ralphwiggum

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kegetys @ Mar. 01 2002,20:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Indeed. It also changes some unit weaponry too, Ie. BMP weapon "machinegun6_7" is changed to a new weapon named "PKT". Well guess what happens when two players meet in a BMP on multiplayer when one has the soundmod and one doesnt... Or if the server has the soundmod, no one with the original sounds can play there as the weapon loadouts sent by the server are invalid for the non-soundmod people. <span id='postcolor'> wait a sec...i thought satchel's mod was only sound mod! does it change weapons?

or maybe he's alive and since he has nothing to do now(his camps are gone) he learns to love.(his goats!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpaceAlex @ Mar. 01 2002,19:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Great patch, but something bothers me. It seems that u can't land with chopper anymore. You can hover 2M off ground, but u can't land. 2M off ground is limited altitude with engine on. Â U must stop the engine. Then u can touch the ground. <span id='postcolor'> i'm not an aviation person..is this 'realistic'?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Black Knight @ Mar. 01 2002,19:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Mar. 01 2002,19:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">- Fixed: Addons could change config entries that should not be changed, namely base class definiton of ,any class, leading to dammaged functionality or bogus "... uses modified config file" messages. - Config protection message "... uses modified config file" is now more specific, the exact location of changed value is displayed. - CfgSurfaces protected against addon modification. ------------------------------------------------------------<span id='postcolor'> Does this mean that i can't use Stachels sound mod <span id='postcolor'> probably yes...but satchel's good.he'll pull something..

we can BLOW UP FUEL STATIONS!!!!! YEEEESSSS!!!!!!!!!!! HEY Gimbal!! you are mentioned and thanked for discovering a bug!! GREAT JOB!!! oh crapp.. limimted altitude for choppers

isn't that Dick Cheney's own palce? Seriously, I'd say it's a great idea. you can never be too careful

You guys won't believe this. A few days ago, someone asked on this forum about how to downlaod a full copy of OFP. Someone pulled his leg, so I did too. Here's my reply back then (something like) </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I used to go to a great warez site. ok. get a ftp program connect to 127.0.0.1, anonymously then you'll be connected. start searching. go through every folder somtimes you will find great programs, but if it's not there, then it's hard to find.<span id='postcolor'> (end) Guess what!!!!!! the thread starter actually sent me Iknoboard messenger this morning, and here's the message: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Topic: about 127.0.0.1 Contents:what is the password for this site? <span id='postcolor'> Â Â Â Â Â I don't know how old that person is, but if you are reading this post, please understand that we were just pulling your legs. WAREZ OFP is not what we like!!!!! Â It might be expensive, but it's worth every penny!!!! When you go get your own legit copy, plz share your experience with us. *can't believe this actually worked....

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 01 2002,14:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Later I heard from one of my friends that he had found a guy hosting a pedophile FTP on his computer, through using the N B. So my friend had used the pedophiles own email prog to mail the cops and ratted him out that way. Perdy sweet <span id='postcolor'> hmmm....just for getting that pedophile off the net, your sins of harassing others should be forgiven.

Happy 18th Birthday Kegetys, remember, growing old is mandatory, but getting mature is not j/k anyway, congrats on your 18th b-day. as someone older than you, i'd like to say that life sucks as is, but try to make the best out of it. p.s. oh, and make sure you use condomns.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ Mar. 01 2002,06:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">thats what Im talking about ralph.. thats a fairly insignifigant thing "achievement".. remember black history month is about ACHIEVMENTS.. yet.. the guys I listed.. the first black millionare.. the black school that outperformed all the white schools in the state 3 YEARS IN A ROW.. they are never even mentioned durin BMH.. why? because there is no good guy/badguy black/white... GOOD/EVIL.. confrontation.. thats my whole point.. if your gonna devote a month to pointing out a bunch of confrontations that white and black people had half a century ago.. fine.. but dont hide it behind the guise of "achievment".. when all it is is to point out.. "ohh white people did bad things!".. which is what virtually all the "subjects" of black history month is about.. they talk about Martin Luthor King.. do they discuss his life? not really.. do they talk about the things he did? no.. do they discuss his teachings? no.. do they stand back and admire the progress he made? no..well what do they focus on?? the fact that a white guy shot him...<span id='postcolor'> my point is that although those ppl might have made achievements, we need to look at wider perspectice. MLK is remebered because he tried to make achievement possible for whole blacks, not in small sectors.

