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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @ July 29 2002,06:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ruud van Nistelrooy @ July 28 2002,14:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Boondock Saints - i watched this about 5 years ago on very late night sky, and it was on loast night again very late. It's about these two irish brothers in New York, they're like a good version of the IRA in that they just go around killing people they deem evil, such as Mafia guys, Drug Dealers and pimps, with the help of this Italian Mafia package boy who is a complete fuck up. During their killing spree they are being tracked by a very funny police guy, played by Willem Defoe, who in the end realises that he wants to help these irishmen. Its really cool because they organise the hits, then you see them right before they do it, but then, it shifts like 5 hours ahead when the police are there and you're looking at the crime scene and Defoe goes through his analysis. While he does it you see the action, and the action is wicked. It's not amazingly realistic, but there a lot of guys in balaclava's shooting people with dual berretas, which is always a good thing. Not only that but theres this italian mob boss who says the best pissed off italian mobster thing ever. And to top it all off, it has Billy Connoly as as this hitman who is mental, and he's sent to kill the irishmen (great firefight involving Connoly with 6 guns strapped to his chest), but in the end he realises he is in fact their father or something, and they join forces and go about killing bad guys. The acting in this is amazing, it also has a few pornstars in it (like that short fat guy with the beard who shows up everywhere). The action is top notch, the acting is top notch, the laughs are top notch and it generally kicks ass. You also get to see a (homosexual) willem defoe cross dressing and begging a fat italian guy to fuck him before shooting him. I recommend everyone see's this movie cos it kicks ass<span id='postcolor'>
Boondock Saints is one of the best movies I've ever seen!
"I can't believe its fucking happened!"
"Is it dead?" Â
I want to get it on DVD but can't find it anywhere! Â
Another most underrated movie is Alien 3, I reckon its the best one in the series!<span id='postcolor'>
lol, i saw it on dvd on amazon
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i suck at maxis games solely because no matter what i do i caqn't get commercial zones to develop. It sucks, i could have a massive city full of house and factories, but then acres and acres of blue land or abandoned buildings. I swear its a bug
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They all sound like wwf wrestlers, which is always a bad thing
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ July 28 2002,14:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How could you have seen it 5 years ago since it was released in 1999?
<span id='postcolor'>ahhh wait, my bad, well, i saw it ages ago anyway
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Today we live in a world where all you have to do is chuck in a female power icon or something that's ''like, soooo gross'' for films to rake in billions, despite the fact that the whole thing has been done before and the entire movie was naff, but i was thinking about films that are majorly underrated. Films that are 10 times better than the whole ''I'm a girl and i'm on top'' thing that is going on. Well, i thought i'd make a tribute to in my opinion a film that should've gained massive success but didn't because its fairly low budget -
The Boondock Saints - i watched this about 5 years ago on very late night sky, and it was on loast night again very late. It's about these two irish brothers in New York, they're like a good version of the IRA in that they just go around killing people they deem evil, such as Mafia guys, Drug Dealers and pimps, with the help of this Italian Mafia package boy who is a complete fuck up. During their killing spree they are being tracked by a very funny police guy, played by Willem Defoe, who in the end realises that he wants to help these irishmen. Its really cool because they organise the hits, then you see them right before they do it, but then, it shifts like 5 hours ahead when the police are there and you're looking at the crime scene and Defoe goes through his analysis. While he does it you see the action, and the action is wicked. It's not amazingly realistic, but there a lot of guys in balaclava's shooting people with dual berretas, which is always a good thing. Not only that but theres this italian mob boss who says the best pissed off italian mobster thing ever. And to top it all off, it has Billy Connoly as as this hitman who is mental, and he's sent to kill the irishmen (great firefight involving Connoly with 6 guns strapped to his chest), but in the end he realises he is in fact their father or something, and they join forces and go about killing bad guys. The acting in this is amazing, it also has a few pornstars in it (like that short fat guy with the beard who shows up everywhere). The action is top notch, the acting is top notch, the laughs are top notch and it generally kicks ass. You also get to see a (homosexual) willem defoe cross dressing and begging a fat italian guy to fuck him before shooting him. I recommend everyone see's this movie cos it kicks ass
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doesn't look like it killed 70 odd people, looks like it crashed in the middle of a field with no one in the direct vicinity
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ July 27 2002,20:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But Bart!!! With Ten Thousand Dollars we'd be Millionaires!!! <span id='postcolor'> LOL! I just watched that episode!<span id='postcolor'>
