HellToupee

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Feb. 03 2003,13:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">then why have these inspectors not found the smoking gun if it is under your nose, fact is theri is no evidence yo like bush claim iraq is hiding it and not coorperating, please use something you can back up not just opions.<span id='postcolor'> in 1998, weapons inspectors found these weapons. Then they were kicked out. Now, this is just common sense. Saddam would not disarm after going through a lot of trouble to get these weapons. but if you dont want to listen to this logic, listen to the people who have actually been there. who have actually worked on his WMDs. they've said he's working on these programs. you've got UN proof, and you've got defected Iraqis telling you their experiences. if that doesn't convince you then nothing short of a nuclear bomb will. And thank you very much for your support Tex. <span id='postcolor'> Im sure after 12 years of nothing we can expect 12 more years of nothing and more, lets say the US dose not attack and nothing happens what will you say then? What do you know about what iraq has all u have is claims and assumptions and no evidence and yet claim it is right there, i swear u could almsot be bush.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Feb. 03 2003,13:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The US is allowed to have nuclear weapons because we aren't going to use them in hat, we're more responsible than that. Saddam will.<span id='postcolor'> again plz use facts not just what u think or the media says, again why will saddiam use WMD? You credibilty decreases with every post, much like the US's evidence.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Feb. 03 2003,13:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And you blame the US for that? How about the fact that saddam isn't giving ANY food or medicing to his people? I understand that. But what do you think he's going to do with his weapons? You don't buy bullets to mount on your wall. He's going to intimidate and threaten with, maybe even use these weapons I cant speak for the Iraqis. But from what I've heard they're anxious to get rid of Saddam. But they've been exposed to more propoganda than I have. They haven't in the past and they're not doing it fully now. It's not non-existant. It's under your nose. UN inspections teams found TONS of WMDs in Iraq they they could NOT destroy. He has it, it's been found before, he's just hiding it now. [<span id='postcolor'> What do you know about not giving food to his people? i suppose the media says so, ill belive my iraqi friend than the media or you, will im sure the US donst by nukes to mount on their walls ither its the same reasoning, my iraq friend inst a saddiam supporter but he views the US as a bigger threat than saddiam to his country. As for him being exposed to more propaganda he has a much greater expence than you have u ever lived in a city to be bombed again and again i guess not, then why have these inspectors not found the smoking gun if it is under your nose, fact is theri is no evidence yo like bush claim iraq is hiding it and not coorperating, please use something you can back up not just opions.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (OxPecker @ Feb. 03 2003,12:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i can't believe you guys are still trying reason with fspilot. It is obvious he is a patriotic fanatic. You can't reason with him any more than you could with a Palestinian suicide bomber. <span id='postcolor'> heh jus look at his i luv bush avtar and sig

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Feb. 03 2003,08:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">may bee it was destroyed<span id='postcolor'> So you think that Saddam would spend lots of money on a NBC program, put his country at risk for breaking the UN rules, AND kick UN inspectors out of his country only to disarm voluntarilly? </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Y arnt we seeing the same drive to invade North Korea i mean they have invaded in the past.<span id='postcolor'> We're trying democracy first with North Korea. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have friends from iraq what you fail to see is people his age are drafted into the miltary to be blown to bits by bombers with no means of fighting back, it would be a turky shoot, and only serve to drive more people to the terrorest cause, <span id='postcolor'> Why would they blame the US for something Saddam did? </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you can remove saddium from power and replace him with a puppet to serve your purposes but the iraq people wont be happy about all their people that were slaughtered. U are proved wrong time and time again you so blindy belive yr countries propaganda.<span id='postcolor'> Saddams the one ripping the country to pieces. You seem to be under the impression that he's a good guy. You're the one buying into his propaganda. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont see saddium as a big enough threat to justify the amount of death an invasion will cause<span id='postcolor'> Because you're believing him over the UN's evidence. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What makes u think iraq after 12 years of nothing is suddenly going to start doing things that will guantee its destruction no,<span id='postcolor'> 12 years of nothing? 12 years of dodging weapons inspectors, working on WMDs, violating sanctions, violating UN regulation, and finally kicking weapons inspectors out to avoid losign his WMDs. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if u do invade you will force them to use WMDs if they have them which is what you think they do and that is stupid.<span id='postcolor'> Wait, I thought you said he didn't have WMDs? *sigh* WMDs will probably be our first targets in the attacks, and besides that he's not very capable of delivering WMDs militarilly. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The UN will decide the USA should respect that decision or be punshed if it dosnt the UN is their for a reason to stop this very thing you cant be all iraq dosnt do what the UN says when the USA ignores the UN to.<span id='postcolor'> Iraq is the one not respecting the UN. They haven't done it ever. Again you seem to think that Saddam is a good guy. He certainly isn't. And did punctuation go out the window tonight or what? </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think Europe understands perfectly well. I also think we have learnt, as opposed to many in the US, that violence always leads to more violence.<span id='postcolor'> Not going to war will not stop terrorism. We learned this from 09/11. The only way we can get rid of all these terrorist groups is to take them down as they come up. It's just that simple. I don't know how long this war will last or what, but short of giving into their demands and changing our major religion to Islam these guys won't stop. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Slant-drilling, eh? That's complete news to me. You wouldn't just be making that up now, would you? How 'bout posting a reference? I suppose the real explanation might be a bit technically challenging. Maybe we should just drop it.<span id='postcolor'> Or you could just look at the sources I gave you, like you should have. Or is that too technically challenging.<span id='postcolor'> whats ripping the country to peices is the UN santions their was a list posted of whats not allowed in now that showed just how bad they are. I do not think saddium is a great guy, but what u fail to understant time and time and time and time again is when u invade a country people die people like my friend, dont u get it do you think when they see american bombers comming to blow them up they are going to dance around in joy that the great americans have come to make their lives a better place? no, they hate them they blame the US for what was done to their country they belive in kuwait they were tricked into invading, try talking to one instead ti relying on the propaganda. Democracy with north korea aye y not iraq they seem to be coorperating so far. Beliving him over the UNs evidence no i am not its just the evidence is next to non existant, what will you say when the UN says no to an invasion which seems very likly at this point. As for WMDS being first targets of attack thats all very well apart from the fact you cant find any. As fro iraq not respecting the UN at the moment the US disrespects it more than iraq, iraq is coorperating and the US is saying it will ignore the UN.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JJPHAT @ Feb. 02 2003,20:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">GOD THIS IS SO DUMB....how about ALL OF US SIT ON OUR ASSESS AND WAIT for some terrorist drop a vile of Vx in one of your subways<span id='postcolor'> Dumb? u failing to understant a simple concept is dumb, the india pakastian is far more dangrous than iraq.

