spooky lynx

Here are all three 'Russian' tanks. Spotted in Torez town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hew6bmufYk

Meanwhile some sources suppose that something very bad may happen on 14th July in Donbass. 1) Western journalists leave the area in masses 2) Ukr officials are recommended to relocate their families in other regions 3) Polish consulate suspends its work 4) Railway tickets are unavailable 5) Junta forces supposed to leave Karachun mountain positions and left all the roadblocks near Kramatorsk Some people suppose that WMD of some kind will be used against South-East. At the same time an urgent excercises of Ukr. NBC troops started and recruiters try to get more NBC specialists to NG and various new batallions.

"Russian tanks advancing" is just an apology of losing own machines to Donbass rebels who got them. Earlier South-East informants stated that three T-64's were captured near Lugansk. Now I see fairytale about three 'Russian' tanks entering. I don't believe in such coincidences. And I'm surprised that those junta propagandists told about only three(!) tanks. Why not a brigade or at least regiment? My imperialistic feelings are offended!:mad:

Looks like those jihadists have now some fancy things in their inventory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2BrRkScaBs

Almighty FSB spynet:D And to be seriously - I just googled it. The channel is clearly pro-Ukr as you may notice. That's definitely T-64 - just look at wheels that smaller than T-72 ones, ERA bricks places at different angles that Ajaya ones, IR searchlight on the left side of turret (T-72's one is on the right) and what differs it most of all - sound of boxer diesel engine. Compare any video with moving T-72 and this one and you'll see that it is clearly T-64. BTW Ukrs already start using T-72s again.

Yep, that's one of those tanks: If you look at this 'Russian' tank you'll see... T-64BV. Used by Ukrs. Three such tanks were captured by 'violent rebels' some days earlier. Where had I seen the same things?... Oh in 08.08.08, when coulmns of Georgian tanks advancing at Tskhinval were shown as Russian ones.

Oh please not that Mohilyanska Journalist school 'honest' project:D Look at the bottom of their site: This site was created with the support of the U.S. State Department through an educational partnership program.

I can translate what is said by cameraman in lifenews video: 00:08 - "Oh just right into the village..." 00:12 - "We need to move civilians from residential area" (on radio) 00:18 - "Yes we need to evacuate, need to evacuate" 00:48 - "It's like where we used to live" 00:56 - "The whole Semenovka is shelled" 01:00 - "They start to burn the village, ***, it will burn all night long" 01:10 - "Look they want to burn the village. Look what are they doing" Sure you may say it's all Putin's propaganda and fake filmed in studio, and I lie and write not translation but BS to make you believe Kremlin propaganda but I hear this words and from what I see at the video I don't have a reason not to believe it. So it's up to you to believe this video and me or not. BTW you may find plenty of photo/video evidence how Ukrainian military 'tries not to harm civilians' but much of them is in "gore/NSFW" category. I hope you can understand why. Edit: another video from Slaviansk showing use of those shells

Where's the lies in lifenews video I've posted? Indeed, shooting unguided rockets from jets, using all available artillery against civil infrastructure in Slaviansk is really try not to harm civilians... And shooting in civil cars, killing people too. FPDR

12-yers old weapon that was already exported since 2006 (maybe in Ukraine too) and used in Libya ans Syria? I would not name it super modern. Moreover I could not find any particular markings that could really show that Donbass fighters have Igla-S but not earlier Igla model (which is in Ukrainian army inventory since 1991). What else?

Damn! I wish I could have such Lego in my childhood...

Would you mind to show what super modern Russian weapons do Pro-Russian fighters have? That's not surprise if you find out how the majority of Ukrainian army is trained. Even Russian army at first Chechen war was better (right after economy collapse). And Taliban doesn't have much sponsors who can give them at least some MANPADs ant ATGMs. Their armament does not differ much from 80's mujaheeden. They fight with hi-end equipped enemy. So it's not surprise that poorly trained and motivated army equipped with late 80's - early 90's era gear suffers losses from highly motivated and at least the same way (or better) trained rebels with the same equipment. It's easy to shell civil blocks or ride against unarmed citizens but when it comes to serious battle with rival who has the same gear - UA army and various nazi and oligarch-sponsored batallions loses often. History with Galichina division is repeated. Edit: http://lifenews.ru/news/134892 Seems that NG used "Willy Pete" mines during recent night artillery strike at Slaviansk.

Please translate again:

Donbass citizens will be 'filtered' - Defence minister of Ukraine (in Russian/Ukrainian) Filtering and then deporting to other regions... Well... I won't comment it.

Yanuk: -friend of some oligarchy group -used lightly armed or even unarmed LEOs against rivals -agreed to perform reforms (constitutional etc) and made an agreement via European ministers with opposition -refused to sign treaty with EU Poroshenko: -oligarch himself -use all the forces available (including jets, heavy artillery and MLRS) against rivals -still refusing to sign treaty with EU -stated that Ukraine will never be federation and Ukrainian language must be the only state one Do you believe anything will change to the good side (for Ukraine and average Ukrainians)? ---------- Post added at 23:46 ---------- Previous post was at 23:32 ---------- Yes, they must run from the place where their language bacame one of the official (which hadn't been done all the 23 years of Ukrainian independence). Oh that bloody Russkies, how could they do such horrible thing and make three official languages (Russian, Ukrainian and Tatarian) in Crimea?! Stalin crimes you say? I'd remind you that according to martial law of WW2 years collaboration with the enemy, sabotage, desertion and signing to enemy armed forces was penalized with death. So what was better - to kill al those thousands of Tatar collaborators and supporters of Hitler for their crimes or move them to inner regions to prevent any harm from them at the front? So I'd say all those 'offended' Tatars, Chechens and other morons should praise Stalin and his order not simply judge according to martial law all those deserters and collaborators but save their lives and move them to the place where they won't do much harm to state. Read about amounts of desertions and collaboration with Nazis among Tatars and think how much people could been legally shot for their crimes. Plain law enforcement would result in real disaster for them.