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hit_Sqd_Maximus @ July 27 2002,20:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ruud van Nistelrooy @ July 27 2002,19:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Who cares if america's army is better, that doesn't mean anything because realistically, america wouldn't take on any remotly powerful country in a toe to toe battle would they?<span id='postcolor'>
If the US had to take on a powerful country, they would. But why waste the money and resources? if they absolutely must take on russia, I dont think the Russians would stand a chance in the long run.<span id='postcolor'>
They wouldn't touch russia, not just because of the nuclear threat, but because its a developing country and the US would love to exploit it economically and get a hold of its various resources and stuff. If the US actually invaded Russia they'd lose too much equipment and wouldn't be able to hold the place, plus they'd need shedloads of help from Europe which means the whole of NATO would be dragged into something that could potentially lead to major european cities being attacked by the russians, while america wouldn't have to deal with that. Politically america wouldn't touch Russia, but if they ever did, i doubt they'd find it easy, and by doing so would risk a lot of american lives (imagine if there was some kind of unholy alliance between the russians, chinese and various Terrorists groups - would america be so willing to take on countries that could be a major, major help to a lot of people who hate america? eg Osama). Even getting a substantial enough force in russia would probably give the americans a reason enough to ditch the idea, because Russia have some of the best air defense systems in the world, you can't just go in a drop bombs onto their orphanages and hospitals because they'll easily fuck up bombers. Russia has ICBM's, a large airforce and a few subs putting carrier groups under immediate threat (and exactly how can america get air dominance without carrier groups?), and then, even if america does come out on top they'll still risk nuclear annihilation, some tooled up terrorists and massive instability in asia and europe, plus a completly fucked up military with 200 million dollar jet fighters to be replaced, american casaulities would likely be so high that the public will want out of the war so bush wouldn't even consider it if it put his position at risk.
Germany and Britain had the most powerful armies in the world once, then one big war came about and now they don't have very big armies at all. Americans are so arrogent and so power crazy i doubt they'd even consider losing their method of maintaining all kinds of power over the world in a single war. America without an army would mean more problems for america, like not being able to prevent terrorism, protect economic interestes and of course the massive cost of replacing all the overly expensive and elaborate equipment (that is if they actually can afford to produce all the fighter jets, subs, troops, tanks, nimitz' etc... who knows, maybe if this ever does happen we'll see the americans with 'piece of shit' military hardware just like the russians have)
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hit_Sqd_Maximus @ July 27 2002,20:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ruud van Nistelrooy @ July 27 2002,19:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Who cares if america's army is better, that doesn't mean anything because realistically, america wouldn't take on any remotly powerful country in a toe to toe battle would they?<span id='postcolor'>
If the US had to take on a powerful country, they would. But why waste the money and resources? if they absolutely must take on russia, I dont think the Russians would stand a chance in the long run.<span id='postcolor'>
They wouldn't touch russia, not just because of the nuclear threat, but because its a developing country and the US would love to exploit it economically and get a hold of its various resources and stuff. If the US actually invaded Russia they'd lose too much equipment and wouldn't be able to hold the place, plus they'd need shedloads of help from Europe which means the whole of NATO would be dragged into something that could potentially lead to major european cities being attacked by the russians, while america wouldn't have to deal with that. Politically america wouldn't touch Russia, but if they ever did, i doubt they'd find it easy, and by doing so would risk a lot of american lives (imagine if there was some kind of unholy alliance between the russians, chinese and various Terrorists groups - would america be so willing to take on countries that could be a major, major help to a lot of people who hate america? eg Osama). Even getting a substantial enough force in russia would probably give the americans a reason enough to ditch the idea, because Russia have some of the best air defense systems in the world, you can't just go in a drop bombs onto their orphanages and hospitals because they'll easily fuck up bombers. Russia has ICBM's, a large airforce and a few subs putting carrier groups under immediate threat (and exactly how can america get air dominance without carrier groups?), and then, even if america does come out on top they'll still risk nuclear annihilation, some tooled up terrorists and massive instability in asia and europe, plus a completly fucked up military with 200 million dollar jet fighters to be replaced, american casaulities would likely be so high that the public will want out of the war so bush wouldn't even consider it if it put his position at risk.
