Renagade

hmm , crime is no culture if it's your way of life , get a job wealths don't need to be redistributed , once you got some goods , they belong to you and if anybody not welcomed crosses the door , his face will meet 2x40mm flashball rubber rounds burglars have no right to claim anything what if theres no jobs? and i disagree on the culture bit too ran .

In the UK u can`t get pepper spays or stunguns and if ur caught w ith one its more or less the same if the police got u with a gun

Grab it and run to ur nearest cd burner

and we in the Uk are even further back

ditto As for natural selection it is more dependant on wealth and society as much as what u got personally.

u got to be shittin me from what i`ve seen and heard over here lifers get little rooms and some time for tv and maybe a day or 2 leave under escorts every once in a while. The others get locked in small cells,usually 2 guys in there, most of the time with maybe an hour or 2 for exercise and pool and stuff. I always wonder if they make out that jails are to soft on criminals to push harsher laws around because U always hear the news making out that they get all an easy life but the documentries etc show it to be different

http://newssearch.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin....+mugger Heres another funny case The link theres for a few articles and its interesting to note that it went from the diplomat going out to attack the mugger who robbed his son to the later story of the mugger attacking him and his son and getting his knife turned and stuck into him. frisbee i think my post a few pages back gives answer to the issue u raised

Ill some up my opinion rather than quoting and answering as its easier on the eyes the point about societies responsibilty is true in a sense,take this example for instance. Some bigshot company exec sucks up all the buisness in t he area and spits out crappy jobs in return and makin a lot of ppl in a rubbish situation so they turn to crime to get ahead. A very simple situation but illustrates the point that it just isn`t because ppl are lazy etc that they turn to crime. The point made about burglers just wanting the gear is not true and burglars not attacking if they aren`t threatened is bullshit. Why do u hear of old folks getting beaten to a pulp for a very little cash?The issue is self defense not just robbery. Junkies,psychos,muggers,petty thiefs, general scumbags are the types u might run into one day on the street and in ur homes then u may acually think it might have been a good idea to have a weapon handy or a better security system. no thanks i`d rather not have a police state so is my personal safety but i don`t want that "stolen" I guess i probably agree on some level with that one. Tell me ,how many of u here have personal experiences of robbery or muggings etc?

[off-topic]in your sig You have quoted one of the best lines in one of the best movies out there [/off-topic] Tamme, the very idea of being let off after writing an apology letter (irregardless of whether the family accept ur apology or not) is laughable, if you commit a crime you should lose your rights as long as you are committing a crime, and once you have been apprehended you should be trialled in a court of law, regardless of your apology. What if the laws were stupid and ur only crime was to defend urself,u can easily become a criminal even if ur a good guy

Im sure the fatal shot was on the premises in dark light conditions. I`ll find the link to the details in a jiffy.

basicly what he said ^^ u shoukld have the rights to defend urself others and ur property but not a license to kill. AFAIK the fatal blow was in the house with regards to tony martin. Ill get back to u on the other issues,im rather busy now

Wheres the agnostic option??

The iraqi information minster agrees with u tovrish

Looking to become a new mod tovrish  and i saw that edit

can`t u control airliners remote control

Party Time

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3095385.stm He made the video for a school project, and he had locked it in a cupboard (I assume for the teacher to view/grade/wahtever) Â and the kids stole it...id say thats a pretty good case Only if u have enough evidence.............

never underestimate the power of the dark side ralph and u if ur image is linked u may not be "stealing" it anyway plus theres also the matter of derivitaves of copyright with this issue

i don`t know this bob hope guy

so did the guy who was trying to sue tony martin

Probably in theory but im sure cops,private detectives, news etc would say otherwise. I have no sympathy for the stupid fat kid who can`t take the heat. Now for those who are shot,stabbed,beaten,harrased etc on a regular basis, i might.

Well i hope they bad the u 2 for spamming as well

Then i guess loads of celebrities are due a ton of royalties from all the stupid magazines that stick thier faces on the front

No and at least the fat  kid got the chance to make a stupid movie in the first place. I agree with cloney "It's just something stupid he did. It's not like it was a video of him having a wank infront of a school camera" and USSoldier11B "Lucasarts oughta pay him a good sum to use it as a promo for Episode III. He would have lots of dough and it would let him get the last laugh." As for copyright "Quote (FSPilot @ July 28 2003,06:46) He copyrighted the tape? no, but the 4 kids did not have right/consent to give it out unless they had explicit written agreement from the kid. " U have to prove that first. Like i said before big deal,in the grand scheme of things this don`t count as much if anything at all