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  1. JUst want to say - Resistance kicks ass, i haven't had so much fun in opf for ages.

    now the niggles (hopefully no one has pointed them out)

    23. It'd be pretty cool if vehicles didn't sink into the ground. My first impressions of opfr sucked because in cut scenes, stuff looked like it'd been half buried.

    24. Fix the mission bugs. I had to use that cheat to get past occupation for example sad.gif

    Otherwise, everything is a mssive improvement. the terrain especially kicks ass, it looks great, especially seeing tanks rocket down the bumpier slopes smile.gif bouncy bouncy biggrin.gif The missions kick ass too, and all the new stuff is cool. Hopefully one day they'll make the other islands like nogova (add the realistic terrain). Its the first game i haven't bought on pirate for ages and its well worth the money smile.gif


  2. This is the same with RPG's. I can understand why sabots don't have splash damage (try HEAT's) but you'd have thought rpg's would kill a few infantry if you fired into a group.

    On that occupation mission, where you see the big line of ruskies walking around the base, i fired an rpg dead center into the line and only 2 of them died sad.gif


  3. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (residuum @ July 09 2002,16:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Screenshots please!  Some of us don't have Resistance yet?<span id='postcolor'>

    I can't get screenshots because all my games are on a different computer sad.gif Trust though, it is there smile.gif i'm sure some opf sites will have some soon.

    When you get it, just hop in a chopper, fly up near those 2 mountains, and you can't miss them.


  4. Yesterday i was playing resistance and exploring a bit, and i found this wierd stonehenge/cult kind of stone arrangement. I can't remember the referance though. It's in the north west of the map. there are two big joining mountains, its in between them smile.gif

    btw - sorry if this has been spotted before, just thought i'd say tounge.gif


  5. I'm on this mission (i can't remember the name) and i believe i've finsihed it, but it won't end.

    You start having to take out a mansion type building, to provide a safe route for your tank support, then you move down to the base. I have 8 guys left, all standing in the base, every russian is dead, we have gone all over the place in the bmp 2, gone through the woods (quickly though) and we haven't been shot at since we killed the last dude coming from the first counter attack.

    I've tried this mission twice now, and in both time i was in the same situation and the mission didn't end.

    anyone else have this problem (in the objectives btw i have the 1st objective done, second not done, 3rd done and the 4th not done).

    Please take my word that there are no people hiding behind walls on behind bushes on the surrounding hills.


  6. For a long time now i've been noticing my opf roads are naffed up. They seem ok, but then they get the occasional green triangle flickering. This has got much worse since i got resistance. Anyone know what is going on and how i can fix it?

    I'm using a 64mb Geforce 2. Using 1064x768 (or whatever that one is), D3D, with lots of graphics details turned up high. Visual quality is high but not the max, and the LOD's are the defaults


  7. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (second_draw @ June 29 2002,11:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MDRZulu @ June 29 2002,07:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">G'day mate and here we have the eva' so illusive alliga....  BY CRIKEY    it's a snake!  Isn't she a beautay!  I have to be eva' so quiet or the beautiful bloke will become incrediblay scared and run away.  Ah yes.  Look at this little ripper!  The world isnt chop-a-block with these creatures, so its very rare to see one.  I keep my distance though, as this little ripper packs a heck-of-a wallop!<span id='postcolor'>

    I have three things to say:

    1) You are a sad sad person

    2) Ever heard of the Crocodile hunter movies? Everyone knows they suck? I think you all get the picture...

    3)Do not judge an australian speech according to this lunatics excessive jargon. Sure some ppl use jargon alot but this is extreme.<span id='postcolor'>

    I personally found that to be a great example of how funny the show is  biggrin.gif not that his accents or slang is funny, i just read that and visualised the show and how he acts, and i smiled about it smile.gif Like everyone else i think its funny how worked up he gets and how crazy he is biggrin.gif


  8. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (foxer @ June 29 2002,11:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ruud van Nistelrooy @ June 29 2002,11:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (foxer @ June 29 2002,11:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ruud van Nistelrooy-Your opinion is stupid. smile.gif I think you are too far anti-american to think of a fair opinion.<span id='postcolor'>

    anyone who looks awkwardly in the direction of america these days is anti american....

    I'm not anti american, i just don't like the way your government handles situations like China/Taiwan etc ...<span id='postcolor'>

    i just don't like the way your government handles situations like China/Taiwan etc ...

    Do you have a better idea ?  

    anyone who looks awkwardly in the direction of america these days is anti american....

