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Adverts... fuck me, I think I'll end up watching it illegally in 720p+ or not watch it at all. Adverts are killing sports events on TV and so sports should only be shown on the BBC or on SkySports. It vexes me so much when I am watching a game of footie on an ESPN stream and, not only do the commentators sound like they haven't ever seen football before, but every 90 seconds a collection of adverts are doing the rape on my face. The MLS XI game against Man U was disgusting, they were advertising shit during the game and the commentators became salesmen telling me all about these products that I wasn't in the process of buying BECAUSE I AM WATCHING A FUCKING FOOTBALL MATCH!!! If I was American, I'd probably be driven to killing George Clooney by feeding him those damn watches by the amount of times he appears with them.

Walker, you hardly have the high ground on intellectual discussions. Either way, both of you don't know Vince Cable and cannot speak for his character. The guy is an old horse of the British political class, I suggest you look into his history before barking about his motives. To add to the discussion, the Murdoch empire preaches ignorance, racism, sexism, 'Christian values' [read: reverting back to the Dark Ages] and a hatred of poor people (among other types of nonsense), it isn't far-fetched to say that these ideas that parties like the Torys and Republicans also adheer to are going to bring the party and the media corporation together. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy, although it was in the Murdoch-Cameron case.

I can't leave it. There isn't a country in the world without it.

Name all the right-wing monopolys: racism, sexism, anti-intellectualism, fascism, religion, homophobia, overly zealous-prohibition, ect. The Murdoch media empire flings this crap at the unthinking throng and has done for years. It frightens politicians from performing as individuals. Some of us aren't immoral and do wish humans to progress, the Murdoch conformity machine feels opposed to that but I'll allow evidence to prove me wrong because, unlike right-wing bagheads, I don't believe in things just because I have a tendency or bias. Murdoch, however, didn't believe in due process for George Tiller, just trial by Bill O. :Oo:

[troll]Fox news is the propaganda arm of the Republican/Tea/hate party in America.[/troll] Did I win?

;) I think there is enough time to see them both go. It is Arsene's fault that they feel like they need to move on, he has had years to rebuild that team after the Birmingham game in 2008 destroyed it and, because he didn't, now the top quality players all want to leave because they are being teamed up with Denilson, Bendtner, Eboue, Almunia, ect rather than a team built to win things. Nasri looks likely to go, Cesc looks less likely as the days go by because Barca aren't bidding, they are bullying (and being FC UEFA they will get away with it).

Lyon did us, now France did our players. :( I don't give a fuck about England but it is bad to see Arsenal players loosing with their national teams. I have to say though, Rachel Yankey, who I think has been one of our best Ladies at Arsenal for a while now, had a ineffectual game. Ah well, roll on the Asia tour.

So what if two or three jurnos go to jail for 18 months? News International will be able to rebuild their disgusting socially divisive media empire, just like the banks got away with their morally repugnant behaviour. Nothing morally fair will happen because circumstance won't allow it. Putting away or speaking up at an emperor of a media empire isn't worth loosing your job/privacy. So BSkyB will take over where NotW left off, the Murdochs will continue to get richer and the unconscious morass will be spoon-fed right-wing bullshit to the detriment of society. I am 21 and I have not seen a bad guy loose in my lifetime.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13997322 Calm down dear, its only about you and a matter of crimes against humanity.

The BBC is a public service in the UK. It is funded by the people through a TV licence payment so unless you live in the UK, you can't use the service.

This sounds dubious.

Wasn't Jtec making some MAN trucks too? They seem to be quite popular. Looks win either way.

Wow Hans Ludwig, your equally as obsessed with posting lists of trivia. Obviously I have to spell it out for you both because your so blinded by your rage against socialism (or whatever you seem to be raging against, I care not) that you can't just engage a guy on a single point. I don't give a fuck about GDP, I didn't bring it up in this debate, I don't want to talk about it, I never did. Read my first post that led to this string of discussion, at no point did I mention it. Now, understand this (and I know that might be a bit hard for you both but have a go) I didn't mention anything that Iroquois Pliskin proceeded to talk about so I was a bit annoyed that he said anything he said at all. This was before I realised he had a mental issue that would lead to swaying from tangent to tangent about unconnected issues.You two can continue to be case studies for ignorance for all I care, I didn't want to discuss anything ideological in nature because opinions are personal and thats sacred. So I offered to put my harking hat on if a discussion was boiling to get under way because, and I know right-wing people don't understand this, I would like to listen to your arguments for things related to the point of discussion. [The South Carolina town hall is a cultural reference but that type of reference seems to be a little too high-brow for you both so just ignore that bit]But no, both of you displayed your inability to read, you carried on straying into discussions of no relevance and still don't seem to understand that I haven't even entered your crazy discussions and conspiracy theorys. Just please read my posts for what they are, not what you want them to be or let me off the bus, you can keep spewing randomness all the way to ignorance central.

