FSPilot

You guys are going to have to dig around at NASA to find mine.

Ok, I guess I'll kick start this up again. This is a fun thread.

I give up! Tell us!

I know it's the type of plane that crashed into Moreton Bay.

*does a little URL research* I think it'd be smarter to download, then attach the image, renaming the file if it contains the plane identification in it. After 4 clicks, I found that it is indeed an A-20 Havoc. *tries to sound smart* EDIT - I figured it'd be OK to post the answer, since someone already guessed it.

Look at this flying tank!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (zverushka @ Nov. 04 2002,21:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> We should refer this man to our gun safety thread.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 04 2002,10:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nah, then the school will probably make him see a councillor and call in his parents to talk about the violent videogames their son is playing <span id='postcolor'> http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/fsflight/opfpics/pics.html And I went through all that trouble! LOL, you're probably right though. But I'm posting the link anyway in rememberence of dear Larry, my war buddy from 1985.

How about you post some from OFP?

Looks pretty stupid if you ask me. Someone's trying to milk another tragedy for money.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/army_game021031.html Since July, the U.S. Army has quietly joined the video game business. Its new product, "America's Army," is hot. More than 950,000 users have already registered online, and countless others have obtained the video game from its many recruiting offices nationwide. Each player must first make it through boot camp, where they learn how to fire Army-issued machine guns and rifles. It's your typical basic training, and it's long before the serious play begins. The real fun, for most users, is in what the video game industry calls "the first person shooter." In the second half of the game, the player's point of view is that of a sniper staring down the barrel of a gun. The effects are designed to be so realistic, the screen moves anytime the digital sniper breathes. Player can play alone, or use their software to play with other "soldiers" on the Internet. The army reports that on any given weekend, more 400,000 players join it. And to state the obvious, the game has a level of violence, and is rated "T" for teens. Parents are Concerned Jack Thompson, a father and a Miami attorney is fighting the Pentagon. He says it's wrong for the military to unleash this game on America's youth. "I'm a father of a 10-year-old boy," Thompson says. "And every day I drop him off at school, I know that he's at greater risk because some of this classmates, as well as others in the general population, train obsessively in these shooter games." Thompson, who has represented the parents of children killed in school shootings, says he will file an injunction in federal court next week, if the Army doesn't pull the plug. "While the defense department was trying to find the serial sniper in the Washington D.C. area," he continues, "they were training new snipers to take their place." Of chief concern to some parents is the price of the Army's war game. It's free. It doesn't cost kids a dime. And, it's "cool," because it's the real deal. Who knows more about real combat than real soldiers? David Walsh, of a media watchdog group called Media and the Family, says that's a dangerous recipe for young teens. "It isn't the blood that's just a concern," Walsh says, "It's putting kids in the role of being shooters and snipers." Army: Real-Life Situations The Army admits its game is popular and that it targets teens. But military brass say they only intend to recruit, not teach. Lt. Col. Casey Wardynski, who came up with the idea, says the Army has long needed new ways to reach young people. "We don't train you in the game," Wardynski says, "[instead] we show you what our training looks like and show you what our units look like, and what the opportunities are." "The idea," he continues, "is [that] then [teenagers] can go off and if they find that interesting, they can do more research and more exploration and arrive at the doorstep of a recruiting station." The Army points out several key differences between this game and the bloodbaths that are more popular in the video game world. For one, a soldier never gets away with killing innocent people, and he loses points for breaking the rules of warfare. A soldier's actions could get that soldier sent to jail or kicked out of the game. At which point, the player would have to create a new identity, and repeat basic training. The Army says that unlike most video games, this one is more "real," with real rules, in real-life situations. But for some families, it is still too real.<span id='postcolor'> This is just stupid. Â ABC news is obviously milking the current issue with the sniper for a quick story. Â ALL games are like this. Â Granted, not as realistic in one aspect (the breathing, that's just about it), but they all involve shooting. Â At no point in this game does it instruct students how to shoot in the game, or in real life. Â These accusations are simply false. Â They're being made by overprotective and overconcerned parents, and being exploited by a news program for ratings. At least in my opinion. Â What are your thoughts?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jinef @ Nov. 03 2002,19:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i went to New York in the summer to see some relatives and although New York is going to have more flags obviously, i still felt that it was overdoing it. on a twenty minute trip i counted over 400 flags!<span id='postcolor'> Did you really spend 20 minutes counting 400 flags? I think it's good that people are showing patriotism. And of course people are going to get upset and say "this is overdoing it" or "why werent they showing patriotism before 09/11", who cares what they think.

Technically, if you drive anything off an edge it becomes airborne. LOL Still, neat video though.

I just tried that Mafia game. It's a LOT of fun. Granted, it's KINDA one of those overhead games, but it's still good. GREAT graphics, GREAT sounds, GREAT gameplay, BETTER THAN GREAT plot. I'd buy it if I weren't cheap.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jinef @ Nov. 03 2002,08:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But then again i don't think guns should be widely available to the public in America.<span id='postcolor'> You know, your country (Great Britain, I assume) is the reason we carry handguns.

Bah, that was not the greatest game. I try to stay away from overhead view games (don't know what they're called). I just really think they're dumb. They remind me of those sliders where you're in a spaceship and you have to blow up asteroids. Good graphics, bad AI, OK sounds. Gameplay was that of a slider. lol

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USMC Sniper @ Nov. 02 2002,02:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">still 30 mins waiting tho.<span id='postcolor'> *downloads in 6 minutes with DAP and a cable modem* This is going to be a cool game. Thanks for the heads up.

Site seems to be down now. It's www.americasarmy.com I believe.

Say it once, say it twice, a million times... http://www.funny-funny-pictures.com/song/song.swf

I go hunting plenty, I love it. It's great bonding for me and my Dad, plus it gives us an excuse to meet up with family and go hunting. I took a hunters saftey course once in New Jersey (a VERY unfriendly state for hunters) and it wsa some BS, mostly common sense. Example... class and textbook = Once you're in your treestand, tie on your harness. teacher in field = once you're in your treestand, load your gun. I don't want to undermine anything, it's good that you got your liscense and you should follow what you were taught and all, that just made me kinda mad. remember to use common sense too. lol

It's essentially the same thing with airplanes. Almost every system has a backup (I hear they even have two engines on some planes nowadays ). Not only am I considering safety, but what is your sergeant going to think when he sees you staring down the barrel of your own rifle? Magazine or no magazine. lol Food for thought.

Gun safety conversations definately shouldn't involve failsafes. Let's take a look at that word: FAIL... and then SAFE. In other words, when safety fails, this should help you. Gun safety is being careful with a gun, keeping it pointed downrange and so forth. Not relying on magazine disconnects or the "safety", if there ever were a one-word oxymoron.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NavyEEL @ Oct. 31 2002,02:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you guys are dangerous! Â i still love the "iceman: the later years" spoof from saturday night live where iceman is a commercial airline pilot lol.<span id='postcolor'> LOL! I have to see that! In most parts, top gun is more entertaining than realistic (something I look for in movies ) But it's a GREAT movie. Love the tomcat.

That's why I wanted to have another person the first time, to detonate the charge or take the picture.

I think it was my science teacher who quoted "Do not shirk! Do your work!"