    I don't think soo,i mean if you really going bash U.s. about something ,Why won't you bash them about an american civilian in military jail and a french civilian in an american court.

    About china/u.s. the plane..

    It's like this russia and america play these games for 50 so years and china doesn't know how to play the game.Also why aren't you bitching about china spying on USA ? Maybe because it's ok to do whatever to USA ,but if usa tries to spy on anyone they are wrong and there should be a protest,and likes not forget to add them sanctions.Because we all know the usa is the big gaint evil guy on the block just picking on everyone else.

    Also what bugs me is your post about bombing cities,How do you think the afghanistan conflict/war is going ? I say pretty damn good.<span id='postcolor'>

    I don't care if China spies on america and vice versa as in having spies in each others countries. Its just the USA are the ones flying aircraft about the place. I think they do this because they want China to attack them. I think this is exactly what the US are doing in Iraq - they fly planes around, begging to be shot down, so that when they do they can justify going in and saving the world. If they're gonna spy, they should at least have some subtlety about it. I can see this spy plane problem escalating and china getting pretty pissed off about it.

    Afghanistan is going good but america still bombs the odd red cross building or groups of british tanks in these latest of conflicts.

    I think america does basically say to nations like china: ''Hey look, we're the most powerful nation in the world, so if you wanna camplain about us sending planes about the place and getting involved in all your affairs, then you can fuck right off, because we could fucking crush you're pathetic, poor, economically underdeveloped, laughable compared to america nation like dogs''. Obviously they do this a bit more quietly

    Plus, i'd just like to add - just because i don't like the way America treats other countries in the world doesn't mean i hate american civilians or america in general. You just assume that i do because it allows you to whinge about everyone hating america because they are the bestest nation in the world.


  9. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (foxer @ June 29 2002,11:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ruud van Nistelrooy-Your opinion is stupid. smile.gif I think you are too far anti-american to think of a fair opinion.<span id='postcolor'>

    anyone who looks awkwardly in the direction of america these days is anti american....

    I'm not anti american, i just don't like the way your government handles situations like China/Taiwan etc ...


  10. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ June 29 2002,03:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Cloney @ June 29 2002,01:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ruud van Nistelrooy @ June 29 2002,01:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm pretty sure if the US spotted chinese spy planes flying over washington DC they'd start crying and fussing about it, possibly starting WW3 in the process.

    This is just a case of Americans thinking the world needs them to spy on China since they are the protectors of the universe etc... Of course, they just ignorantly make things worse and increase the risk of the next world war by doing the shit they do. So they have spy planes over China, and all of a sudden a chinese plane flies close to them and the US are on red alert. Dumbasses.<span id='postcolor'>

    Which country will you come running to when yours is being overrun by 2 million screaming Chinamen?

    Thats What I thought...

    Case Closed. I'm tired of this Anti-American shit some of International people have drilled into their minds.<span id='postcolor'>

    Chinaman?

    it's chinese... tounge.gif

    anyway, US planes are flying out side of the territory of China. what was that like 12 or more miles away? so it's open water. they can shoot each other to death and legally it's ok since it's open waters.

    ofcourse, those who are now related would get into 3rd world war, but considering what humans seen in first half of 20th centruy, no one wants to go through that again.

    and speaking of anti-US rhetoric, just let thme do it. when they get run over by china, they'll know what the benefit of having america as ally is.<span id='postcolor'>

    lol, please tell me what the US would do about 2 million screaming chinese? we all know they are too poncy to send in troops first, so there'll be a 5 month wait for the bombers to kill 1.5 million of them, and by that time they'll be in europe, where as always, the yanks will be dropping bombs into London/Paris/Berlin residential areas.

    I think after a while we'd be telling your all powerful army (bombers, with a big army in america) to fuck off and stop killing us.

    besides, its America that is to blame if any such situation comes up anyway, like i said.

    Get your heads out your arses. I doubt very much America could take on china that easily. And i also think China will be the next superpower as its economy develops. Yanks are just in denial of this.


  11. I'm pretty sure if the US spotted chinese spy planes flying over washington DC they'd start crying and fussing about it, possibly starting WW3 in the process.

    This is just a case of Americans thinking the world needs them to spy on China since they are the protectors of the universe etc... Of course, they just ignorantly make things worse and increase the risk of the next world war by doing the shit they do. So they have spy planes over China, and all of a sudden a chinese plane flies close to them and the US are on red alert. Dumbasses.


