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Tex A laser guided bomb is more accurate than an optically aimed rocket. Akira Rockets are less accurate than LGBs. A rocket could easilly of missed while a small LGB could of precisely destroyed the entire house with no damage to anything around it. 500lb bomb could of done it.

This had better be a very, very early alpha. What kind of tank is that?

But your argument still falls apart. If they were afraid of civilian casualties they wouldn't of used CAS in the first place.

For all the people who still just can't get it: <span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'>I AM NOT CRITICISING ANYONE FOR CRITICISING TBA</span> Read that over and over again until you understand it. I am criticising the people who go through great lengths to criticise everything American troops have been doing overseas. Â Including shooting back at people who were shooting at them. Blaegis There were CAS assets used in this operation. denoir I don't know about you, but that doesnt look like an OH-58 to me.

I think the M1A2 is futuristic enough.

Tex Yes, that's right. So, in other words, "No they weren't hand picked by Americans, they were handpicked by the Bush administration!" Akira And I think you need to unplug your computer from the internet permanently.

I am -not- criticising anybody for criticising TBA. Who were hand-picked by Americans and are backed by the Americans. Gollum1 Stop the presses!!!

there's always http://www.freewebs.com/

Or maybe you two just suck at telling jokes.

tex Beacuse there's no way to tell the difference between your "ironic" commentary and trying to be serious, and shouting "fire" in a theater and being joking. I was using it as an example that you will go to unreasonable lengths to criticise what the US does. The current Iraqi government is mostly controlled by Americans.

Longingus People used to agree with me? Â When did this happen? tex You must be bad at telling jokes then. Â It looked like another honest-to-goodness stupidly irrational criticism to me. Do you go to crowded buildings and yell "Fire!" then expect people to take it as a joke?

You're saying it's a joke now? Trying to salvage another reputation? Let's look at this logically now If I said "I hate germans" on the internet, am I joking or not? Can't really tell can you?

Bn880 I'm calling you anti-American because you constantly criticise US troops for doing anything. Not because you criticise TBA. I even do that. Blaegis I see what you're getting at, and I still disagree. The US wanted these people alive. If they didn't they would of just LGB'ed the house.

I'm sure the order to get reinforcements went straight to the white house and got a signed order from Bush himself. But when we look at reality I'd bet the order to get reinforcement came maybe from one of the guys on the ground.

denoir To a normally biased person, sure. Yes, so they returned fire. They did it with a lot of soldiers as the US probably always does. They were shot at first, so they shot back. It's that simple. There's difference between disagreeing with someone, which is fine, and taking a reeeally far off stance that shows no logic just to disagree with someone, which is what you're doing and have done in the past. Ex-RoNiN So thats why he's criticising the forces. Not because of the forces, because of the government. The reason I think they're holding a grudge against US forces is because they always criticise every single thing they do. Now they're criticising US forces for killing people who were shooting at them. If you can't see how that's far off and illogical then I shouldn't be bothering with you. Criticising is good, yes. Criticising to the point where you have to take a walk to the moon to see where they're coming from is not. Did you just get here? Obviously you haven't been reading any of denoir's criticising of the US forces in the region, or in the world in general. And I'm saying this one last time: by saying "They did not return fire. They withdrew and came back with choppers and tanks and fired 20+ rockets at the building. Normally 200 troops would be enough to kill 4 people, but apparently they were not able to do it so they came back with more firepower." they were not criticising TBA, they were criticising US troops.

Hey, I dated a Canadian for a while. ... So Yes I am Anti-Canadian. j/k j/k of course (this ones already in that stack of FS quotes isn't it? )

I didn't even notice that. It does look horrible.

Blaegis Whether the operation was big or not doesn't make any difference. You can't prove to me that they wanted to kill those people. denoir They were returning fire. Once the 4 people inside started shooting at US troops the objective was to kill them, or at least disable them. Which is exactly why they didn't try to kill them until after they returned fire. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't risk my life or any of my soldier's lifes to capture someone who was shooting at us alive. Then if you have more than 3 brain cells you can realise that when US troops get shot at, they return fire. Ex-RoNiN There's a difference between being critical, and criticising everything the American forces do. Tex even criticised the US for not voting on removing Saddam's holidays! How can you not see the connection in that? Some of these people are only out to do one thing: criticise Americans. It doesn't matter if they're right or wrong, but they'll take whatever stance they can come up with against it, no matter how far fetched it is.

Yep, your pictures aren't showing up. From the website they look ok though. Nothing new about them. But why is the F-4's afterburner purple?

great movie, i love GI joe kind of hard to understand the guys speaking english with the german translator though, but the pictures were cool

I think you guys are misunderstanding what really went on, or at least assuming. As far as we know this issue started off with 4 soldiers getting shot at, calling in back up which turned into 200 soldiers and air support. It's not like they said "Ok, we know the hussein brothers are here, now what kind of nuclear bombers do we have on station"? denoir I think the fact that they were shooting back is sort of damning. Pure BS. The US troops don't care about keeping the guy who's shooting at them alive, and neither would I frankly. It's also BS to suggest that the US troops are conspiring to keep information on WMDs secret. You're really stretching it this time. I know you guys are anti-American and all, but this is just stupid. The brothers were killed because they were shooting at the US soldiers. It's stupid to suggest that the soldiers should of gone waltzing into the house with 4 suicidal gunmen in it who were already shooting at the troops.

Is it me or are they just re-releasing old videos? The Su-25 is old, so is the carrier trap

Ex-RoNin Let's tar and feather this anti-American terrorist!!! Anyway, don't look at this as celebrating a death of 4 people. Look at it as celebrating one more step towards peace in Iraq.

Didn't the Russians make their own version of that movie? "The Red Stuff"? sorry couldnt resist

For that part, solid rocket fuel is no better. Remember Challenger? I'd venture to say that most rocket fuel is volatile.