Germany and Britain had the most powerful armies in the world once, then one big war came about and now they don't have very big armies at all. Americans are so arrogent and so power crazy i doubt they'd even consider losing their method of maintaining all kinds of power over the world in a single war. America without an army would mean more problems for america, like not being able to prevent terrorism, protect economic interestes and of course the massive cost of replacing all the overly expensive and elaborate equipment (that is if they actually can afford to produce all the fighter jets, subs, troops, tanks, nimitz' etc... who knows, maybe if this ever does happen we'll see the americans with 'piece of shit' military hardware just like the russians have)
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I bet this girl in school that she could punch me in the nose as hard as she could without making my eyes water. She did
she also gave me a nosebleed and my eyes didn't just water, i was crying (this was when i was 8). -
MY right big toe is something that has been worrying me. The skin down the side of the nail became all wierd so i ripped it off and there is now a huge build up between the nail and skin of blood and pus, and my whole toe has swollen up and gone kind of purple. It feels kind of like there is no circulation and that whole toe goes numb sometimes. I put some new socks on and the would filled with fluff, and when i pulled it all out my foot went to sleep (when it goes all tingly). I squeezed my toe and it was bleeding pus and blood for the next 30 mins
It now hurts to walk, and about 40 mins ago i stubbed my toe on the door and i was almost crying, and now still i have some major throbbing pain. It isn't an ingrown toenail either (or so my dad says). Is this something to worry about? -
Russia's military may not be as good as america's, but keep in mind america's military is only good to the general public because every now and again we see it doing the business against poverty stricken countries. Yes, witness the glorious might of the US army as it takes on a 60 year old airforce consisting of 12, yes 12 Afghan spitfires and a hijacked jumbo jet with a machine gun in the cockpit, as well as a tank force that has like, 4 nicked WW1 tanks. Result - wow!! we like, totally killed all the afghans, our army must be the best the world, damm, god bless america. The only reason the american army is soooo amazing is because all the other most powerful armies in the world got wiped out in WW2. Its very well known, or should be, that Russia produced technology that would take on anything american, but didn't see the light of day due to various funding problems. Today, they have some solid equipment, some amazing equipment, and some naff equipment. America has loads of quality equipment, but most of this is useless, just there to act as a funds sponge. Like, why do you need an F-22 when NATO tactics involve taking out all aircraft on the ground? or when the only people america will ever realistically fight will be countries which no one has ever heard of until they get blamed for something, because, america can't realistically take on Russia even though their army is being dumped on, like it or not. Russian equipment does its job - provide a simple, cheap solution, while also providing quality if the money is there, that will be more than able to take on a large proportion of the worlds armies.
Who cares if america's army is better, that doesn't mean anything because realistically, america wouldn't take on any remotly powerful country in a toe to toe battle would they?
Vietnam was a complete failure by the american army, accept this rather than going ''well, russia did worse in Afghanistan''. I mean, what does it matter? Apparently russia's army is a piece of shit anyway while america's is capable of destroying the entire universe. Therefore - Afghanistan was like, Russia getting raped by 1 guy, america's was a massive gang bang with about 20 convicts all taking turns
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Russia's military may not be as good as america's, but keep in mind america's military is only good to the general public because every now and again we see it doing the business against poverty stricken countries. Yes, witness the glorious might of the US army as it takes on a 60 year old airforce consisting of 12, yes 12 Afghan spitfires and a hijacked jumbo jet with a machine gun in the cockpit, as well as a tank force that has like, 4 nicked WW1 tanks. Result - wow!! we like, totally killed all the afghans, our army must be the best the world, damm, god bless america. The only reason the american army is soooo amazing is because all the other most powerful armies in the world got wiped out in WW2. Its very well known, or should be, that Russia produced technology that would take on anything american, but didn't see the light of day due to various funding problems. Today, they have some solid equipment, some amazing equipment, and some naff equipment. America has loads of quality equipment, but most of this is useless, just there to act as a funds sponge. Like, why do you need an F-22 when NATO tactics involve taking out all aircraft on the ground? or when the only people america will ever realistically fight will be countries which no one has ever heard of until they get blamed for something, because, america can't realistically take on Russia even though their army is being dumped on, like it or not. Russian equipment does its job - provide a simple, cheap solution, while also providing quality if the money is there, that will be more than able to take on a large proportion of the worlds armies.