  12. Doesn't look like a real baby confused.gif besides, its not like everyone didn't know that the average Palestinian bloke would be tremendously happy to send his daughter/son into isreal with bombs strapped to them, given that the palestinians are sick fucks anyway. It wouldn't suprise me if a palestinian women walked into a isreali place with her palestinian baby in a pram....


  13. suppose i'm the only person who hasn't yet completed the last mission then biggrin.gif Personally, seeing all those cavalry charging at my army send me into a morale deficiancy and as a result my tactics fuck up smile.gif

    Methinks this will be the best rts for the next few years,. just like shogun smile.gif

    The best bit about the game is probably bombarding the walls, and having the walls fall on top of enemy troops biggrin.gif mass death or what biggrin.gif


  14. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Pesonally I don't think so. The Americans have used the B-1/B-2 in combat operations and they cost a whole lot more than the F-22.<span id='postcolor'>

    True, but it is highly likely those B1/B2's will be doing the same job as the Submarines, Crusiers etc... - firing cruise missles to destroy aircraft on the ground. Threat to B1/B2 - minimal.


  15. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ June 27 2002,23:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My Mum has always been a religious person, having a strong faith and being a regular church goer etc. After having my sister and myself her health suffered until she had a couple of heart attacks, then in 1993 my Dad was killed in an accident, there is only one thing that kept my Mum alive after that and it was her faith. My Dad was her cornerstone, her foundation, she relied on him for everything, before my Dad died she'd never even signed a check before. She came through that, she's still with us, still strong, still healthy, still believing, I don't know what is up there watching over us but I know that my Mum's faith in it is the reason I have one parent to day and not none.

    Also I look at it this way, yes I believe in God and Heaven and such things, people want to put me down for things like that, tell me I'm stupid or whatever, well I think of it this way, for the 21 years of my life that my Dad was around he was probably the most important person in my life, I still miss him today at 29 as I did the day he died, and yet people want to turn around and tell me I'm wrong and stupid for believing or hoping that somehow, somewhere my Dad's spirit and soul is still alive somewhere, whether in heaven, whether some other kind of further subconscious, well all I can say to those people who try to mock the thought of our loved ones still existing somewhere is fuck you smile.gif

    (For the record this isn't aimed at any single person who has posted in this thread, occasionally I just like a lil rant to prove that I am indeed after all human)

    And remember tears make you stronger.<span id='postcolor'>

    I know that is a sensitive issue, but thats a great example of just how much religion is a plague to the world. You mum lives in terror of going to hell or getting sick with no support from god... She could never dream of losing her faith simply because she is shit scared to do it, she just can't, even if god in all his glory seems to have taken a massive dump on her life.

    I wouldn't want to live in complete and utter fear of a god who doesn't exist, personally i can only see that as a rubbish life.


  16. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ale2999 @ June 28 2002,02:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Shabadu @ June 27 2002,10:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ale2999 @ June 27 2002,10:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">God lives and rules in MY life  biggrin.gif  let him rule in yours too!<span id='postcolor'>

    Completely and utterly insane. confused.gif

    Unless you was joking of course.<span id='postcolor'>

    well I was not joking and I am not insane. I think that I am a really rational person. To me it just doesnt make sense that life has no meaning and that we live by chance......

    I am not joking but God saved me, he healed me and did miracles in my life. Let me share this one with u. My parents are from nigeria but as we lived in italy we went there on vacation every 1nce in awhile. When I went there I got celebral malaria and I went into a coma. (This is Nigeria we r talking about remember). My dad told me that the overheard the doctor talking with the nurse saying that I was done. My mum gathered many and many ppl to pray for my healing and I got healed. If this happened in a 1st world country I would have thought that medicine saved me, but I know that God did. It was in coma for 4 days btw, so I wasnt sleeping or anything. Untill u c God in action u might not understand, but I know that God will send in ur way someone who can set the example for you all smile.gif<span id='postcolor'>

    So god will rescue one bloke from disease, but he won't cure all those millions upon millions of people with cancer/aids or whatever.

    Religion makes people feel special, and in order to maintain this feeling that you are indeed above other people (because god loves you) you dedicate your life to the cult, hence making your life worse (since you won't do anything you feel will make god hate you - which is pretty much everything). I mean, if was god, and some dude dedicated his life to him and payed for my messengers (vicars, popes etc...) ivory backscratchers i wouldn't send that dude to hell just because he thought of stealing a pen from work.

    btw - let me share this one with you. I once had a tooth ache, a really, really bad tooth ache. My mum, being a ex-dentist, told me i would definatly need to see a dentist about it to get it sorted out. I didn't see a dentist. In fact, the whole thing was gone in under 2 days. Did god get rid of my toothache? obviously he did because my mum in all her wisdom said i HAD to go the dentist. Actually, i didn't even consider god cured me, in fact, the thought never even came close to entering my mind. Simply because i think this god idea is a load of bollox. Despite the fact i had a 'miraculous' recovery from my toothache.


