded, what do we do?!" "Reboot Goddamnit!!!"

Well, this is a very clever and somewhat humorous analogy likening the Rebel Alliance to the Taliban and Al-Quaeda, but as USSoldier11B already pointed out, there is a slight difference between the Death Star and the WTC lol "O bin Wankanobi"