Who cares if america's army is better, that doesn't mean anything because realistically, america wouldn't take on any remotly powerful country in a toe to toe battle would they?
Vietnam was a complete failure by the american army, accept this rather than going ''well, russia did worse in Afghanistan''. I mean, what does it matter? Apparently russia's army is a piece of shit anyway while america's is capable of destroying the entire universe. Therefore - Afghanistan was like, Russia getting raped by 1 guy, america's was a massive gang bang with about 20 convicts all taking turns
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Benze @ July 26 2002,02:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mine didn't kill the ammo truck. Better discipline? Â
Actually, I think if you kill the driver of the ammo truck they won't blow it up. What I did, was when the T72 came into view, shot it once with an RPG. Reload quick. Shoot the BMP. Reload. Shoot the troop truck. The FIRST Ural. You just got about 20 kills right there. The other soldiers shoot the T72 and finish it. Order any machine gunners you have to fire upon the Ural Ammo, and if you are lucky, the driver will be killed. Your other soldiers will take care of any spare troops. Take the truck and drive it off with your guys trailing you. Park the Ural Ammo in the woods out of sight. Take a drugunov, or a regular rifle if you arn't good with druggys. The squad is only like 6-7 people. They are on a hill where you ambushed them. Kill, em, drive the truck over, and pick up anything important (machine guns, pistols, and RPGs).<span id='postcolor'>
I played that mission a few times, sometimes they'd kill the trucks, sometimes they didn't
seems like a bug to me. It sucks, on that mission where you gotta go steal the tanks, we take out all the enemy, i order my men to nick some weapons to take home, and what do they do? destroy the frigging empty tanks. sometimes tho they don't. seems i'm gonna have to experiment with these commands 
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Benze @ July 26 2002,02:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">By the way, on keeping weapons, is it possible to pick up NVGs and give them to your squad, ie, put them in a truck? You can do that with binoculars, but what about NVGs? They seem kinda useless to a human, but to the comp they are great.<span id='postcolor'>
as for NVG's, i waited until that mission where you get the supplies at night from the US. I got a pair for the crates, used them to take out all the enemy with a M-21, and then spent age making sure my men nicked NVG's from all the dead enemies. I also got the truck back to base safely, but after that mission my men always had NVG goggles
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Benze @ July 26 2002,02:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Lol, great story. I always retry if any of my guys die. I'm going to try to keep a whole squad with quality weapons, all RPG soldiers if possible, if not MGs, with binocs, and sidearms.
Never put "engage at will," just put "engage." If you put engage at will, units act really stupid, break formation and run at the enemy looking for a better spot to shoot. When they are doing this, they get killed. If you put engage, they just stay in formation and shoot, and usually kill the enemy before they shoot back.<span id='postcolor'>
lol, i did restart and i did the mission again. To be totally honest that squad that showed up after i'd taken out the tanks killed me
I always have engage at will on, but i'm a crap leader in opf
If i use just engage instead would it prevent my men blowing up the ammo trucks? i had to give all my rpg's only one round each to take out the T-72 so they couldn't take out the trucks -
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hovmand @ July 26 2002,01:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Could someone explain to me what the concept of the show is? Is it just two teams going at eachother or what?<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah. They get very experianced special forces guys from across america, SEALs, Delta force, Marine Recon, CIA and SWAT, and split all these into 4 squads. Every episode 2 of these go against each other in combat missions, thats like, rescuing a hostage, blowing up a tank, drug busts... These guys supposedly have years and years and years of experiance, and are all big, muscular and stuff
before then they have two contests, like physical contests such as big pugle sticks fights, and technical such as weapon construction. The winner get extra points. In the big mission they start out with like 1000 points (and some extra depending on the 2 exercises) and they get like, 50 points deducted for each man they lose, 5 deducted for every minute the mission lasts, and whether or not they complete the objective. They use real weapons but fake ammo and the miles laser tag system. They don't compete against each other, each squad takes turns against shadow squad, which are the terrorists/enemy. Its like counterstrike kind of.
The team that loses has to lose one man, either they vote him off or they draw swords (random), they then have to choose another guy to replace him.
A while into the series the teams can't replace lost members, and also have to compete against each other. The winning team get money, and i think that in the end, only 2 men will remain, and the one who wins out of them gets the grand prize and is the best.
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well, let me tell you about the time my entire squad f'd up bad...