  17. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The F-22 is the most expensive fighter plane ever, but it does what it supposed to do, rule the skies untouched.

    <span id='postcolor'>

    True, it will, but only because all the enemy aircraft would've been destroyed by Gunships and cruise missles way before the F-22 ever get sent within 200 km of the danger zone (due to high cost they'll probably send in ''lesser'' fighters to do all the dirty work.

    I visualise the F-22 like the fat general of the skies. It looks good with all its merits and medals, and will be the one to take all the credit in the end. But there will be little appreciation for all the other fighters who cleared out the danger zone and rolled out the red carpet. And why? because the F-22 is on higher pay and looks more classy.

    The F-22 can and will dominate the skies, but its unlikely it'll fire off many BVR Missles to do it. \I doubt very much it'll even take on the formidable SU's. The thing is too damm expensive to risk them like that.


  18. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ June 27 2002,22:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why would I? And sience is a better god? God has awnsered prayers,and when God heels ya He does the best job. God has done alot more than science ever will, i.e. creating world and every thing in it. God will always awnser prayers, He may say no but He wills till awnser them. There is one prayer God will never say no too and that is the prayer of salvation!<span id='postcolor'>

    I once prayed to god that Man Utd would win the Premiership this year. They didn't, in fact they came third. I'm pretty sure quite a few people have prayed for world peace. I'm also sure people prayed there wouldn't be a second big brother, and i'm pretty sure people pray constantly for food, and cures for disease.

    If you think about - 'God' has performed fuck all miracles. Obviously, he turned water into wine, and he made that river split in two so he cross or something, but, that is probably a load of bollox (unless you believe the sad group of people who wrote the bible).

    Science has done mirculous things - cloning, GM foods, Nuclear Bombs, disease cures (how many times has god cured a disease for us? eh?) and etc... I mean, you may think some of these suck, but hey, i'd rather science came up for a cure for cancer rather than just giving some bloke the power touch people up and say they have been cured of their various problems, which is the kind of miracle god seems to like to give people. The conclusion of this - god, if he exists, does make miracles, but they completly suck ass compared to the miricales science produces.

    Btw - science has also come up with a very believable and feasible explantaion for the creation of various things in space. Myabe not how life was created, but hey, i'd rather wait for that one than believe that all life was derived from two humans ripped from one of gods ribs confused.gif

    The bible doesn't really say how the universe was created, rather it just gives a pretty pathetic and laughable explanation saying it was all created through magic confused.gif


  19. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (foxer @ June 27 2002,21:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The only use for a F-22 is against bigger nations anyway.

    How do you know bigger nations won't ? I think this is technology to stay ahead of everyone,soo bigger nation,smaller nation will know that america still has big military/very high tech military.So they won't do somethig stupid.Like take over countries(unless they are living in africa).

    Do you know the f-117 was made in the 1970s ? Crazy isn't it ? We didn't even know about it until the gulf war.Soo i wonder what other planes they are hiding from us and only will bring it out in the next big war.<span id='postcolor'>

    Well, look at all the newest technology the yanks are bringing out - stealth fighters, stelth bombers, stealth ships, stealth tanks, stealth gunships, stealth troops, stealth burgens, stealth hats, stealth shoe laces....

    i'd imagine it'd be yet another overly elaborate stealth thing with better missles. Expect to see them bombing Iraqi residential areas in 2004, where they can really show off just how technologically superior they are, and how easily they can elude primative iraqi radar. Just like the gulf war really.

    It is gonna be really funny when someone finds a sure fire way of detecting stealth aircraft, or of course when one of them gets shot down by an evil farmer brandishing a musket or something.

    Then again, it's also something to think about - would the yanks send 1 billion dollars (5 f-22's) worth of hardware into the gulf, or anywhere that they risk getting shot down?

    And after all, they could just get shot to shit on the ground, or an aircraft carrier could hit a WW2 mine etc... etc... (insert all the ways you can think of destroying an F-22 no matter how bloody stealthy it is, there are a few of them).

