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    The result of this is that in 2000, the election was close, it widened here, and the gap is only going to get wider as the Democrats continue to pervert and subvert foundations of morals.

    No the Republicans "continue to pervert and subvert foundations of morals." By banning Gay Marriage and mosy possible Civil Unions by creating a second Class citizenship.

    Quote[/b] ]Here's the real economic issue. Conservatives view humans and families as assets, Liberals view them as liabilities.

    LOL thats why they introduced the PATRIOT act so they can view there assets any time they want including when they talk to there lawyer.

    Quote[/b] ]Conservatives take care of the environment and encourage it's health because it helps us and it's our obligation. Liberals fence it off and chase out the people, leaving nature to rot.

    Yes Bush choped down forest because it was a potential fire hazard crazy_o.gif , also wanting to open up the Alaskan National Reserve for oil exploration, yes They really want to take care of the environment, 0r even the US being the worlds biggets polluter but not entering into treaties to reduce that, If you leave nature alone how could it rot? do you know nothing of how nature works?

    Quote[/b] ]Conservatives expect that you will be responsible for your self, and work to make provisions so you can take care of yourself. Liberals believe that you're not adequately capable of taking care of yourself, therefore you should more or less be a ward of the state on welfare.

    So buch party Bullshit, Liberals beileve that you should not be exploited and so are more inclined to look out for the individuals rights, unlike Republicans who only really care about the top 1% and where there next campaign contribution comes from.

    Quote[/b] ]Conservatives believe that opportunity and accountibility also extend into healthcare, in having the oppotunity to select providers eager to serve you and your business. While the so-called Diversity Experts among the liberals claim that people are all different, in reality they attempt to impose uniform generic medicine.

    Hmm rightso basically healthcare for those who can afford it right? Its a privalige not a right?

    Quote[/b] ]Conservatives also hold the moral principal of self-determination.  Everyone is entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, along with the oppotunity to vote against that or abstain from voting. Liberals use the ruse of prior ignorance or abuse to justify their continuing sociatal enslaving and manipulation.

    If people have the right of self determination, then why do you advocate the creation of second class citizens and denying the right to choose.

    Quote[/b] ]Conservatives believe that it is all humanity's imperative to better ourselves and each other. As Liberals view themselves as already enlightened, those who aren't along for the ride are inferior and thus are to be managed when willing, and disciplined when not.

    Pure rhetoric most liberals try and better oneself, there is a difference between being enlightened and being educated enough to scratch deeper under the surface of party rhetoric and spin.

    Quote[/b] ]There is a big difference in this rising young conservative generation. The hippies earlier rejected law and order and discipline. Today the 'rebels' are rejecting the self-aggrandizment of the self-certified intellectual establishment and questioning the validity and bias of their arguements. The difference is that we're not resisting lawlessness, we're looking for law and order, and we're saying the 2 and 2 you're giving us is not making 5 like you said it would. And when we ask why shouldn't it be 4, you get all huffy because 'how dare the students question the teacher'.

    Bollocks, Republicans,Conservativies,NeoCons whatever you want to call them, feel rules are there to keep order and if you break them for any reason whatsoever even if the rules are BS your stigmatise as a lefty commie or as they say now a terrorists, the right scares you into following the rules.

    Quote[/b] ]Well I can and do, and things are looking good for a good long time to come.

    Yea how is the Decline in Jobs, going from a surplus to a 500 Billion dollar deficit and the Trillion dollar National Debt going?

    Quote[/b] ]And what about the human shield / volunteer hostages that went to gaurd the AAA batteries dug into school playgrounds? What about their reports that they were moved to obvious military installations?

    never happened IIRC the groups wanted to go to schools but saddham wanted them by Strategic locations so they never went

    Quote[/b] ]When the military has their hands tied by those that wish to cut off those hands, they are restricted from competently fulfilling their mission, resulting in unneccessary casulties on all sides. If you go running out in traffic, who's fault is it if you turn into a road muffin? Not the driver's.

    Who has there hands tied? If your talking about the President and so forth i agree when they didn't give them enough troops to do the job correctly then i guess bush is to blame.

    Quote[/b] ]Where did the civilian casulties in Kuwait come from? If that war was about oil as folks claimed, then why is this war about oil if Iraq has little to no oil that they had to invade Kuwait over it?

    Iraq has plenty of oil, they invaded Kuwait because they beleived for many years that Kuwait was part of Iraq, maybe the extra oil was helpful, but iraq is hardly running dry any time soon.

    Quote[/b] ]What about the Scuds in Israel? Were the Israelis as a nation and people to be held responsible for American defense of Kuweit? Were the Israelis to be punished for defending the cause of nuclear non-proliferation by bombing Tuweitha?

    Kuwait*

    The scuds in Israel was to try and destabilize the arab coalition in Desert Storm/Shield, To be honest i don't get you point? was american responsible for defending Kuwait? I guess they that is up to the kuwaiti Government.

    Quote[/b] ]How many civilian casulties as opposed to military - if you divide the two - would have been lost had Saddam put a hotbox in one of those scuds?

    If we are talking Dirty bomb style war head then i'm guessing non really, the US Gov't and other Nuclear study groups found that Dirty bomb style weapons are highly ineffective.

    But if we are talking Nuclear Warefeads i doubt Saddham would ahve used the against Isreal, remember they do have Nuclear Missiles.

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    @ Nov. 04 2004,04:12)]
    @ Nov. 04 2004,04:10)]Maybe it's time we invade Europe once more but this time for our own interests  tounge_o.gif  biggrin_o.gif

    Just don't count on Europe's leaders sitting around reading The Pet Goat if you do.

    But rather to shut you up so you can stop forcing to impose your "morals" or "views" when your country has clearly imposed its rule on people involentarily in the past.... And really the US hasn't done any such thing.... So let us have our go at becoming a democracy which  allows for expansion of our Ideals and values.....Your colonial rule had already fucked up the world, yet you are just being hipocrits telling us that our nation is wrong. Yet in the past you followed some pretty fucked up way of ruling your colonies and look at them now? Africa is a mess, India and Pakistan are at each other's throats and the whole Asia minor area which once used to be under British control is in shambles..... Even prior to the 1st Gulf war. mad_o.gif

    HA HA HA HA HA

    So so hypocritical, read up on US foriegn policy and this is all the US ever does. Korea,Vietnam/Indochina,Iraq.

    Example One: US government during and after WWII tell it's Allies who have an Empire to basically give the countries back, so what does the US do they fund the French so there paying 80% of the war effort through Marshall aid in indochina so that the french can keep there empire in Asia. The french were fighting the Vietminh who were a socialist gurilla group fighting french imperial rule, but get this in WWII the US actively supported them because they were fighting the Japs.

    HA HA yea the us never do these types of things.

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    Does the ammo need to explode when it hits the ground??

    Would you prefer the landscape littered with duds? crazy_o.gif

    you can achieve the same effect by not having HE ammo, so when it does hit a tank it does alot of damage, just seems that the exlosions when it hits the ground are a little OTT.

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