Cybergangster

Back in school I managed to bring down the entire network in the IT block by tampering with my workstation. Â A lot of students lost their unsaved work. Â Only me and a friend knew I had done it. Â He said I was a regular Cybergangster... 'Bout 2 months later our school got online (1994) and I decided to use it in my first chat room (sierra.com I think)... The rest is history.

Oh, this is real sweet. I just went to puchase a download version from CM and they only have the CD-ROM available!!! Way to try and squeeze a couple of extra pounds out of us CM!!!

Now don't get me wrong here. I think BIS have done an excellent job to bring us such an original game as OFP. However.... I've got some issues with having to upgrade. First, I don't mind ultimate upgrades, they improve performance and add plenty of extras to make them worth while. But why is it when I wish to perform a clean install up to upgrade 1.3 that I must first upgrade to 1.2? Couldn't BIS have taken a little extra time to create an update that would allow non-US users to go from version 1 - 1.3?? It seems unfair that I am forced to take extra steps when really I am the same type of consumer as those you would find in the US... That leads me on to a dig, aimed more at Codemasters. I have registered my version of OFP with CM. Couldn't they at least show some appreciation by sending the updates out to registered users on a CD? Just some thoughts...

End of November, I think...

Alas, it is sad but true. I have yet to experience the joy of OFP MP One day I'll learn to hack the firewall at work then.... we'll see...

I tried that, it turned nasty when I climbed too late and made like a bulldozer through the ground...

I tried that, it turned nasty when I climbed too late and made like a bulldozer through the ground...

I know I'm beating a dead horse but I think you missed my point. I never said I'd download a fix for the car. I said I'd pick up the parts for the factory outlet. I used this example to show that it would cost me a) petrol and b) time. To download a patch it costs me a) internet time (which we have to pay for in the UK) and b) time. Are we clear on that?

Funny, I finished this mission with ease the first time I did it. The 2nd, 3rd, 4td.... 20th... it was harder than I first thought. I found a gunho approach works best. Â Switch weapons to FFAR and switch to manual fire. Â Fly up the road about 20ft above the ground directly at the convoy. Â Then fire like mad, just make sure your last shot hits the Shilka (always the last in the convoy). Â Then make another pass and clean off any strays. Â About then switch to 30mm cannon and disable manual fire. Â Let your gunner deal the business to the Hind (I've never had trouble with the SU25) and then remove the last of the convoy. Â Head back to base and watch the sunset with a cool glass of root beer. Â (Edited by Cybergangster at 11:12 am on Nov. 23, 2001)

Funny, I finished this mission with ease the first time I did it. The 2nd, 3rd, 4td.... 20th... it was harder than I first thought. I found a gunho approach works best. Â Switch weapons to FFAR and switch to manual fire. Â Fly up the road about 20ft above the ground directly at the convoy. Â Then fire like mad, just make sure your last shot hits the Shilka (always the last in the convoy). Â Then make another pass and clean off any strays. Â About then switch to 30mm cannon and disable manual fire. Â Let your gunner deal the business to the Hind (I've never had trouble with the SU25) and then remove the last of the convoy. Â Head back to base and watch the sunset with a cool glass of root beer. Â (Edited by Cybergangster at 11:12 am on Nov. 23, 2001)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">my post show that asking for a CD because some one thinks they are OWED is not justifiable<span id='postcolor'>If my car was broke, the company would fix or replace it. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">where have I famed you? <span id='postcolor'>I was referring to other users - SpaceAlex - you know who you are... :cool:

You know, it does pay to read posts before you reply with verbal vomit.  No one has complained about having to download.  We've just pointed out it would  be nice to recieve a CD with patches. BUT, before you flame me again, remember I've already given in to the dark side of the force. Oh, and I will take you up on that CD when we recieve the last official patch. (Edited by Cybergangster at 10:14 am on Nov. 23, 2001)

Okay, I know I'm coming about in a full circle Buuuuut.... Why register your product if there are no benefits? :confused:

- Malboeuf THANK YOU! At last, an intellectual, thought out answer. Pitty you had to degrade yourself with the 'get a life' comment. But on the upside you have convinced me that perhaps I am expecting too much. I do still feel robbed at the fact that I must download two patches to get up to date but alas, if this were a perfect world...