    Its not like America needs F-22 just to scare small/big nations. Thats what nuclear weapons do wink.gif and also the existing big fuck off most powerful army in the world does this pretty well. Its not like the Al-queda will be shitting themselves because the yanks are sending F-22's against them confused.gif


  20. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (billytran @ June 27 2002,17:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wow.gif4--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ruud van Nistelrooy @ June 27 2002,10wow.gif4)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, the F-22 is pretty useless. All military airforces are going for the whole destroy aircraft while they are on the ground type of thing. NATO has great air power to do this incredibly successfully. The F-22 in itself is strictly air to air. It does have air to ground capability, but, its in no way better than an F-15 at taking out ground targets.<span id='postcolor'>

    It's no good to make one jet to do everything.  That makes for lots of sacrafices and you never get exactly what you want.  The F-22 is our next generation air dominator, and the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is our air to ground fighter.  The F-35 can do air to air, but it's optimized for air to ground.  F-22 is not meant to be a real air to ground fighter.<span id='postcolor'>

    The F-22 is just eye candy. Given the tactics of NATO - to destroy enemy aircraft way before they can even take-off - makes them a mere convenience.The JSF is a great piece of kit - and ultimatly will be more useful. The NATO military has Artillery, Bombers, Gunships, Cruise missles... all to destroy enemy aircraft on the ground - the safest place to hit a fighter. So what is the point of having F-22's if another fighter, at about a 6th of the price, can take on all those *sarcasm* incredibly nasty iraqi Mig-21's as well as destroy ground targets?

    The only use for a F-22 is against bigger nations anyway. It seems we're just fighting middle eastern and asian countries - in these cases F-15's, 16's and 18's do the job just fine. The eurofighter as well will be ample to take on any Russian made equipment as well.

    The fact is, the F-22 may be the snazziest piece of kit the USA have ever produced, but the fact is it is a complete waste of 100-200million dollars, given that it doesn't really fit into NATO tactics, and that there is still no competition in the world for a good ol' F-15 (considering the sukhois haven't been mass produced really). We all know the USA squander money on pointless shite, but the fact remains, it would be more effective and efficient to buy 6 F-15's for 200million rather than a single F-22. The F-22 lacks the flexibility to justify its cost.

    It is, quite simply, utterly useless. The JSF isn't, and i think everyone would be wise to invest in these rather than the overrated F-22.


  21. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpetsnazWarriorX @ June 27 2002,02:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Having recently looked into the 'stealth' aircraft of the present and past generations of military aviation, I was left openly wondering what is THE best air-superiority fighter aircraft out there today. Eurofighter? Gripen? F-15? You name 'em, I listen  wink.gif<span id='postcolor'>

    Well, i dunno where this thread has gone since, but i like to study the odd poiece of military hardware.

    All yanks will say that the F-22 is the god of all fighters, and, lets face it, it is, probably no aircraft can go toe to toe with an F-22.

    Well, the F-22 is pretty useless. All military airforces are going for the whole destroy aircraft while they are on the ground type of thing. NATO has great air power to do this incredibly successfully. The F-22 in itself is strictly air to air. It does have air to ground capability, but, its in no way better than an F-15 at taking out ground targets.

    The conclusion - the F-22 will be 200million dollar flying eye candy. As always, the daft yanks will build thousands of them anyway simply because it looks pretty good, but the fact remains it will probably never be used for its intended purpose - to shoot down enemy aircraft in the air. Even then it is overkill, F-15 and F-16's can still do that job very effectivly. Unless the US declare war on China, Europe, Russia - a force that can actually retaliate with large numbers of fighters - the F-22 is, in two words, fucking useless, and also a waste of money. As with much yank equipment, i think it was just designed to show the world that the yanks are better at making fighters than everyone else, because it doesn't really serve any other purpose that older aircraft do not.

    Plus, people have been debating the effectiveness of stealth for ages, it is after all, pretty easy to detect them so long as you know what you're doing and you have specialised equipment.

    Most combat will be done BVR from now on, if there ever will be combat air to air between fighters again. As such, i think all ofd these aircraft are pretty similar, the F-22 has its stealth, which gives it an advantage, but its debatable how big an advantage it is. I think its the russians who lead the way it fucking up stealth, i read somewhere they're working on radar that goes after heat signitures and stuff really effectivly.

    My conclusion - all these next generation fighters are pretty much the same - the F-22 wins the top trumps contest for being stealthy, but thats cancelled out because it costs 3 times more than a SU-30 or eurofighter.

    The Sukhoi series gets muchos extra points for flexibility (Air to Air, BVR, Dogfighting, AWACs, dedicated Air to Ground....). The eurofighter has some mean BVR weapons though.

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