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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Mar. 15 2002,05:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this story was funny until I got to HIV part....<span id='postcolor'>

    You know, it's Human Immunodeficiency Virus. Goats can't get it, so the poor thing is safe from that. If the moron was screwing an ape, then there would be a danger of inter species contagion.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LordZach @ Mar. 15 2002,07:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">good luck finding any jews in the palestinian territories.  they are long dead.<span id='postcolor'>

    Actually the settlers in the colonies on palestinian territory are jews and they're still very much kicking...

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Mar. 14 2002,12:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

    "Annihilating the PA and anyone with any sort of weapon, regain control of the West Bank, possibly pull out of all of Gaza (the latter is my personal opinion and does not go down well with others of similar opinions)."

    You cannot annihilate everybody with weapons without killing all palestinians. Thus regaining control can be hard. This has been proven over and over again in Vietnam, Soviet Afganistan campaign, Chechnya... If the whole populus is hostile to you, you cannot pacify an area unless you kill them all.

    "Enforce a limited population transfer of Arabs (and Israelis) in the West bank to a contiguous uninterrupted geographical area within the West Bank. "

    This sounds like ethnic cleansing. Isn't that sort of bad?

    "Impose an autonomy once there develops a political arab leadership whose main proclamation has nothing to do with slaughtering the Jews."

    Like they are going to submit to your screening their political leadership? Which self-respecting people would submit to such thing?

    Nope, it seems your only option is to make peace with them. However horrible that sounds.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Mar. 14 2002,09:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, we can win. By being decisive.<span id='postcolor'>

    Oh, almost missed this. What do you think would be the 'decisive action' in this case, that could win you the war? I'm very curious to hear that.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Mar. 14 2002,09:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can't make peace with these people - period.<span id='postcolor'>

    Right. I hope all israelis aren't as tunnel-sighted as you are.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Mar. 14 2002,09:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If a terrorist takes advantage of civilians, I have no problem with this. There's a war going on here and if I have to choose between them and me, it's them.<span id='postcolor'>

    But you have to understand that you can never win this war and neither can they. Even with all the fancy military equipment you have, you can not be victorious. For every palestinian terrorist you kill, the ten people who witnessed it will take up arms against you. Unless you physically eliminate every palestinian living in the problem areas, that is. Is that the road you want to travel? Do you know where that road leads?

    You have to agree to many of their terms. They have to agree to many of your terms. You cannot dictate unilateral terms any longer, unless you kill them ALL.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Mar. 14 2002,09:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Jewish blood is cheap.<span id='postcolor'>

    Looking at the bodycount, the palestinian blood is even cheaper. Whatever that means.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ Mar. 14 2002,09:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yes but you dont see the tanks just targeting the biggest group of innocent people they can find do you?  you dont see them just roll into a town and start murdering as many people as possable..<span id='postcolor'>

    The palestinians are suicide bombing civilians, because they do not have any other means to strike back at the moment. They cannot strike military targets, because they are too well defended. In desperate situations, people use desperate means. They will not surrender either, because it is not an option for them.

    You can compare this to the terror bombing of german cities during WWII. The allies didn't have any other means at the moment to strike at the germans, so they used terror bombing of civilians. There are no rules to war, when the war gets desperate.

    If the palestinians had tanks and planes and helos and the israelis had a few AKs, the situation would be reversed. You can only pretend that you're a noble convention-respecting democracy, if you have a load of military power.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Damage Inc @ Mar. 13 2002,14:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nah it isn't a real war. If they were in a real war the Palestinians would have no chance.<span id='postcolor'>

    The palestinians have the advantage that the israelis can't just go in and shoot every palestinian. That's why they still persist in this conflict, which is definitely a war.

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    The game engine is actually quite robust. I have made a mission, where you command a russian half battallion (two tank companies (10 tanks each) and a mech. infantry company (ten BMPs and about 80 infantry)) using user markers. You also have (commandable) air support and artillery strikes. Your task is to smash through a U.S. half battallion in defensive positions. I have a 1000 Mhz computer and the game runs smoothly as long as EVEYTHING is not visible at the same time.