eh.....i feel privileged too!

draw a horizontal line that crosses your recon area. it should be slightly slanted towards your above left. Then shilkas should be there with in close proximity. I finished that mission with one try. it's easy. just look for campfires.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Garritos @ Mar. 01 2002,06:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol ralph I guess my .02 cents did turn into a couple of dollars, too.  and I think there was a point to my huge run-on sentence of a post.  If BIS dosent give it to those ppl will you have your father arrest them, or better yet make them into a police informant   but I do feel for the ppl like minion that could possibly come up with some good stuff, but they will be passed by b/c they are not "name" OFP model editors.  Guess we cant have our cake and eat it too  <span id='postcolor'> he's busy trying to catch Sideshow Bob and Snake... and he's busy guarding our beautiful town of Springfield. However, if BIS doesn't support those ppl, I'll ask my dad to lock'em cuz they are nerds

good luck on your check.. however, this reminds me of my female friend's situation. Her mother's side has history, and I MEAN HISTORY, of breast cancer, most of them got in late 20's and early 30's. So last yr, she was doing self-exam, and felt some lump. She went to doctor to get it checked, but until then she was scared, because she knew the history. Turns out, it was a small concentration of caffeine or something like that. It was NOT cancer, and she was relieved to hear that. So, Ex-Ronin, relax..it could be similar thing. just some un-related thing that feels like cancer. but you should go and check it out anyways. and use this chance to have others aware of breast cancer. If your girlfriend needs help, you can always learn self-exam procedures and do it together of course, i have no doubt that your girlfriend will appreciate your caring thoughts for her by performing check on hers too.:D *runs away*

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (M|N|0N @ Mar. 01 2002,06:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yeah ... like someone said before ... not only are they filtering out the bad modellers and that .. but they are also filting out the talented ppl that havnt showin themselfs yet .... and one of those ppl could be me  .... and there are bound to be 50+ others aswell<span id='postcolor'> I know....i'm definitely one of those 50...actually...i wanted to learn 3d modeling with Oxygen...but for the sake of OFP's stability, I'm willing to wait a bit more. c'mon...please...could you practice abstinence for the sake of simple users like me?

Here's my reason of supporting BIS's decision. When O2 is released to all ppl right now. what will happen is that ppl will scramble to make their version of same weapon, causing problems of compatiblity. I mean, if I have Ak101 that can fly 20000meters, and I'm playing with my friend who has another version that only lets you fire 10000meters. AFAIK OFP will say, 'Hey, both have AK101!, i'll say they are compatible.' But what will happen is that when I see my friends 15000meters away, I can blow him away(ok not literally...my shooting sucks) because my AK101 add-on has legit reasons to do it.(of course, my friend can blow me up too, since when he fires, the info will be relayed to my PC, which will use my AK101 setting). However, what happens is that I took advantage of the difference. My firend, despite seeing me, would say that, 'Ha! he's too far away to shoot me!' because he knows that his Ak101 add-on fires 10000meters, not 15000 meters. however, as I shoot, the bullet will fly 15000meters and hit him ,which will be recorded as a hit, and then my poor friend will die, despite having himself out of HIS add-on's effective range. What will follow is system of rating as ppl mentioned earlier. However, this has its own share of problems. First, we know some idiots will do anything to promote their mod, so that will skew what ppl really think is a great addon( by vote). even if we have rating system, we need a centralized rating system. that way, ppl don't have to compare the rating system to see which one is the most valid one. so, let's say we have a unique rating system, all folllowed by OFP community. Another problem that rises is that getting rating would be also biased, and have seed to debate on which is more accurate and so on. ppl will claim that their add on is perfect and others is a crap, and vice versa. So someone, with respective authority has to make decisions. And who do we have for that? BIS But that's not the end of problem. Since there will be debates and controversies on who is better, and some will undoubtly cry foul at BIS's choice. What does this mean? BIS has to eval all 100000mods, and that translates into eating BIs's time. This will cause trade-off in BIS's time. Instead of developing bugs and other stuff, BIS is now forced to take the roll of evaluator, and any improvements will be coming at slower pace. This will be disasterous for OFP's life-span I know many are disappointed and vow not to set foot on this place. But if you think about it, going from 0 to 60miles is not easy thing to do. you have to go from 0 to 10 first, and then 10 to 60. You can't just make a baby run, when he hasn't even learn to crawl yet. By reducing numbers of release, BIS can make sure that mods are properly made, and knowledge is built on how to use. Of course, they need to share the knowledge, but having some kind of ordered knowledge will benefit dumb ppl like me. IF we just start sharing ideas right now, this forum will crash. So we have to take a step at a time. Please, be patient