i dont see saddium as a big enough threat to justify the amount of death an invasion will cause, well lookin at afganstian it dosnt look like teh pretty picture u describe, maybee you should speak to an iraq and no listen to the media, do u think this will be invade shoot saddiam all over iraqs then love the US no it will be bomb iraqs invade shoot iraqs take over iraq and pump its oil. What makes u think iraq after 12 years of nothing is suddenly going to start doing things that will guantee its destruction no, if u do invade you will force them to use WMDs if they have them which is what you think they do and that is stupid. The UN will decide the USA should respect that decision or be punshed if it dosnt the UN is their for a reason to stop this very thing you cant be all iraq dosnt do what the UN says when the USA ignores the UN to.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Feb. 02 2003,20:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HellToupee @ Feb. 02 2003,135)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">how liky is that to happen is it worth killing thousands of people with no proof?<span id='postcolor'> No proof? What happened to all the proof the UN inspectors found in 1998? Or the defected Iraqi scientists? Or the fact that he's still not cooperating fully? Ugh.<span id='postcolor'> may bee it was destroyed, the US wont even give teh weapon inspectors time, y cant you see teh big picture this WMD talk is but excuses the chance iraq has or can make one is remote the chance they will use them is remoter, the fact iraq sits on a great % of the worlds oil makes them prime real estate, there hasnt even been proof iraq has terrorist links. Y arnt we seeing the same drive to invade North Korea i mean they have invaded in the past. I have friends from iraq what you fail to see is people his age are drafted into the miltary to be blown to bits by bombers with no means of fighting back, it would be a turky shoot, and only serve to drive more people to the terrorest cause, you can remove saddium from power and replace him with a puppet to serve your purposes but the iraq people wont be happy about all their people that were slaughtered. U are proved wrong time and time again you so blindy belive yr countries propaganda.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JJPHAT @ Feb. 02 2003,20:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Feb. 02 2003,07:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How many civilians will die when Saddam hands a terrorist a nuke?<span id='postcolor'> or just a vile of VX? The US has been fighting terrorism for the last 50 years, now it's been brought to forefront since 9-11, it is imperative we hit them hard, and hit them now before they can hit us. What is so hard about this? Ru getting angry because instead of going through every goddamned red tape there is, we are just cutting out the bullshit and getting straight to the point. Have you read nething no Arab History, Anything on the war of two cities, Anything on Desert Storm, Anything on the Kurds?....if you did you'd understand<span id='postcolor'> u will hit them hard u will hit them fast they will flee to another country and 1000s will flock to their cause when they see america bombing iraq to peices. Have u no thought for the people that live their for teh people that serve in its army, all it will do is increase teh anti US hate. Just what makes iraq soo much badder than the rest?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Feb. 02 2003,19:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How many civilians will die when Saddam hands a terrorist a nuke?<span id='postcolor'> how liky is that to happen is it worth killing thousands of people with no proof?

understand what? u dont need a 9/11 to understand that attacking iraq will result in more civilian deaths than in 9/11 the japanese would know of this quite well.

the whole point of the US investing money into europe was to stop communism from spreading, in the war ravaged state communist parties popularty was growing in countries like france etc.

its when u see what people belive do you really know propaganda works, shifting the blame from osma to iraq to making people belive hes ready to attack the US.