    I made this mission, because I felt the game lacks continuity (you just jump from predetermined mission to mission) and I thought something resembling a dynamic battlefield would be nice. It's cool to see somebody else has thought of this too.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Gorgi Knootewoot @ Mar. 13 2002,11:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I must agree with Murda Inc.... When somebody commits suicide, he only hurts the people that are close to him. Most people commit suicide because they cannot deal with live. It is a hams... chickens way out.  sad.gif<span id='postcolor'>

    When somebody commits suicide, he hurts the people that are close to him, if he has any. That's right. And most people do commit suicide, because they cannot deal with life. But to call it a chickens way out is simplifying matters somewhat.

    You have to remember that nobody has any duty to go on living, it's a choice everybody makes every day by steering out of harms way. Religions have tried to control this by demonizing suicide, since it would suck if all the people giving money to church would suicide, now, wouldn't it? If somebody decides to suicide, it's just a way out for him, nothing more, since nobody can really claim that they wouldn't make the same decision if they lived the life the deceased did. We who are left behind are in no position to judge the deceased, we can only mourn him.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 13 2002,11:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">how funny, you never consider anything I say either, so please stop setting your European double standrards you low life mother fucking dick sucking piece of shit!<span id='postcolor'>

    Do I sense EXTREMISM here? Your fanatical belief in your beliefs mirrors exactly how the WTC terrorists believed in their beliefs. Guess it's not only arabs who can be so zealous. Oh well...

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 13 2002,11:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The man made history by being a complete fucking fool of himself? boy am I glad you guys dont write the history books.<span id='postcolor'>

    How simply must I put it? We are discussing that man's death in a frigging international discussion board! That's more attention than most peoples deaths get!

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 13 2002,10:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, it is a translation. We don't have the 'Sir' word in the Swedish military- you address somebody by his rank or by his rank + last name.<span id='postcolor'>

    I doubt they addressed you formally in that situation. I bet they used something like: 'bloody idiot' or something analogous to that in swedish. Privates don't have much respect for sergeants, you know.

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    Hey, the man was 59 years old. I don't know about his life or anything, but when he began to think widescreen televisions are sending secret messages, his life must have been filled with anxiety = hell. He caused a scene, had his time in the spotlight, then harmlessly shot himself.

    So what did he get? A long life and he got to go with a bang instead of a whimper. He also got out of his life, which had turned into a hell. What more can you wish for? Most of us make far lesser impression into the fabric of history.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 13 2002,10:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And what about the thousands of inncoents that would die if he nuked the U.S. or Israel?...you only care what inncoents we kill cuz your an anti-us piece of shit, you apparnetly dont realizse the effrect America has on all of your economies....if America was nuked it would very well concern you, more than likely you would lose your house, your job, and be looking at your econmoy going "wtf happened?" You saw what happened simply after 9/11..EVERY stock market in the world took a steep plunge. Imagine that on a scale 20 times greater, then see if it concerns you prick!<span id='postcolor'>

    Saddam is not going to nuke U.S. or Israel, because you are going to go there and kill a bunch of Iraqis hopefully including Saddam. So what would happen is not worth discussing. Anyway, he probably wouldn't do it in any case, I doubt he is that crazy. But that is not an issue, since U.S. is clearly not going to take that risk.

    I just pointed out what will happen and that is Iraqis getting wasted. Nothing more to it. No U.S. bashing. Just stating an obvious future.

    Personally, I don't care what happens to economy or whatever. I can walk away from my current life in ten seconds, no regrets. But I know most people don't think like that, so it really has no meaning to this discussion.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 13 2002,10:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well atleast in America we dont go nuts and kill people over widescreen television! And we dont rush soccer fields and beat the shit out of people over a fucking game. Our students may shoot other students, which is fucked up...but thats diffrent than rushing a soccer field and beating someones ass for no reason...atleast the children who shoot up their schools had psycological problems...it doesnt justify it, and the children are in jail where they belong..but they they had motive, not because their team lost..and atleast they were smart enough not to think that "secret messages" were being broadcast on the letterbox of widescreen television.<span id='postcolor'>

    Yep, I'm glad you don't have crazy people in U.S. Anyway, it remains to be seen when somebody somewhere is going to kill somebody other over widescreen television, since that nutcase in Amsterdam only killed himself.