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (M|N|0N @ Mar. 01 2002,05:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what i would like to know tho ... is what are the chances of ppl like myself that do model weapons player and vehicls or anything else for that matter, would be able to get a copy of that programe ... but cant promise many release that BIS would expect? i mean i would not mind messing around editing player models or makeing new one and maybe a weap or two, but not have not got the time for doing it full time .... cozz i am busy with other game releated production right now ... so i am busy ... but i would still like to mess around and release once in a while??? i mean would ppl like myself have a chance at getting the tool?<span id='postcolor'> yes you do...they said they would release it.

so you think having examples of a few successful represents the whole community? yeah, i bet David Duke is a shining example of white-pride. You can't just look at the small numbers of success and label it as the group's success. Take for example, Rosa Parks. that white driver 'ordered' her to give seat to whote person. thye both paid same are, but why does she have to give up that seat for white person?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Garritos @ Mar. 01 2002,05:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Time for my unimportant 0.02 cents.  I dont neccisarily agree with BIS welshing on their original statement of releasing OXYGEN to the public by the end of Febuary.   I dont like the Idea of the game developer "playing God" with the tools.  But assuming OXYGEN has not already been released to certain Mod teams already, there may not be an immediate need for it.  During the last few weeks I have seen some eye opening screenshots of new weapon models in game(on the lost brothers page) and the G8 team has released a M113 with no turret   There is also the tool from a-lone-wolf that allows weapons to be altered.  Im no expert but it seems at the rate the community is going, by the time BIS releases OXYGEN to the public, there may be no need for it  I will list the following list of the PPL in MY OPINION that deserve the tool, and if any didnt get it, would really make me loose faith in the direction that BIS is taking: -Tigershark/Jellybelly: anyone in the OFPEC camp should get it automaticly (I dont care if they want to make a flying terd with wings) for the simple fact that if it was not for their site, this community wouldnt have half the members that it currently boasts (me included, this game would still be sitting in the dust pile on top of my WW2online CD had I not stumbled upon their site and decided to take a stab at the editor)  now I plan on purchasing IL and RES expansion.  Also include select this and ebud with them -UceE:  Have you seen those Russian federation skins or the upcoming finnish mod ('nuff said) -Kegerty:  Just incase he decides to tinker and stumble upon the next breakthrough  -Lost Brothers team:  Im not sure if they need it but their work looks great with a fine eye for detail -I44:  excluding them would put some amazing work down the drain -OperationVietnam:  another very promising pre1985 mod -Satchel:  I wouldnt have normally put him in here since i havent seen much of his work but have you seen that apache in the add-on forum??  put the default to shame, Id like to see what this guy could do with such a powerful tool. Im sure I have left out some really important ppl but these came from the top of my head and if any of these guys were excluded it would really hurt BIS's image in my eyes (and probably more than just mine).  Again, let me state that these are the shue ins in my opinion far more than 7 ppl in the community deserve OXYGEN.  Im really hoping that this decision works out for BIS and the OFP community,  I dont see the wisdom in it right now but maybe i can be persuaded  <span id='postcolor'> ehh....you mean 2 cents, right? not 2/100th of a cent... I agree with your list. BIS should not hesistate to give those ppl OXYGEN, whether they have some project in mind or not. Those ppl should send email to request one. They all contributed to OFP community in enormous way, and they deserve it.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Black Op @ Feb. 28 2002,20:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Feb. 28 2002,18:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is not that funny, but here it goes. I took a music history in Beethoven not long ago. It was for general education or something. Well, the prob was that this class was intended for music majors, not non-music majors, like 80% of class. And to make things worse, there were 2 listening tests. i.e. listen to a portion of Beethoven's song, name the opus number, year it was written and chords(C, c Dminor and so on...) ok..there were 10 questions out of approx. 20 songs. Prob was that I had modem connection, and dl-ing all these songs were so useless since Napster users don't listen to Beethoven as much as Robbie Williams. So, the instructor posted some real media files with secured server with our library server. When second test came along, I decide to listen to the works with better sound, so I went to nearest PC lab. Logged on, and listened to many Beethoven songs. I finally got to Symphony #9(Ode to joy), and was about to listen to the famous part (la la la la la la la la--sorry, the happyness part?), when suddenly the whole song stopped. And I got curious and watched people around the lab. I saw a bunch of guys and gals running around asking each other what happened, taking their earphones out. well.. seems like there were too many request for the contents, and you know what that is called, right? I pinged the server to check and emailed admin, and went onto class discussion page, only to find many poor souls crying where they could find stuffs. we had to listen to MIDI files. But as I suspected, the instructor was pissed, but decided to move the listening test a week later.<span id='postcolor'> thats a prank!!?? <span id='postcolor'> eh....kinda unexpected prank....the prof was pissed off

