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My point was made long ago.

Too bad a lot of the aggressiveness does not seem to relate to 9-11. And how the hell are we supposed to find bin laden? I can already imagine the elite 19-year-old special jaeger conscripts patrolling the pakistani border looking for al-qaeda operatives.. EDIT: And come to think of it, this is the 21st post since the last even remotely on-topic post on this thread, who would have known.

I neither think apocalypse now as a war movie really, it just has a military backdrop. My main beef with it is the way too long running time but then again I have only seen the extended redux-version.

And this is relevant why..?

Im sure they can find another quran-toting beardy guy to demonize.

Somebody just missed my point by a kilometer.. again. The bleeding point is that the aggressive foreign policy of the only superpower in the world has far-reaching results to everybody. I just took that up as an example.

That means that if you start invading other countries it does concern the rest of the world quite a lot actually.

Well, guess it would depend on which source you ascribe. In the documentary I watched, and some of the books I read, and what I happen to believe, is that he did in fact in the end worry about his people..."his children"...and his country. What ruler wants to see his country destroyed and his people killed no matter how nationalistic? Through the war and post-Hiroshima, he was very concerned with the Emperor retaining power, and the belief that it was better to make the enemy pay. Post-Nagasaki (and in part because of the effects of the Tokyo bombing) this view changed, and it was at this point that the military dictatorship was destroyed. No answer is an answer is it not? Well, 3 days is kind of a short time to decide on a fate of a nation. Personally I think the main reason for their surrender was the fact that the soviets were on their way (and the could not care less about casualties) and the emperor knew in order to save his very own arse he had to surrender to the americans. Also seeing the effects of nuclear weaponry probably made them see US military stronger than the soviet one.

Depends on whichever came first, I am not one of those who enjoy paying for the privelege of waiting. The whole idea of making payware addons for a 4-year-old somewhat obscure game is just plain batshit insane.

Did'nt you just say something about unreal stories?

Get over it.There is a thread with differing opinions from yours so "It must be locked!". Gimmie a break. So start a thread that actually relates to that. The last posts have been Iraq (obvious?), flaming, gas prices and effects of modern warfare. The if-it-was-today-blah-blah-liberals-blah has been already covered at least 2 times (think there was a third but im not wasting any more time on this): http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....wo;st=0 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....=nelson Or maybe the evil clique decided to force the mods to insert those posts there right? Why do you care about American politics? Your finnish it isnt really effecting you directly. Also dude just because a thread has opinions you dont agree in it doesnt mean it should be locked. So keep that in mind before you start saying "Why dont the mods put this thread out of it's misery?" Are you actually reading my posts? Im saying the thread should be let out of it's misery since it really has no real topic anymore and the same shit has been posted many times over. Feel free to start a proper thread about media's effect on war, I won't demand it to be locked. And it does NOT concern only americans when countries start to get invaded and stomped over like that. Iraq is hell lot closer to us than you geographically. Hell, I could walk 500m to the nearest pizza joint and go talk with some kurdish refugees from Iraq about this if I wanted to. The US is the sole superpower of the world, and as long as it maintains this kind of interventionist policy it DOES concern the rest of the world.

There actually were german pilots who demanded to have suicide missions. The germans were also planning to produce a kamikaze plane (luft46) but they simply got bombed to hell before they got to producing those. Some of the more hard-core units like those brainwashed hitler jugend kids or SS remnants were really tough nuts to crack even though very poorly armed and not properly trained. The german one was sunk so no go. The navy took some really heavy losses though and many were sent on clearly suicidal missions. Well, I give you that. So why did he surrender in the first place? Im sure they had some random commie spy they just sent over there with a camera than rely on some news reports. Odd, I recall reading that they didn't get a reply, must double check on that.

Get over it.There is a thread with differing opinions from yours so "It must be locked!". Gimmie a break. So start a thread that actually relates to that. The last posts have been Iraq (obvious?), flaming, gas prices and effects of modern warfare. The if-it-was-today-blah-blah-liberals-blah has been already covered at least 2 times (think there was a third but im not wasting any more time on this): http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....wo;st=0 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....=nelson Or maybe the evil clique decided to force the mods to insert those posts there right?