It would be funny but IRL dozens of people who were no agree with it were murdered or tortured. Starting with Ivan Protsenko, civil activist of "For clean city" movement who tried to negotiate peacefully with maidanuts but was beaten hardly, so were his supporters.

Ukrs who think that ability to travel without visa to EU (and work there) equals to prosperity for Ukraine are much funnier. Thinking of EU as some wizard who will make Ukrainians live like Germans instantly is very funny.

Please read your own link, part "Preparations for war". Creating own parallel military structures, attempts to get control at TO arsenals, creating plans of attacking YPA and buying MANPADs and AT weapons from black market are truly peaceful things, indeed FPDR Then, read latter parts like "26 June 1991" - you can clearly see the same things were in Donbass when unarmed people tried to stop advancing military convoys. Slovenia was officially recognized on 15/01/92. So separatists shot down two helos of government army before clashes started. Peaceful way to seek for independence you say? If so, why are people of Donbass called terrorists for the same things? Should they wait for Svoboda nationalists to come and torture them or burn alive like in Odessa? Your naivity really astonishes me. Neither Catalonians nor Euskara (Basques?) suffered from arrivals of 'trains of friendship' full of nationalists armed with sticks, knives and guns. They were not attacked and trapped in the buildings which then were set afire. They were not threatened by advancing military columns and low-flying armed planes and choppers. Sure they should been waited for Ukrainian junta to deploy Grads and massive artillery attack like that on Tskhinval and hundreds of deaths... If you see that current regime is ruled by ultra-nationalists like Irina Farion then you don't need to be genius to realise that your life is in danger and it's better to make some preventive steps to secure it. You may dislike my arguments but I have to upset you: numerous wars were already started (Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Southern Sudan etc.).

Indeed peacefully, with seizing arsenals, using territorial defence detachments as military power and attacking central army convoys. I'd remind you that people of South-Eastern Ukraine started with peaceful demands for federalisation and rejection of maidan. Then they were told to shut up and carry on. Earlier these people demanded for using Russian language as second state (quite normal practice in 'free world'). Again they were told either to shut up or get out to Russia. You know, the patience is not infinite. Oh and mr. MistyRonin, how can you explain that Albanians, who arrived to Macedonia, started to demand various rights shortly and took weapons? And why noone supported Macedonia in their struggle with rebellion and separatism in the 'free world'? How do you think why noone supported Macedonian anti-terrorist operation?

So why Yugoslavian, then FR Yugoslavia and Macedonian borders became ridiculous? Can you answer, Vilas?

Again I ask you, guys, if you know nothing against anti-Dudayev opposition and de-facto civil war in Chechnya during 1992-1994 please don't mix it with others. Save your face.

Sure, expanding of military block to our borders, 'color revolutions' among our neighbours and agressions towards countries friendly to Russia don't cause Cold war... It's all about bad Russkies. "We see a piece of dust in the eye of rival but don't see a log in our own".

Let's take it as a bill for UNA-UNSO trips to Chechnya in 1994-1996 and 1999-early 2000s. Eye for an eye. Country that hadn't done anything to prevent the transferring of nationalist rebels to our territory (or even supported it), sent weapons and advicers to regimes hostile to us (and that advicers took part in the war against us) and threatened us with base in Crimea (no gas discount - no base agreement) does not deserve any respect from us.

It could be guarded by 'violent rebels' and fortified a bit. But still it is active working civil administration. And it was never transformed into any military or paramilitary HQ. 'Violent rebels' are not so dumb to place their HQ in such well known building that can be easily attacked by air. So that airstrike is nothing but war crime - using unguided rockets in populated area against unarmed civilians. Sure you may say something like "But in Chechnya...", yes in Chechnya the first thing to be done was establishing passageway for civilians who could leave the area before starting of battle. Here nothing had been done. Just rocket salvo from the Su-25 without any warning. None of 'violent rebels' were even hurt. Only empolyees of administration and people who walked nearby were murdered or wounded. Good start for new president... ---------- Post added at 07:14 ---------- Previous post was at 07:12 ---------- Read the quotes of some post-maidan Ukrainian officials and you will realise that this could be order but not the will of pilot. Edit: don't know is it true but if true - very interesting thing: 20 Israeli volunteers from Aliya batallion join South-Eastern 'violent rebels' to fight nazis. Later more volunteers can arrive. Brilliant, banderasts managed to join Russians, Jews and Chechens against them!

OGA (administration) is functional and active city and region administration at first with full number of employees working. Civil ones. It's not plain 'insurgent HQ'. Oh and could you give some source about AA weapons placed in it?