Oligo

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 07 2003,09:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Israelis? This is a game designed by Hizbalah. Ask them. There are no Magen David's on a standard IDF uniform, for example.<span id='postcolor'> Avon, I was joking. I KNOW there are no David stars in IDF uniforms. I own an IDF combat vest (a robust and very roomy vest BTW) and there are no stars in that. I was just pointing out the lameness of the Hizbollah propaganda.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 07 2003,08:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Some 2nd Brigade troopers just blew up a statue of Saddam on a horse.<span id='postcolor'> Why do they blow all that shit up? The Iraqis could sell all those statues in eBay after the war to get some cash, just like the russians did with Lenin statues.

Why do those israelis always decorate EVERYTHING with David's star?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 07 2003,09:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Because you're encountering pure hatred in it's truest form, without attempts to massage the actual message intended.<span id='postcolor'> Obvious propaganda may sink well to arab audiences, but if they try to market the "revolution" to wider audiences, they should really learn how to write good propaganda. But like I have said before, the situation with Israel and her neighbours is an issue I would not touch with a twenty-foot pole.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DayGlow @ April 07 2003,09:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just hit the 'english' button on the top left.<span id='postcolor'> Seriously, I think I must be going blind, I didn't see that button. Anyway, I think that the Delta Force screenshots are there to show how unfairly the arabs are treated in western games. To see the screenshots from the actual Special Force game, you have to access them from the arab language website, for some reason.

What I don't understand is that why they use such obvious propaganda. If they had money to hire people to code a game, why didn't they hire professional p.r. consultants to make up good propaganda, like the western powers do?

No thanks Avon. I don't know arabic, so it would be a little hard for me to play it. Â I guess they got tired of all those games where generic middle eastern terrorists get mowed down by special force this and special force that. I wonder how well this game is selling... The screenshots in the website are... illuminating.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bernadotte @ April 04 2003,11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">[*]Do the allies plan to construct strategic settlements where hundreds of thousands of Americans and Brits can live in air conditioned luxury alongside poor Iraqi villagers?<span id='postcolor'> Should be a hit in UK. People could leave their foggy and cold island and come down to Iraq to get wasted and party. Cheap Iraqi poontang would of course be available.... Seriously, though, your sarcasm is nasty.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 04 2003,10:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For those defending the taste and quality of field rations, try eating them for a month and I'll assure you that your enthusiasm will have subsided.<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, I remember when me and Blaegis were trekking for a week. We ate only cook-and-serve pasta (three different flavours) for the whole time. Goddamn, I haven't been able to eat that crap ever since.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ April 04 2003,10:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">To me a traitor is someone who betrays his friends, as in, switching sides. This guy might always have been on the US side and in that case I dont think he should be called a traitor. Atleast not by us, but I could understand if Saddam loyalists did.<span id='postcolor'> This discussion is a little too academic. What I was trying to say: When that Iraqi ratted on the hospital, he knew that it would come under attack. In an attack, innocent civvies like the hospital personnel (who also might hate Saddam but are not doing anything about it because they want to survive) might get caught in the crossfire. How would these people feel if they heard that one of their own had sold out the hospital, even if his motives were noble? They would feel betrayed. Traitors betray.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ April 04 2003,08:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But watch it when you already have problems with your stomach attachments. Chilli burns twice  Not good when in hot surroundings and your body is already dehydrating.<span id='postcolor'> Actually, for hot climates where eveything festers with bacteria, chili is THE spice you should use everywhere, since it kills those little fuckers on a massive scale (that's the reason they use so much of chili in hot countries). Eating it considerably lessens your chance of getting diarrhea and other digestive tract infections. And it tastes good.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ April 04 2003,09:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am not sure I'd call this guy a traitor. As I gather, he wasnt a soldier and he wasnt in service of his country in any official way. He might have been on the US side since day one, and if thats the case I dont think he is a traitor. If my government took a turn for the worse and we got a Göran Hussein in power then I'd have no doubts about opposing him any way possible.<span id='postcolor'> Let's say that you and your buddies were working in Göran Hussein's office as, say, janitors. You would then sneak out of Stockholm to meet the Yankee troops knocking on the door of the aforementioned city and tell them that now would be an excellent time to raid the office and waste mister Göran Hussein. You also report the disposition of security personnel in Göran's office complex. You then sneak back and carry on as usual, but evac the place well in advance of the coming raid to fetch your wife and head to safety of the grateful Yankee troops. However, you could not tell any of your janitor buddies of the coming raid, since some of them might be informers of mister Göran Hussein. The raid comes and some of your janitor buddies are caught in the crossfire. The surviving ones, having heard that it was you who called the raid upon the place, will never trust you again.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 04 2003,08:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1) The airport isn't caputred. The Iraqis launched a successful counterattack this morning.<span id='postcolor'> Where did you get this? Reuters claims the counterattack failed.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 04 2003,08:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I can understand this, but I mean, come on. The guy betrayed Saddam friggin' Hussein. That's a little like a Russian busting a cap in Stalin's ass or a Cambodian wasting Pol Pot.<span id='postcolor'> And my point is that even if the traitors do good (from my perspective), I would never trust them, since they have the mind-set of a traitor. Who's to say he wouldn't bust a cap in my ass next?

