Sadico

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Don't forget the US had nuclear tipped air - air rockets, and the Russians used to dig canals with nuclear warheads back in the old days. Madness! <span id='postcolor'> Yeah, the AIR-2 Genie. I think the US also had nuclear SAM's, Nike missiles or something like that. Cold war madness... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And besides .... if your blowing up a typhoon with 40 ish nukes on board ..... seems reasonable, if push would have come to shove that is.<span id='postcolor'> More like 200 ish </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What worries me personally is those man portable "briefcase nukes" that went missing as the USSR was dismantled<span id='postcolor'> I've heard about that "briefcase nukes" before, but i'm not sure they are possible. Between 5 and 10 kg of plutonium, plus enough high explossives to make a supercritical mass, plus all the electronic gear, batteries and whatnot, all in a briefcase? More like a huge sports bag, i think...

Connery is the best, Pierce Brosnan is second.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nuclear depth charges? Ho ho ho! Those crazy Russians. I was aware they had nuclear torpedos though, that could really ruin your day. <span id='postcolor'> Yeah, those crazy Russians... I'm sure the U.S. Navy didn't carry nuclear depth charges and torpedoes...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cybrid @ Oct. 01 2002,15:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just saw it again, What does Wanker mean? I've never heard that word before i joined this forum<span id='postcolor'> I asked the same thing a few months ago The answer was: Hand to gland combat

I've got a good pic from a magazine, i'll scan it and upload it later.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Oct. 01 2002,14:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ Oct. 01 2002,13:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm blonde and I go for myself regularly  <span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That goes without saying. The best lover a man can have is already attached to his (muscular ) arm. <span id='postcolor'> Ughh, you wankers!!!!!  <span id='postcolor'> Who are you calling Wankers <span id='postcolor'> HAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA Placebo's Masturbatory OFP Squad, HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm blonde and I go for myself regularly <span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That goes without saying. The best lover a man can have is already attached to his (muscular ) arm. <span id='postcolor'> Ughh, you wankers!!!!!

Yep, but that extras are usualy worth downloading, aren't they?

GFX707 has updated his Bunker Pack 5 and it now includes a minigun!! Get it at "]http://www.fortress-ofp.com]

Hey, at least 3 of us requested the AN-94!! make something for the ruskies!!!

Nope, Ronaldo is no longer in Italy, he is now in Real Madrid with Zidane, Figo, Roberto Carlos...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> "Open Doors" command like on the new dodge challenger, edc. <span id='postcolor'> But you wouldn't be able to open them while in flight.

AN-94

Here in Spain we invented the guitar, chupa-chups, the mop, cigars, berets...

Were can i download the 1.46 version??