Mainly laughing at the utterly ridiclous idea that the current US leaders would be one bit afraid to violate national sovereignity if it meant capturing the main man himself.

And bombed what? Why did Nagasaki have to be spared? Maybe they should have waited a moment more after hiroshima? Umm.. didn't they kind of wanted the soviets to know how big and powerful their weapon was? How the hell they could eventually cover that up in a country with more than hundred million people? Considering that they already had been showing signs of wanting to end the war id say a demonstration in some less populated area would have had a similar effect. Germans had plenty of similar plans of distributing weaponry to the civilians and see them fight to the bitter end but nothing came out of it.

If the soviets had nuked Berlin in order to save their own troops we would still be hearing about that tragedy. (and probably from the same people who keep defending the hiroshima/nagasaki ) Or god forbid if the nazis had done something similar they would have been hung twice and nobody sane would have defended them. Why not detonate it in some remote area and tell japanese goverment that tokyo will be next unless they surrender? Or the US could have accepted the japanese surrender on some conditions regarding the status of the emperor.. Or they could have at least spared Nagasaki for god's sake. Anyways, censoring news reports and letters obviously are not the same since this report most certainly was not a security risk, just a political one.

Girlfriend missions are optional unless you really want those suits and get to keep your weapons after dying/getting arrested..

Quite an odd way to say "censored."

Do you think the consumer price is any kind of indication? Oil companies are making nice profits nonetheless. I still wonder why the mods won't let this thread out of it's misery already.

You mean Russians. they arent called Soviets anymore. Now back to the subject at hand,Now a days the USN could prolly throw a real beating to both the Chinese navy and Russian navy esp. the Russian navy. I think the proper word is soviets since we are talking past things right?

Just watched the beast of war, pretty good but quite unknown at least in Europe.

Well, we seem to have different ideas on when it is justified to burn people to death so ill leave it to that. Ford factories kept working day and night in europe and probably profited from slave labour. Henry ford was a vicious anti-semite and adored hitler (the feeling was mutual since it was Ford who had given him 70k USD campaign funds during his early days) openly until he was practically forced to shut up. His son was sitting in the board of I.G. Farben for god's sake. Even after the war he didn't give away the highest award hitler had given him. IBM's punchcard machines were used by nazis and the corporation did'nt seem to mind much but it is uncertain if they had any control over their german operations beyond 1937. Many people die when "defeat is not an acceptable alternative," if everybody would have had that kind of mindset starting from korean war we might be trying to survive in a radioactive wasteland and not talk shit on a discussion board. Without media oversight US military might have not bothered to get smart bombs, stopped using dangerous chemicals and had been more discriminate about killing civilians. I'm not putting all the blame on the media. The citizens of the western nations are equally to blame, they are the ones who gobble the shit up. You go ahead though and blame the nasty military. Just like every other naive soft westerner. Blame military for what? Im mostly blaming current failures on certain trigger happy politicians and certain greedy companies. I compare it because if the west today can't cope with an "insignificant" skirmish like Iraq, then they sure as hell can't cope with a real war with a nation like North Korea. How do I think the west would react? I'm sure they would place sanctions for over a decade which the offending nation would ignore, then a few nations would step up and go to war and promptly sue for peace after just one day of batte in which thousands of troops died. If the shit would really hit the fan today media would'nt even get to react until the nukes started raining.

It took less time to get western europe and japan up 'n running than some 3rd world shithole?

Assuming this was actually funny (which it is not) it has already been posted - twice. If there had been proper oversight by the media back then we might have avoided such glorious moments like reducing Dresden to smouldering pile of rubble, letting off monsters who commited atrocious experiments in concentration camps, letting big corporations trade with the nazis or interning everybody with japanese ancestry. Yeah, go ahead, just blame it all on media just like every other wacko.