When I served, I learned to carry a small pouch of chili powder with me. You can eat anything army throws at you when you cover it with enough chili. Besides, chili is antimicrobial, so you can eat even semi-rotten meat safely aided by a load of chili. Chili is beautiful. Just yesterday I had nothing in the fridge, so I took a tin of pea soup (leftover food from a camping trip) and spiced it up with minced tomatoes, chili, Worchester sauce (that's one beautiful sauce) and soy sauce. Quick heating and Voila! I got to say I really enjoyed that dish.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 04 2003,07:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And besides, he may have recognized the cruelty of Saddam's regime and decided that his loyalty to Iraq dictated that he help those who would destroy Saddam. If you look at it like that, he isn't really a traitor.<span id='postcolor'> By definition, he is still a traitor. Consider that U.S. taleban, Walker was he? He decided for himself that U.S. is evil and acted accordingly. Now you call him a traitor, which he was if you ask me. Likewise this Iraqi decided that his current government is evil and acted accordingly. This makes him a traitor. Personally I hate persons who betray and rat on people and I would never trust them.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 04 2003,06:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No joke lol. The world would be a better place with a few more guys like that.<span id='postcolor'> Just so long that you remember that traitors are liable to betray again...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ April 03 2003,16:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just look at how the Fins dealt with the invading russians. They were outmanned and outgunned, but definately not lacking in motivation and ingenuity.<span id='postcolor'> Finns also had the great advantage of shitty terrain and weather. Finnish forests are a cold and miserable place to make war in. Nice for camping, though.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 03 2003,16:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you manage to cut them of only for a few days, the results for those in the vicinity of Baghdad will be disastrous. No mater how much better the US troops are, there is little they can do without fuel, food and ammo.<span id='postcolor'> Let's see whether the Iraqis have enough will and firepower to make that happen. Probably not, but not a bad plan anyway.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Schoeler @ April 03 2003,01:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe we should have just said, "ah Adolf already killed 4 million, we can't go after him for his 'past sins' " back in 1943. Â <span id='postcolor'> Well, you did say: "Ah Stalin murdered way more than Adolf did, but who cares."

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ April 02 2003,12:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Flipper's new trick: Going AWOL<span id='postcolor'> Considering that dolphins have a considerably larger and more wrinkled brain than humans, maybe Flipper just decided he did not want to fight the wars of other species.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 01 2003,13:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ April 01 2003,14:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nice story you posted, Denoir. This liberation war fought by the U.S. begins to sound more and more like the liberation wars the soviets fought against us finns.<span id='postcolor'> Anyone have any statistics about how many friendly nation civilian casualties there were in WWII for the Allies liberating Europe?<span id='postcolor'> Not all wars of liberation were the same in WWII. Soviets tried to liberate Finnish workers, since we had an evil capitalistic regime in charge, which had repetitively used weapons of localized destruction against civilians in our civil war. However, it turned out that nobody in Finland wanted to get liberated (not even the workers whose brethren had been slaughtered by the regime in charge) and soviet liberators were met with bullets instead of flowers. The lesson here boys and girl is that people prefer to take care of their problems in-house and generally tend to see external liberators as invaders.

Nice story you posted, Denoir. This liberation war fought by the U.S. begins to sound more and more like the liberation wars the soviets fought against us finns. War is hell.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 01 2003,11:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From the Gadget of The Month Club:<span id='postcolor'> I wonder whether it can translate phrases as "camel jockey" or "towelhead".

We trained evading that threat as well. It's just that I have read this huge pile of military reference material (western material like Jane's but also russian, since Blaegis has a nice pile of russian literature on the subject) and nowhere have I seen a mention of this turret-turning feature. It's a real mystery.