You are hopeless, you didn't read what I said to you about your tangents and just threw another floating issue at me. Now I know that you can't read, I'd put it in different colours to entertain your ADD while you read what I am actually saying but it is the proverbial 'wall of text' so I'll say this instead: I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT GDP If that isn't a big enough clue, save me the next game of run-around, the next spreadsheet of no relevance and the link to a conspiracy theory website and just kill yourself.

What are you going on about you spacker? You can fund welfare, it's cost isn't defined by a numerical boundary.I don't think you understand how conversation works, let alone social programs. So, no, I won't be taking heed of anything said from someone who strays off the point and rambles on about some irrelevant ideology that only Glen Beck would take him seriously. Your limited scope of history, inability to read and blind sense that you know anything at all along with your constant tangents that seem to be more of a self-affirmation tirade than meaningful input have me thinking that your worthy of condescension only. If you wanted to discuss something you cared about such as numbers, opinions or anything else you wouldn't have cried and started your declamation and, instead would have been calm and tried to lay out the facts and tell me your interpretations instead of barraging your opinions at me as if this is some South Carolina town hall meeting where it is customary to think that your the centre of the universe. If you don't want to be calm and have a discussion then fuck off to the American politics thread where you can post all the zerohedge shit you like and have plenty of swallowing mouthbreathers ready to agree that Europe has only existed for the fiscal year 2007 onwards.

Inspiration on names will properly come from the discussion with the guys and you who make it. But here is a thing, I was planning on making an island of the Kruger National park, since I am gay for it but don't get to go that often now, during the winter, time-permitting, with a bit of fluff too. For something like that the names (and linguistic, cultural and demographical reasons behind those names) already there but it wouldn't half be an ease on your time to have a selective approach to poaching real world names from a single nearby source such as a national park or a local population and their language. Just a thought ;)

Oh dear. Welfare isn't a nation, it is a social program, why would I be talking about financing in that way? Here is another way of saying it: You can fund welfare in the United States. As for the rest of your post, keep thinking that your looking down on other people because it is quite funny when thick people think they have all the answers and/or believe they are actually contributing in a high-brow manner. The problem is that both the European project and the Euro itself wouldn't be doing themselves any favours by throwing Greece to the wolves. Europe will look like it doesn't protect its own during hard times and the Euro will look shaky/malformed to creditors and the markets. There are those that would like more economic integration to come sooner too, they can use this situation to press for that integration.

Not exactly the same. There are many more routes out of the problem of financing welfare than you have mentioned, they just aren't being discussed because you don't have a party willing to stray into the realm of sanity yet. Democrats are too weak, Republicans are insane and both are two right-wing to be considered as holding a different end of the political spectrum. If people in Spain want someone to blame, they need only look at their reflection. The EU didn't instate a government, the rest of Europe didn't force them to be in a vulnerable position economically. I personally don't think integration has been mapped properly but thats what you get in a democracy/supranational democracy.

You'll be happy to see the Arma3 version then.http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/251130_196648663715205_192181357495269_479131_699927_n.jpg http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/248669_196648657048539_192181357495269_479130_6011099_n.jpg Or... rather, not.

If the company forced the BIS employees to wear compulsory merkins, I'd probably spaff in excitement.

I know. I was just extending on what you said in a serious way.

OMFG, you Nazi!!!!!! RARARARAARARARarararRARArararARAR!!!!!! The thing about Codies is that they didn't try to make anything. They just stuck guns on a racing engine and claimed they were doing something along the lines of creating a game that was more realistic than ___. Thats the problem, the game has no originality and if a game isn't original then it needs context, it needs a comparison and there wasn't anything to compare it to because Codies created their own genre for it to dodge Call of Duty and Arma2 comparisons. An empty box doesn't please the punters.

Can someone create some internet-drama? Just to give this thread a reason to exist.

50 years of talking about flying cars proves how primitive we are. It can't happen so why do people carry on as if we just need someone to build them before they become mainstream?

Thats why you don't live in London if your on minimum wage. 80p for a Mars bar, what the fuck?