We had word that a convoy was passing through a valley near our field base, two trucks with a T72 and bmp escort, frightening. Well, i got my squad together, most with RPG's, and we jogged merrily to the valley, with 10 minutes until the convoy arrived. The general feeling that this would be my last experiance on Nogova, the island i would die to defend, was amplified as 2 of my men got lost somewhere struggling to keep up. After they'd crawled, slowly, up the steep cliffside, i gave them a bit of a flogging, and rushed into position above the road, rpg ready, i ordered my men, engage at will, but then told them to hold fire. merely 40 seconds i could hear the slow rumble to vehicles, and sure enough, the convoy passed totally oblivious to the fact we were gonna own them. Ordering three guys to fire at the T-72, i attempted to take out the fast moving bmp, but it was not to be. Apparently a LAW is different to a RTP despite the fact they look the same. I went prone very quickly before my men saw my fuck up. Well, it wasn't long until the bmp was dead, as well as several of my men who for some reason were legging down the hill full throttle in front of about 8 slightly bemused russians, who killed them. I pinced a nearby rpg and fired into a group of 3 ruskies, sending them flying all over the place. Well, that was the convoy taken out, and we could finally enjoy the spoils of our efforts - a lovely ammo truck. Well, as i moved slowly down the hill i noticed one truck had buggered off and was driving away pretty fast. Luckily we shot it enough to kill the driver, phew.
Then, boom, up went the ammo truck, i looked to my left and saw that this wasn't some fiendish russian ammo denier thing, but a dumbass resistance member called Bubba. Shooting him in the face out of pure frustration my squad decided to take out the other truck sitting on the road. Great. To sweeten things up, my scouts happily reported there were more tanks coming my way. ''Damm, i thought to myself, we'd better bugger off'', but no. Too often i say things that go against everything i think, and i said rather happily that i'd like to stay and take them out. Well, grabbing what i could from dead bodies we all legged it into the bushes.
A few minutes later the tanks arrived. I couldn't be arsed waiting, and ordered a full out attack from long range. Now, before this my squad had all been, in a word, stupid fucking idiots, but now they redeemed themselves by landing 2 rpgs right onto the T-72, taking it out. And that was them out of ammo, but, never fear, i had 2 rpg rounds. Fooosh!!! i fired my rpg directly at the bmp, but, embarressingly, it landed short. ''Never fear lads, it has only seen a few of us'' (sound of horrible screams and dying as bmp fires at us) Foosh!! Never the kind to give up hope i fired again, only for the bmp, driving full speed forward, tol craftily dodge it. Shitting my pants by now i hit the dirt and sneaked under a tree, i looked up the hill, ''Oh Yes!!! Fry that Fucker Anatoly!!'', i saw a lone resistance guy taking aim with his big rocket tube, and was waiting in anticipation for him to fire. Unfortunatly, not only did he not fire, he got killed
Expecting nothing but death, me and my last remaining squad member, a machine gunner, lay in wait. Feeling a bit evil i ordered my man to stand up and leg it to a nearby rpg, but predictably, he was killed. Well, after pondering for a few minutes what to do, i decided to crawl up to a nearby resistance guy (dead of course) and pray he had a rpg round left. He did! Foosh! i hit the bmp full on and it flew straight into some tree's, they all came crashing down and i felt some extreme satisfaction. Standing up i nicked some Binoculers, a AK, and all the rpg rounds i could find, and legged it back to base. Of course, because i'd had so much luck today already,god felt it neccessary to balence it out with some unluckyness, and a squad of russians beared down on me. Â being a real man, i legged it as fast as i could to the base, a few bullets whizzing past me, and success, i got there!! This story has been pretty long so i'll end it here. Plus i'm sorry about all the spelling mistakes i see i've made and can't be arsed changing -
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (lilwillie @ July 26 2002,00:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes first season, Scott was a pissy pants threw the whole ordeal, and it cost him in my opinion.
Nice to see Rudy, the guy who played in the very first survivor get to show his stuff.