    Whether students shooting students or football hooligans kicking the shit out of each other is worse, I don't know and I don't want to judge such things.

    And I'm sure U.S. doesn't have anybody who thinks 'secret messages' are being broadcast by widescreen television. Point for you, my man.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 13 2002,10:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well would you like to live next door to a guy making crystal meth in his garage? and if you were going to let him make it, wouldnt you want to send someone in to supervise him...to make sure hes not going to kill himself and you? Cuz thats kind of whats going on in Iraq ( not really a good analogy..I'm too tired to think, I'm sure some one will criticize me for it, but hey go ahead ).<span id='postcolor'>

    Funny coincidence. I actually helped one dupe I know to plan an organic synthesis scheme for crystal meth. It's pretty easy to prepare if you know what you're doing. As far as I know he got all the equipment needed, but I never got around asking him whether he actually succeeded in making the stuff.

    Anyway, last time I heard that bloke was enrolled in a mental institution. Guess those hard drugs are bad for you. biggrin.gif

    I'm pretty sure that Iraq is not going to nuke anybody but U.S. or Israel, so it doesn't really directly concern me. But sure as hell, when you go to take down Saddam, thousands of innocents are going to die. Just stating what will happen, nothing more.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (foxer @ Mar. 12 2002,17:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Soo you can say whatever you want about america,disagree with america all you like,but in the end when you need america they will be there.Probably some more too<span id='postcolor'>

    Believe it or not.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ Mar. 12 2002,17:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You people keep bringing up crap from the 40s and 50s,when there was absolutely shit known about the effects that nuclear weapons could have. Studies had started but results were not know.

    You'll notice that after the full effect of nuclear weapons was know the US stopped thinking about dropping them everywhere like conventional bombs.

    Jesus. Quit bringing up shit from 50-60 years ago.<span id='postcolor'>

    You just keep complaining how big a threat it is, if some 'nutjob' like you said got a hold of a nuke and blew it up. But so far history has not shown this to be a credible threat, since the only two nukes used in anger were cast by the U.S. You can say that you weren't 'enlightened' enough back then, but this doesn't justify anything. Otherwise it would be ok for those 'nutjobs' to blow up nukes, because they sure as hell are not very enlightened science-wise.

  23. Posted

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 12 2002,15:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I know what you all would do,first you pussies would would hide in your homes, cross your fingers, and think that everything would pass and you would ok. Then you would ABSOLUTELY ask the U.S. for help NO DOUBT about that! I hope you die in your sleep biggrin.gif<span id='postcolor'>

    Hhhmmm... I though all of YOUR people hid in their homes, crossed their fingers, cried, thought that everything will pass and you would be ok. Then you raged to the whole world how innocent YOU are and how bad THEY are. Mebbe we would do that also, I really don't know.

    Funny enough, it just occured to me that I recently read an article about this finnish woman who happened to be holidaying in U.S. at the time of the attack. She almost got wasted by the falling buildings, but anyway went on to work in a first aid point (without getting paid), because she had been a medic in the army. So she helped you yanks without even getting paid. Doesn't sound like hiding in homes to me. Argh.... whatever...

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ Mar. 12 2002,15:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Was 9/11 shown in Europe or anywhere else?<span id='postcolor'>

    You mean recently? Well, our belowed media that shapes our twisted minds did mention that the yanks had their 6 month celebration... I mean mourning of the little shit that went down in WTC. So yes we know.

    Anyway, I'd just love to know how the mighty U.S. would have reacted if somebody mowed four planes to Helsinki (our capital) and killed 2500 people. I'd also like to know how we (the finns) would have reacted to that. Would there have been a frenzy of self pity and a bunch of choirs singing Maamme Laulu on the streets?

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Murda Inc @ Mar. 12 2002,13:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The stupidity that plagues these forums still amazes me. Go ahead oligo, say I'm the stupid one wink.gif<span id='postcolor'>

    I don't need to call people stupid. It accomplishes nothing. I like sarcasm, but calling people names is just so out. wink.gif

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