ooo ooo oo make one in NZ colours

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (InqWiper @ Feb. 02 2003,06:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Demolitions- Harnu Probably not, but I seem to be the only one in Mp games that intentionaly goes out and blows things to crap. Like enemy building, sneaking up on tanks, etc. <span id='postcolor'> I remember a CTI game where I was playing like a true blackop. Found the enemy base, killed one guard, got inside and planted a few timed satchels, got in theire BMP and headed out in the sea. They didnt like resapwning in the water I love sneaking up on tanks and placing satchels and stuff like that, sometimes is doesnt go as well as other times though <span id='postcolor'> yea cti is cool u wont find all the players hiding in bushes waiting for u, camping might be realistic isnt that fun tho and ild hardly call the situations realistic in a CnH or sumthing. The best player in my view is sum one who can do everything, a infantry aspect is a small aspect, when im infantry i like to be dedicated AA launcher or sumthing.

the question is could they of disarmed germany back then, ww1 was terrible most countries never wanted that to happen again, it would have cost massive amounts of destruction and loss of life to disarm germany when they started, it would have been less than later but they were desprate for peace, it took almost 6 years to defeat germany with russia, france great britian and its allies, and the US.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cybrid @ Feb. 01 2003,14:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What I wonder is how the anti-war nuts would act if we didn't go to war and then Saddam actually uses wepons of mass destruction and kills a signifigantly large number of people. What if the whole thing would have been avoided if we went to war. What would they say then? War is never and option?, I think its often inevitable however unplesent it may be.<span id='postcolor'> what would be funny if there is no war and absolutly nothing happens. Why would he want to use a nuke, giving the world goood reason to turn his country and all its occupants into a crater would be guranteed. What if the US gets a computer viruse that lanuches all its nukes now thats just as likly.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NavyEEL @ Feb. 01 2003,15:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and when the UN isnt doing its job...? coalitions have been wrong in the past, and just because the UN is an "alliance" of several countries does not mean it knows what's best. remember what happened last time a UN-like force sat back and let a country build up its military power illegally? what was that called? oh yeah, world war 2. well let's nip it in the bud this time so we can avoid another one of those.<span id='postcolor'> was teh UN around in world war 2? and ww2 well is iraq as power ful as germany dose it have millions of soldiers and is it more advanced than the rest of the world no, iraq is less a risk to the US than NK, iraq has not the means to wage war, there is no proof its done anything to suggest its gona declare war on the US. Sum quote a read, the US was 4 years late for ww1, tehy were 2 years late for ww2, for ww3 they are going to be there nice and early. One note with ww2 the US is more willing to go to war with iraq because its a threat than when germany declared war on its allies. This cartoon ahs it covered http://www.nzherald.co.nz/pics/r29malcolmevans.JPG

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NavyEEL @ Feb. 01 2003,14:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">4--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Feb. 01 2003,024)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Jan. 31 2003,23:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NavyEEL @ Jan. 31 2003,23:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Iraq is in violation of several weapons and weapons research agreements and has been for many years. They have refused to disarm and must now pay the price. They've had more than enough time to get their act together. Their time of defying the United States and the United Nations is over. Plain and simple.<span id='postcolor'> What the average war mongering American needs to consider are the words in italics. It is NOT up to The United States of Bush to decide it's time to go to war. It's up to the UN. Full stop. And thus Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and all the other warheads need to take a step back and let the UN decide when its time to act.<span id='postcolor'> Well said Warrin, couldn't have put it better myself. Just why do Bush and his cronies think they are above UN law? If they attack Iraq without UN sanctions then they are just as guilty as Saddam of breaking international law.<span id='postcolor'> the UN has had plenty of time... and they have turned over plenty of evidence. add that to the evidence the US already has, and it clearly shows that military action needs to be taken against Iraq. like it or not, these are the facts. oh, and yes i believe it IS up to the US and Bush to decide when it's time to go to war. last time i checked we were the only ones taking initiative and doing the dirty jobs that need to get done but everyone else is afraid to do. how about you present me some facts that military action is NOT justified? it has been proven time and time again that iraq is in the wrong and needs to be stopped. so rather than asking us to fork over more and more evidence, how about you give us some good reasons NOT to take down saddam?<span id='postcolor'> heres one reason, who will do the dieing it wont be saddam i can tell you that.

again i urge u to take note of this cartoon http://www.nzherald.co.nz/pics/ACFOAAAwaywo.JPG its my fav one

res runs ok for me on a gf4 mx440 390 ram and 850 mhz, it gets choppy with about 4 squads on screen, or a multiplayer map made by sum guy with a 3ghz cpu where i get unplayable fps. Any way ive been sayin im gona upgrade to 2000xp fo a few months now in a few months i just might.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Scanger @ Feb. 01 2003,13:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hi everyone, I really browns me off the amount of Anti-War campaigners here in europe, have people forgotten September 11, I HOPE NOT!!!<span id='postcolor'> no one has foggotton it, but how many people will die in iraqi that dont deserve it many many times more than sep 11 just like in afgan. There have been much worse than sep 11 in the world in the past.

last one i promise

i luv this guys cartoons another one edit: ralph :pic size > 100k also, please append to your old post instead of making new posts.