Iroquois Pliskin

How is ArmA III on Steam NOT ArmA anymore? I'm pretty sure the bullet drop at 500 metres is still going to be there; I'm pretty sure I'll be able to gank someone with a TOW from 3 KM away. Modding "going away"? LOL http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/ - this was here before Steam in ES IV: Oblivion and it remains there. Sure, the ad revenues for the website owner have dropped significantly due to the efficient nature of mod distribution on Workshop, but apart from that - everything's fine & dandy, and Skyrim sold millions of copies and is a Masterpiece of a game. Thank you very much.

When times are tough, if you let irrational principles stand in your way, you'll never make a profit, what's more - you'll go bankrupt as an entreprise. I'd like to see ArmA III expand beyond 150 people, thank you very much.

QFT. People are blinded by their supposed superiority, which isn't the case as I've come to experience in MP. There are far better players out there that do no have a rigid mind and are open to new ideas and are not afraid of complexity in games - most of them play DayZ now, most of them haven't played ArmA II before, and some of them will be playing ArmA III. They are not found on these forums for the most part, by the way.

Steam is the most efficient in this case. They want to sell not 150 copies of the game to the same 150 people at launch this time, but a 100k at the very least. Frankly, the rage is coming from the same 150 people, who have not played any other games besides ArmA/OFP, and I do understand their point of view. Their point of view is driven by irrationality & emotions at this time, though. I'll take Steam over dead servers and lack of player user-friendliness in the multiplayer scene.

Where do you find these two companies in this thread? MadDogX, I have an updated impression: they are on 56.6K and have never played Half-Life 1, nor Half-Life 2 when it came out back in 2004, when Steam was truly a Steam-ing pile of poo. :cc: I'm out of this thread, not aiming to raise my blood pressure atm. :cc:

I get the impression that most of them are on 56.6k dial-up. Completely circular logic trying to find a boogeyman, where none exists - yes, having $5,000 worth of games on a digital library is insanity - ONE single game on Steam, that you know & love, that you've played for TEN years, TEN YEARS (have they played it for ten years even?) is not a sacrifice, but a reasonable compromise, if even that. In ArmA's case with regards to multiplayer experience, I'd say Steam is an upgrade. After the troubles BIS went through, yes I do believe ArmA III was at risk without the resources that Steam can provide.

Dedicated server and client will be on the same account. Launch Steam and check for Half-Life dedicated server files, which were available for download to anyone last time I checked.

Certain customer wishes can be ignored and disregarded, especially when the customer is ignorant of the internal situation in the company and of the reasons, which had prompted this very serious decision to go ahead with Steam. I could list you ten good reasons for ArmA III to go with Steam, although I'm an opponent of the platform myself. LOL, this has absolutely zero to do with anything Steam-related. P.S. Business works on trust, not fear. Multiple party exchange for mutual benefit - if either of the parties doesn't see a benefit in going ahead with the transaction, then no deal is made and they go their separate ways.

Erm... enjoy the game then? You people praise voting with your wallet, while forgetting that Steam is a multi-billion (or at least in the hundreds of millions of USDs) business and is not immune to lawsuits in the extreme cases, in the EU at least. They're not operating on thin air, please don't project your insecurities of whatever corrupt governments you may have in your home countries onto private businesses. :cc:

Funny thing that. I'd imagine Steam's out of game friends & server lists, chat functions, achievements etc would strengthen and enlarge the community. Knowledgeable people will be in demand, as newcomers come streaming in.

Depends, really. I think more influential developers can cut a more lucrative deal with Steam and split 20/80. :cc:

Possibly yes, a lot of games nowadays come with the box, manuals, artbooks... and no DVD - only a CD-KEY for Steam, Origin et cetera. :cc:

Who are you, exactly? You're not a customer of the companies that went Digital-only - that's for sure. A company may offer a product with specific "features", you can either buy it, or ignore it. Either way nobody owes you anything, and if similar decisions by this hypothetical company are going to be its downfall - then that's the company's business & responsibility alone.

I get you, but the economic circumstances and advances in tech force the path of least resistance at the moment and the trend will continue. I'd rather have Steam, than update vanilla for the 4th time and get the same Error after 40 minutes of patching per try. You pay for convenience, and believe it or not, in ArmA's case Steam is exactly that.

You won't be running just any "game", you'll be running ArmA III. I only have Counter-Strike on my Steam account, ArmA III will be a second purchase. Limiting your exposure to 3rd party software shenanigans is your own responsibility: whether by abstaining from purchase, or other means - it's upto you.

That's always a possibility with a lot of WHAT IFs. Don't assemble your whole gaming library on Steam then, just purchase ArmA III and enjoy while it lasts - which will be probably 2 to 5 years. Adapt or die, either way I don't want irrational people in my multiplayer Warfare matches, I'd rather take the new blood from Steam's alleyways.

It's not only about DRM - Steam provides a venue for epic PR work, its own forums, screenshots, achievement sections, sales, top selling lists, upcoming, pre-orders, discounted - ArmA III will be in most of them at one stage or another.

That's a lot of butthurt people in this thread re: Steam. I'd understand, if ArmA III had been canceled in favour of DayZ, but this is hilarious. Shows that Steam is a good platform to bring new blood into the series. If properly positioned, I'd bet the pre-orders alone could overshadow pre-DayZ ArmA II sales. Need moar video material on ArmA3Official YT channel, kthxbye.

Exactly that.

Possibly. ArmA II did use Gamespy as a host for the serverlists (or something), AFAIR. Steam provides better integration with a lot more server information, friendlists, JIP, in-game "achievements", among other things.

Definitely getting a PS4 myself - Sony's quality in Make-Believe entertainment has always been high ever since the launch of Playstation 1, which I used non-stop back in 1999. :cc: <3 Gran Turismo & MGS

Will probably be a HDD to keep the launch price within the expectation of current demand. Not many will buy a console for $599 (!), as PS3 had shown. And AMD has excellent APUs, especially the GPU core, courtesy of its ATi division - reaching the performance of current gen midrange discrete video cards. ---------- Post added at 20:56 ---------- Previous post was at 20:54 ---------- Wishful thinking on my part then. :cc:

Another article on PS4's PC interior - http://techreport.com/news/24387/sony-confirms-playstation-4-pc-guts "At a press event this afternoon, the PlayStation maker said the fourth incarnation of its iconic console will use a "supercharged PC architecture" built around an AMD processor with eight x86-compatible CPU cores and an "enhanced PC GPU." According to Ars Technica, the CPU and GPU components will share the same die and will be linked with 8GB of unified GDDR5 memory. Storage will be handled by a mechanical hard drive. Sony hasn't revealed the pedigree of the processor's CPU or GPU components, although it claims the latter is capable of pushing two teraflops—a little more oomph than the Radeon HD 7850. The memory interface purportedly delivers 176GB/s of bandwidth, which is slightly better than the reference-clocked 7850's 154GB/s. Keep in mind that the GPU and CPU will be sharing that pipe, though." This certainly could handle ArmA III. P.S. Per latest control scheme info, puzzle becomes clearer, though I would like to see someone use the ironsight on a target 500 metres down the range with a PS, or any other, controller. :cc:

Never lost my connection to Steam without losing the Net all together. :D P.S. ArmA III Pre-Orders will get a big piece of the pie, let's hope it's going to be up soon.

Well, that would be excellent - are the devs responsible for the hosting of the data, or does Steam provide the privilege as part of the deal?