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I'm sure it's just written that way for marketing reasons. I would assume it's exclusive to the 505 box just because it isn't in the Czech or German version. I can't imagine HAVING to buy the game 2x just to get content that should/could have been in the original release.

I thought the corner bug was removed with the 1.02 patch? And maybe your right about the crouch bug. I thought that if you were in a crouch, got up and moved you then went back to a crouch when you stopped. I didn't play the last 2 days, only edited so my memory of it is gone already.

I would think that a patch will be needed to get the current versions up to the 505 version, and I would hope that the "exclusive" content would be available to the thousands of beta testers they have right now as payment

Those aren't bugs.

I still like the VBS slow jogging anim better though. Edit: Also has anyone looked in the animimations pbo and looked at how the new ones are coded? Yikes. Lots of work if you want to edit them it seems. Not like OFP.

That's already an official work in progress that BI is supporing! But it's still based on this engine.

You know your probably right, but man the feck up and either switch games, switch playing style or mod it yourself and don't come crying because YOU don't like the direction this SIM has went in. This is THE game for CO-OP. You want run and gun get something else. Also you can kill players online without stooping to play CTF or DM.

I'm speechless. Must be my old age. This is why I've lately began ranting about the evils of CTF and why it should go the way of the Dodo. Everything you've pointed out seems like a plus in my book.

Maybe it's just a play on the expression "Elvis has left the building."

With a joystick and some practice you can do most of those maneuovers with the new flight model. And I agree with feersum. This is an infantry simulator with usable vehicles and aircraft. This isn't FSX with usable infantry. I would have been ok with the old flight model, but with the new patched version I'm fine if they never touch it again as right now, for a FPS, it's good enough.

Yes, I'm very close minded, and an egocentric brat. I wasn't speaking of everyone who plays CTF, only those bitching and whining about how their CTF gaming seemed to be taking a backseat to CO-OP for some reason. It stongly feel that CTF is the worst possible use of this game. It's like buying a Porsche to drive to pickup your mail. You can play CTF in every single other FPS out there, why the hell someone would want to water down what this sim can do to play CTF I'll never understand. This really is the only good game I can think of with strong CO-OP possibilities. You can play CTF with any game

thats what I'm working now. I was hoping to finish it today, but it looks like it will be another day or two as it's taking longer than I thought to do it "for real" rather than just a quick retexture.

After reading this thread I went and tried out a bunch of units on the default island. I sat on a small hill with a bunch of civs a couple hundred meters away for target practice. I tried almost all the weapons and stances and never saw this problem at all either. In burst and auto fire I was getting the dispersion I knew I would, but not the "bug" thats being described. It all seemed fine to me. Edit: And this is with the German DL version patched to 1.02 and with the english patch installed.

Thats Ridiculous BIS let us make an Editor Update Addon for OFP.. so why not ArmA, id rarther have an addon than to do all this patching I agree... I call BS here.

I have the Morphicon DL version and the patch worked fine. I had modified addons all over but not all were backed up so I reinstalled and patched to 1.02 with no problems. Then applied the german to english patch. I got the file Arma_GermanPatch_102.zip here http://www.gol-clan.net/ Worked fine.

I'll make a new one tomorrow and actually have a readme and a mod folder install Yeah those 2 new pics are just my playing around trying to make SADF Recees. I'm still just toying around with ideas now. I will probably not work on a Tonal idea for long time and will get my feet wet in ARMA modding by helping out the SADF mod. But I'll make a new upload for 1.02 hopefully tomorrow. OR Just a mission template with all the units using african faces. May be a better idea than modding files when you can just set the faces in the missions. There are about 20 african faces in there now.

I'm loving this patch. I've spent the last couple of hours just flying the helos. I'm using a MS FF Sidewinder 2 and I honestly love how they feel. The MI is like flying a bus and the stick is very stiff while flying the KA feels very smooth. I love how you have to think about flying now and how you can't just jump in and go without ever worrying about crashing. I haven't tried it with just the keyboard or mouse and keyboard and don't ever plan to now after having so much fun flying with the FF stick and a 3.5k viewdistance with the settings below. I'm not sure if it was the patch or some settings I adjusted after reinstalling and patching, but this game is silky smooth on my new machine after the patch. It was good before, but it seems much better now.

ok then

That's bad as I don't think you should have to reinstall for each patch when your only given what... 3 installs with the DL version?

I haven't looked at anything other than that link, but is the german patch the same for both the cd and the online downloaded version?

Well it looks like Tigershark is wanting to get a Arma Tonal going, so eventually you might see a Tonal island for Arma. I agree that it feels really close.

You weren't a good enough salesman I bet Blackdog could have sold me on the copter though.

Wait, wait I was just kidding!

Oh God, not you again I enjoy large maps because over the last 6 months or so the only missions I really played were DMA Dynamic campaign missions where you actually used the entire map. It's all about the freedom to choose. In games like GRAW you have no choice. I love that game, but games like that are so limited in scope it isn't funny.