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Without any flight data you are merely speculating so it's useless to say "my country's airplane is better then yours" based on nothing but speculation.  <span id='postcolor'> Well, none of that aircraft has been designed in my country, so i'm completely objective about this  If you want, you can search for reports of the Su-37's performance in the Farnborough air show. Lot's of recognized experts (including aircraft designers, NATO fighter pilots, etc) wrote reports about it. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">However nobody has ever seen a F22 do any complex maneuvers nor does anyone have access to data on the flight characteristics of the F22 other then speed and thrust to weight ratios. <span id='postcolor'> Then using your own reasoning, i could say that the F-22 is be unable to do any complex maneuvers because i haven't seen it perform any. We have seen the Su-37 performing that impressive maneuvers that even aircraft designed specificaly to be ultra-maneuverable (X-29 FSW, X-31 with 3d thrust vectoring) can't do. The F-22 has been designed to be very maneuverable, but stealth is more important in the design than maneuverability. The X-31 would most likely kick it's ass in a dogfight. This is from the NASA Dryden Flight Research Center: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The X-31's flight-control system also went through five major software changes during its years at Dryden, but with the changes and modifications, the program became extremely successful. In addition to simply achieving controllable maneuvering flight at angles of attack up to 70 degrees, the aircraft clearly demonstrated the tactical advantage thrust-vectoring could give a fighter. Simulator experiments predicted that the X-31 would have a 3:1 kill ratio. In actual combat maneuvers against an F-18 fighter, however, the X-31 won approximately 30 dogfight engagements for every one it lost. It also demonstrated maneuvers no other aircraft was able to do, including one named after program originator Wolfgang Herbst. The "Herbst maneuver" is a rapid, 180-degree turn at an extremely high angle of attack, using the X-31's post-stall maneuverability characteristics. <span id='postcolor'> The X-31 is a smallish aircraft, with very little wing surface, but thrust vectoring enabled it to have a 30:1 success rate against the F/A-18. The Su-37 is a big fighter (over 30 tons), like the F-22. They both have huge wing surface, fly-by-wire controls, and extremely powerful engines. But the F-22 has been designed for stealth over maneuverability, and the sukhoi has been designed to be a world beater in dogfights. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think that you may all be getting the Su-37 mixed up with the S-37<span id='postcolor'> Nope, i know they are different aircraft. It would be interesting to see a S-37 with the Su-37's thrust vectoring engines, though. Forward swept wings and powerful 3d thrust vectoring engines combined in an aircraft with advanced fly-by-wire, the results could be impressive!

You can drop it from the C-17 Globemaster

Scary... 33 pounds of uranium is not enough to make a nuke, but still...

Yep, DKM mod is making a comanche. They have some renders of the model in their website.

France did the right thing saving that children. I'm not american, but thanks anyway. Now i'm gonna watch Zinedine Zidane play football

The Su-27 most likely can't out-turn a F-22, but i wasn't talking about the 27, i was talking about the Su-37. Take a look at this page: http://wmilitary.neurok.ru/su37/su37display.html There is only one aircraft in the world that can do that maneuvers, the Su-37. Lot's of parts of the F-22 project are classified, but experts can tell more or less accurately the performance of the aircraft without having access to that data. The only aircraft that can compare to the Su-37 is the X-31 prototype.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Sep. 28 2002,18:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">a king ? huh ? where ? DEATH TO THE KING !!!!!!!!!!!!<span id='postcolor'> Agreed

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RaptorAce @ Sep. 28 2002,17:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1st, No. Â No US planes were lost to enemy planes during all of Desert Shield and Desert Storm 2nd, the Su-37 is only used for show and hasnt (and as far as i know wont) be put into production. Â The Flanker more likely to go into production will be the Su-33 or Su-35 which doesnt have TV, plus with the F-22's advanced systems and stealth, it would probably kill the flanker if they were in a fight simply because it'd get into range before the flanker would see it. Â And yeah, that cobra maneuver is cool, but not really useful in a dogfight This was a reply to Sadico.<span id='postcolor'> Funny, i had read years ago that a F/A-18 was shot down by a Mig-25, but now i can't find any confirmation. Looks like it wasn't true. The Su-37 and Su-35 are not currently in production, and i'm sure they won't be in service with the Russian Air Force anytime soon (maybe never), but they have been offered for export. There is a Su-30 variant with 3d vectoring engines too, and i think it has been already sold to India. China bought Su-27's some years ago and is interested in buying the new variants. You are right though, the F-22 should be able to destroy the Sukhoi from long range, but we don't really know how stealthy it is. That cobra maneuver is only an example of the maneuvers that can be done with that aircraft, in a dogfight the 37 would out-turn the F-22 quite easily, and if you combine that with a reaward facing radar, a helmet mounted sight and the AA-11 missiles you have possibly the best dogfighter in the world.

Better make them realistic.

Wasn't an american F/A-18 the only plane that was shot down by an enemy fighter in Desert Storm (by a Mig-25, by the way)? Â By the way, the Su-37 with 3d vectoring engines can make maneuvers that a F-22 pilot can only dream (if you don't believe it, search the web, you should be able to find several videos).