I know my words will cause anger in some, but I support BIS's decision. I kinda feared that proliferation of customized add-ons would ruin and dilute OFP's stanadrad add-ons. Let me say it again. I want only the official, bug-free add-ons. If OXYGEN was to be distributed freely, what could have happen is that we would end up with 10 different add-ons for one thing. Like, say, AK101, made by 10 different ppl, with all different attributes. For simple users like me, this is a pain in the ass. By limiting release, BIS can actually improve add-ons and so forth, while not compromising OFP's own architect. So we have to sacrifice a little bit of our desire, to make sure that OFP stays the way it is. Also, Maruk said only non-commercial projects are accepted. i.e. BIS wants to stick with community, but keep some orders, so that dumbdumbs like me can follow.

Anybody thinking of making a motorcycle race/tour map?

This is not that funny, but here it goes. I took a music history in Beethoven not long ago. It was for general education or something. Well, the prob was that this class was intended for music majors, not non-music majors, like 80% of class. And to make things worse, there were 2 listening tests. i.e. listen to a portion of Beethoven's song, name the opus number, year it was written and chords(C, c Dminor and so on...) ok..there were 10 questions out of approx. 20 songs. Prob was that I had modem connection, and dl-ing all these songs were so useless since Napster users don't listen to Beethoven as much as Robbie Williams. So, the instructor posted some real media files with secured server with our library server. When second test came along, I decide to listen to the works with better sound, so I went to nearest PC lab. Logged on, and listened to many Beethoven songs. I finally got to Symphony #9(Ode to joy), and was about to listen to the famous part (la la la la la la la la--sorry, the happyness part?), when suddenly the whole song stopped. And I got curious and watched people around the lab. I saw a bunch of guys and gals running around asking each other what happened, taking their earphones out. well.. seems like there were too many request for the contents, and you know what that is called, right? I pinged the server to check and emailed admin, and went onto class discussion page, only to find many poor souls crying where they could find stuffs. we had to listen to MIDI files. But as I suspected, the instructor was pissed, but decided to move the listening test a week later.

And let's not forget that Britain colonized and raped their lands. i see some kinda poetic justince.

you are asking too much at once!! for weapons thing, you have to put some script command in the INIT field of that unit say you are making a medic with M21, then put this this removeWeapon "M16"; this removeMagazine "M16"; this removeMagazine "M16"; this removeMagazine "M16"; this removeMagazine "M16"; this addMagazine "M21"; this addMagazine "M21"; this addMagazine "M21"; this addWeapon "M21" when you start the mission, your medic will have M21 instead of standard M16 respawn is contolled by description.ext for cutscenes, learning and using scripts are the best way for your editing queries, I'd suggest that you study first. I'd recommend Johan Gustavson's tutorials(one for editor, another for scripting) the best place to learn about edting is OFP editing center..i think address is http://www.ofpeditingcenter.com good luck