ralphwiggum

ok...stop mentioning politics. last warning before I hand out PRs

ok, first, do not use profanities. second, don't turn this into a politics thread. I've seen enough of this discussion and how they ended up in other forums so don't try it. I will come down hard.

I recently played some MP games on public server, and experienced very little problem. I'm really satisified with this product.

so? it's a discovery channel show, not a chinese hackjob. I do have a comment for that video though. The groupings of the both rifles in the video could be better. You can see that both shooters are jerking the trigger.

ok, this thread is about to go OT. Don't let it happen.

the airdrop one was first introduced here by Mr Frag IIRC in 2002 The helicopter one was around that time IIRC. And the howitzer things been here too.... damn I'm old.... Good find on Norweigian entry vid.

Too OT for OT. closing. I'll chime in. Been here since Nov. 2001, but due to forum clean-up, joined Jan. 2002. I forgot when I became a moderator. Â So I guess I fall into old-timer group. The simplest way to put it is that things change. It's been 5 years since the forum was made into current system, and that is 2-3 generations in internet time. It is inevitable that some left and some just don't hang out much. For me, I finally got a career going on after getting my master's degree, and that means I cannot spend more time moderating as I used to. I do check in at least 4-7 times per day and see how things are going. But the amount of time I spend has been cut short due to real life events and other things. I've been reading a lot of forums, mostly gun forums, and the change that those forums are going through is just as same as what we are going through now. Old timers don't show up often as time goes on and new comers ask same damn question again. Recently, a gun forum adopted a strict policy of no bigotry. This is a forum that had a lot of chest thumpers and chariborne commandos saying things like "nuke them from orbit" when talking about middle east affairs, and beleive that there are no good muslims. And they were not alone. Another gun forum decided to crack down on those comments about a year ago. This forum was way more ahead of them in terms of decency enforced. And that's what made some colorful people not show up frequently. For a frequent discussion, having two sides help, and having both of them completely extreme in their toughts helps fule the discussion for better or for worse(usually the latter). When there is an equilibrium reached in terms of decency that's when things get boring. Just look at world history and how this place is going, Shortly after 9-11 and Operation Iraqi Freedom, things went quite heated. But theses days, when the conclusion can be made that it's an impasse or TBA screwed up without much doubt(for rational people), there isn't much to be debated. Just look at all those politics threads we had. They are not not on the front page. Those were the biggest threads in the forum. As for the individuals that came and left OT section, I can remember some incidents where one person was banned for racist remarks, the other for homophobia(later reduced), another for posting useless threads that ate bandwidth. Now they are coloful people, but in seriousness, not much of substance. Maybe that's the problem. Having substance could lead to boredom. As for the game community itself, the way I see it is that it is now a grown up market. In the late 90s, PC games were the thing to do. Consoles were ok but most of the sophisticated titles were in PC format. That was true until the market shifted to console market. So in that sense, it could be that we are now dealing with smaller group of people. When OFP came out, it was THE revolutionary game that was in its own class. So a lot of people would come here and try to push the limit of the engine. And it also was the time when technologies were developing by months, not years. So there was this natural vibrance of new and dynamic society. I wonder how many people remember the day when O2 was delayed. Unfortunately, it fell on the birthday of a great mod maker, and boy was that a sight to see......Now that ARMA pretty much has everything that most want in there, maybe that could dampen the efforts of some creative members of the community. Now the codes are getting complicated, and that could drive-off some people. There's also the problem of shrinking market. PC gaming is not like what it was before, and with not much drastic change in future, it would look like there are less to make people thrilled to new stuff. There are a lot of people who want instant gratification, and they use annonimity of internet to spout their twisted minds and desires. And we have been dealing with them quite nicely and that would seem like we are evil sadistic mods. But anarchy is not as attaractive as it seems. This server is owned by a real company which hires real people. There are real life reasons why a forum has to be dealt in such way. Edit: Tov - unfortunately you still cannot have member title of "Avril Lavigne Rules" since Assault[CAN] still won't release it.

this would have been best asked in ask a mod thread. basically they represent different groups someone is in.

Exactly what I'm saying. When we engage ourselves into forums, we get the usual "wahhh! biased mods interjecting into the discussion", but when we do our duties without any personal feelings, we get some crap like "wwaaaahhh! mods who don't come here suddenly mess with out fun!"

Couldn't have said it better myself. Really? Like when people were screaming for mod to stay out of discussion because they "take sides" and can't be a fair mod? Just look at the shooting discussion thread. Just like 300 thread(which was loosely based on historical warfare) it is still open. On top of that I've been criticized by both sides of the gun law. Stop whining.

no plan to do so. it will be abused by some people who wish to push the envelope, just like some people's sig. In fact yours is one of them.

Do not bring up history of unrelated events. It has no basis and America is not the only nation to have a history of this nature. Again, simply more insults. CrashDome. Please do not go down to personal attacks. My opinions have formed during a long time and I assure you I don't make hasty judgements, quite the opposite. Do not see my words as an insult towards U.S. or any of its citizens as that is certainly not my intention. If it isn't your intention, than don't insult me... because I AM a citizen of the US and all of your FALSE stereotypes apply to me. Those are not insults.

Watch it. Tread carefully.

  Please do not close this thread because of what I am about to say. I don’t want to be the one responsible for the lock.  However I must ask, in what possible way do you think this thread can possibly head that does not lead to the discussion of gun control? Whenever there is a mass killing where the murderer used a firearm inevitably people who dislike guns will start discussing the implementation of gun control. It goes both ways. I've been checking on gun forums and they seem to use this tragedy as an example to furthere their ideas, just as much as the other side does. It's not the side; it's the method of presentation and attitude. I've had enough of both sides on this issue and will deal with it.

if this thread ends up in discussion of gun control, it will be locked down. or if it goes the wrong way for that matter.

Came late to the whole thread as usual, but I'd like to pay respect for Avon for putting up the site that helped a lot of people. May you have great time with the real life, and wish you the best.

enough

ok..i think this is going to go down hill or at least OT from here. intervention is what I'll do.

yup. and too OT. closing

welcome to college. Highschool was nothing compared to college. When you are in college you are always tested and it's discipline that will get you through. I was near 4.0 student in highschool, but I ended up with 3.1 GPA in college. This topic is too OT. I will give 24hrs before I close it.

yup. but some do tell the story...

Let me add more to that. In Southern California, it's 1-2 hours of driving for that. I think someone said it somewhere before, and I'll say it again. You can get those kind of response in any place on earth. Just needs some patience and enough people. One thing that is funny about the map the guy was holding was that Austrailia was labeled "North Korea" or someother country. Missing a big continent is inexcusable, but resorting to such trickery is also lame.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070302/ap_on_fe_st/mistaken_invasion_2 Not the first time a military went into another nation. I remember when Brits(?) landed on Portugal.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/15/war.plans.ap/index.html There you go folks. Wrong assumptions, wrong planning. Always plan for worst, hope for best, not plan for best, hope for best.