In my opinion SWAT guys have the advantage because they are using thier training every day of the week, serving warrants, survielance of possible suspects. Where the military boys get trained and trained and trained. Then wait and wait and wait for the time to strike, not very often we have conflicts where SEALS are used everyday, but SWAT officers its a daily ordeal. Physically the Military guys are better off, but experience wise I think SWATs got em beat.<span id='postcolor'>
I think the SEALs and all the military suck because they have their heads up their asses, they believe they're the best and thats it. Thats not a bad thing, but they're unwilling to listen to the SWAT guys, who seem to be better, i mean, look at that Jody Taylor guy, he gets like 7 kills every single mission, then look at Helveston, he gets none
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (lilwillie @ July 25 2002,23:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is this the second season? Or has the first season only now made it overseas?
If it's the second then YEEha, loved that show, the first season was great, I won't spoil who won, but it was worth it to follow.<span id='postcolor'>
I got no idea what season it is, its the one with Scott Helveston pissing everyone off with his cheerleading
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KingBeast @ July 25 2002,23:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I dont really think that in modern times at least, Religion plays all that big a part in warfare. Its more in the quite distant past that Religion was the main reason to go to war for. Im sure there was no nobler thing to do than to go to war for the Church.<span id='postcolor'>
In modern day religion is changed and modifyed to persuade people to either:
a) Give loads of money to religious figure x
b) Make people blow themselves up in order to kill other people
c) Draw more people to religion for expansion on point a)
Wars are usually just hatred or a neccessity, religion is often one of the reasons for war. Not always though, but religion always pokes its head in somewhere for the exploitation of pain and suffering (Like exploiting all the stolen valuables from the jews during WW2).
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Turkish @ July 25 2002,22:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ruud van Nistelrooy @ July 25 2002,14:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hi, this may've moved on but i thought i'd give my opinion on these things:
Abortion - this shouldn't be frowned upon, yes, people may think it's murder, but i'm pretty sure if these god squad people were living in shitty houses with no money and stuff, they'd want an abortion if they couldn't support it. Its a choice between two 'deaths' for the baby - Dying in his mothers womb (although wether its ''living'' in this state is debatable), or dying in poverty with drugs lying about the place with no food, clothing and parents who wanted to get rid of him/her, but couldn't because some religious humanitarians have to invade and control everyone elses lives for them simply because their false gods don't believe in abortion. Some people don't understand that babies can ruin peoples lives, they just say ''who cares if you have to support 15 kids by working in a sweatshop where you're raped and beaten everyday, you had... sex... without protection!! you're going straight to hell, this is your punishment before then''. Of course, they don't give a shit about the baby, they don't care they'll have to live in squaler, all they care about is the person having the baby. Maybe they can then ruin their lives furthur afterwards by nicking off with their babies because they can't be supported, and then they shove them in a nunery so they can be assimilated into their religion so they can exploit a few more people for money and needless worship.
Death Penalty - It isn't really a punishment, i'd rather have serial killer types spend the rest of their lives in a shitty prison with a 9 foot tall homo called bubba. Thats punishment, simply killing them is the easy way out really, they won't reform, they'll happily go out and slaughter people, but why kill them? let them suffer the unpleasantness of a dark, horrible prison cell, the company of 20 hardcore inmqates who hate serial killers, and of course regular unofficial beatings from the guards.<span id='postcolor'>
Ruud,
I could kind of see your point of view if that were the case in every abortion issue, but it isn't. Â That's great that you sympathize with the women who are unfortunate enough to always hook up with deadbeat sleaze-ball men, but it gets to the point where you have to say, "Okay, now you have 4 kids that you don't want from 4 guys that you haven't seen since. Â Haven't you learned anything?"
You cannot take blame from the mother, and that is regardless of where she lives. Â You talk about the moms that work in sweatshops to support their 15 kids while living in a crack neighborhood with pimps and drunks and druggies. Â But in many cases, in this country at least, the mom doesn't work to support her family. Â She and/or the dad just sit at home and collect welfare. Â And you know who pays for that? Â Tax paying citizens like me. Â And when that starts to happen, I start to lose sympathy. Â
I work my ass off for my wife and my two kids, and I don't get paid a whole lot. Â We live by the penny, and money is always tight. Â My wife even works a part time job to help out. Â So what I don't get is this...in America, why do I have to work my ass off to provide for my family (which I do with the utmost amount of joy), AND provide for the 15 children of some woman who is too careless to keep her legs shut?
When you start a sexual relationship with someone, you'd better be prepared that you could get pregnant. Â It's like playing with a loaded gun and being surprised when you shoot yourself in the foot. Â When you have sex, it's safe to assume that you know that you could get pregnant, whether you're aware of it or not. Â I mean, it's not like it's a big secret that that's how babies are made.