Phew, thank you Projekt K for taking time to read my post and answer with some thought.There seems to be a problem on this forum that there are too many angry teenagers who are just looking for a chance to flame. I too have costly dial-up from home. To my consession I do have broadband access at work which works fine for me to obtain the updates when they arrive. Now, I have not suggested that BIS replace the free downloads with an update CD. Certainly keep the updates available online for free downloads. But as a bonus for users who take the time to register send out a CD as well. It doesn't have to be a CD containing every update. It could be one CD released with all of the updates when CM releases Red Hammer??? Mr Laggy - Sierra have a policy with the Half-Life updates where they release a "mini update" which goes from the most recent version to the current and they also release a full patch which updates from version 1.0 (I think the latest FULL patch is 80Mb). Is it so hard for BIS to take similar action? As for my question on why OFP was released 3 months early in Europe - any answers??

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This Bug (Crash to Desktop) happens not just with the SpecOp (Laser) but with the Laser Designator in the OH-58 Helicopter too. So I think it's a bug inside the code of this laser designator generally.<span id='postcolor'> I experience exactly the same occurance...

- SpaceAl The car was an example. I could have compared the software with a stereo if I chose. It's to bring things into perspective. Now, my only gripe with BIS is that they make European users upgrade twice to get to version 1.3. Why couldn't they have given us a separate patch that skips 1.1 and 1.2? Sure, we got OFP early but why was that? Did BIS simply want Europe to BETA test this product? Now my suggestion for the upgrade CD was not aimed at BIS but aimed at the publisher - Codemasters. And as I said, sending a disk to registered users would discourage piracy and that means more dosh for BIS who can invest it into further improvements which we would then get on our CD updates which encourages new users to register, so on and so forth... As for a company that offers so much support - this game is only 6 months old and we've had 3 major updates to get things right. Are you say this is the code of practice all software developers should follow? And why are you getting so worked up? I feel like I said you were gay or something...

- SpaceAlex Say you purchase a car. It's a nice car and runs fine. Then you take it onto the highway and find it won't go faster than 40Mph... You also find that the radio only plays so loud. Then the car company releases the US version of your car and that version can reach 60Mph and the radio is fixed! You're told you need to go to the factory outlet and pick up the parts to fix these problems and install them yourself. Fine, so you take a 3 hour trip to the factory and spend 30 minutes installing the parts. All the while you would have preferred to have spent this time cruising with the radio up... Then the company announces another addon that makes the car go as fast as you want and adds seat warmers. You don't need these but it would improve performance. So you make another trip to the factory and pick up the appropriate parts and spend an extra 30mins installing those... Now, one day you clean your car and find you need to reinstall all of the parts again (maybe they don't react well with water or something). You know that if you had purchased an American version you would only have to spend 30 mins installing the extra parts. But alas, you got a European version and it takes about an hour to get everything refitted. Now, wouldn't you rather have had the car company post the spare parts out to you to save at least 6 hours of your time - AND wouldn't you rather not have to reinstall everything each time you wash the car??? It's about customer service my friend. Why should I have to go to extra efforts to make up for a product that was released with bugs? Just answer that...

No, I still disagree. Especially when you consider we bought a buggy product. As a show of dedication to their user base CM SHOULD release bug fixes on to registered users (Microsoft - PAY ATTENTION). This would probebly also help discourage purchasing pirated copies. I DO agree that the downloads should also be smaller. I can access broadband only because it is available at work. If that was not the case I would be further muffed by not recieving a CD.

Oversoul - I like that scene. And then after when the forest is burning from the aforementioned firefight we can't get a shot of a little baby deer running through the forest calling 'Mommy, mommy" and pan to Bambi's dead mum being dragged back to camp for a hearty meal.... give me a break...

Why? Want a sheep to cuddle you in the heat of a firefight :o

I'd agree with female civilian units but I don't think women where serving in combat until the Gulf War. Am I correct in this assumption?

I got fed up and I hadn't bothered to look at forums like this yet so I just cheated 'Endmission'.... might go back and do it properly someday...