And as far as your comment about dying in the mother's womb or in poverty on the streets, at least the kid has a chance in the streets. Â If you abort the baby, you're not even giving it a chance. Â How right is that?<span id='postcolor'>
I never said that some people should be prevented from having abortions, indeed rich sluts who have abortions every week should just be spat on and live with it, but abortion in general should be an option for some people provided they have a case for the abortion. They should look at incomes and situations, a single mother who is jobless and can't support the baby - yes, that should be paid for, but the money grabbing slut who just gets pregnant for welfare/fathers money should have to pay for her own.
I was saying that abortion shouldn't be abolished, i agree there should be certain restrictions on abortions, but the whole ''Abortion is Murder and every time someone gets an abortion god starts crying'' kind of thing is stupid. Abortion should be an option and shouldn't be forwned upon or stopped because of religion.
If you abort the baby, you are giving it a painless death (probably), if you have the baby it may grow up in a very unhealthy environment. I don't believe life begins with conception, once the baby is born is when its life starts.
One more point - if a mother can't abort her baby legally due to typical religious bollox, then more often than not she will abort the baby herself - by shoving nasty stuff up her minge. Which is preferable? The baby will probably feel more pain having a shovel plowed into his fragile head than having the injection, whats more the women will be damaged for life and may even die. Legal abortion isn't exactly murder depending on how you look it. Making abortion illegal can result in much more death and sadness.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jester983 @ July 25 2002,21:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh its back on now? I really liked that show. And alot of the SWAT guys were pretty damn good. What time and when?<span id='postcolor'>
well, its on Bravo from i think 7.30 GMT
Theres a few SWAT guys who kick ass
they aren't arrogent and they're more exciting and funny to watch cos they aren't used to blowing up tanks and 20 mile runs everyday -
Hi, this may've moved on but i thought i'd give my opinion on these things:
Abortion - this shouldn't be frowned upon, yes, people may think it's murder, but i'm pretty sure if these god squad people were living in shitty houses with no money and stuff, they'd want an abortion if they couldn't support it. Its a choice between two 'deaths' for the baby - Dying in his mothers womb (although wether its ''living'' in this state is debatable), or dying in poverty with drugs lying about the place with no food, clothing and parents who wanted to get rid of him/her, but couldn't because some religious humanitarians have to invade and control everyone elses lives for them simply because their false gods don't believe in abortion. Some people don't understand that babies can ruin peoples lives, they just say ''who cares if you have to support 15 kids by working in a sweatshop where you're raped and beaten everyday, you had... sex... without protection!! you're going straight to hell, this is your punishment before then''. Of course, they don't give a shit about the baby, they don't care they'll have to live in squaler, all they care about is the person having the baby. Maybe they can then ruin their lives furthur afterwards by nicking off with their babies because they can't be supported, and then they shove them in a nunery so they can be assimilated into their religion so they can exploit a few more people for money and needless worship.
Death Penalty - It isn't really a punishment, i'd rather have serial killer types spend the rest of their lives in a shitty prison with a 9 foot tall homo called bubba. Thats punishment, simply killing them is the easy way out really, they won't reform, they'll happily go out and slaughter people, but why kill them? let them suffer the unpleasantness of a dark, horrible prison cell, the company of 20 hardcore inmqates who hate serial killers, and of course regular unofficial beatings from the guards.
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with sim city 3000 i just put in all the cheats, getting loads of money and being able to build stuff for free, then i put the game on pause, cover the entire map in stuff, all with water, access, excellent police and fire coverage and shedloads of hospital, bus stations etc... with connections to all surrounding continents and a massive airport, then i unpause, my residential zones grow at lightspeed, my industrial grows slightly slower but gradually theres hardly any yellow left, and then my commercial gorws a little bit, then encouragingly grows a little faster, then stops completly and turns into hobo land full of burnt out buildings. Then the game mocks me furthur by demanding more commercial zones, when a third of the map is covered in them anyway. Being an A-Level geography student i've put in every single little thing about urban geoegraphy that may help my struggle
Plus, because i use the cheats, all taxes are at 0 and ev en though my population is like, 80 thousand businesses still won't come in, even though they don't have to pay any tax. Sim City 3000 is a true stain on my gaming life (Hits sim city 3000)