Aculaud

as most of us know from being the game junkies we are, the Barrett model 82A1 50 caliber sniper rifle is a good choice for long range afairs. I think its place in OFP would be perfectly acceptable as an alternative to the m21, and in a pinch, it might even be effective on APCs. it would even be historicly accurate to the game, seeing as how the inception of the M82A1 occured in 1982 (the game takes place in '85). So, i hereby put out a call to OFP snipers everywhere, and state that i think the M82A1 is worthy of being in the game, and should be put in. Whos with me?

as most of us know from being the game junkies we are, the Barrett model 82A1 50 caliber sniper rifle is a good choice for long range afairs. I think its place in OFP would be perfectly acceptable as an alternative to the m21, and in a pinch, it might even be effective on APCs. it would even be historicly accurate to the game, seeing as how the inception of the M82A1 occured in 1982 (the game takes place in '85). So, i hereby put out a call to OFP snipers everywhere, and state that i think the M82A1 is worthy of being in the game, and should be put in. Whos with me?

I'll say it again. does anyone care about the origional purpose of the thread or not? (Edited by Aculaud at 6:47 am on Dec. 17, 2001)

I'll say it again. does anyone care about the origional purpose of the thread or not? (Edited by Aculaud at 6:47 am on Dec. 17, 2001)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from OBiJuan on 1:50 am on Dec. 3, 2001 Nowadays if you even mention race, you are a racist. Â If you even mention someone's sex, you are a sexist. Â It seems some people want us to become robots and refer to each other as units... but then again, someone would still have a problem with that... <span id='postcolor'> Thats so true! i just fealt i had to comment on how cool that is that you recognized that too.

now that you mention it, it seems reasonable since Nato has three scoped assault rifles since the 1.30 ultimate upgrade

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from ScreamingWithNoSound on 1:33 am on Dec. 17, 2001 M14 is technically a battle rifle. Why was the M249 mentioned? This was not introduced until the very late 80's/early 90's - a full 2 decades after the M14 was withdrawn from service and over 3 decades after the BAR was withdrawn. One reason the bad guys don't die with one hit to the chest, is because if THEY die with one hit YOU die with one hit! Simple. If you're having problems making 1 hit 1 kill, you need more practice. I think people that desperately want 'better' snipper rifles are just beardy puffs that are scared to run at the enemy screaming "Die Bastard! DIE!" because they may get killed. It's a game. Play it like one. You wanna make beardy sniper shots, play UT. OFPs strength is that it's a squad-based grunt game. None of this "one man army" s**t that just doesn't happen in real life. (NO, it doesn't - look at the Gulf, the SAS were deployed in 8 man teams). THAT's what's good about OFP as someone else pointed out on a similar thread - the M21 is not there for true snipers, it's there to give a squad extended reach on the battlefield. Snipers are just boring, cause all they do is find a hole and lay there. Yawn. I played this all-sniper mp game once, it was interesting, but <I> won the game, because <I> was not a beardy-boring sniper git, I ran upto people and got stuck in. (with an M21) It's not what you've got, it's how you use it. <span id='postcolor'> Well isnt this just Biased beyond beleif. that may be how you play, but it isnt how i play. get used to the fact that not everyone is like you. in fact, quite the opposite. And hammer, your just twisting my words. By accuracy i meant Fit to snipe with. the garand is no more a sniping weapon than the M-14 was. Does anyone even ive a S@#T about the originonal purpose of this thread anymore?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from ScreamingWithNoSound on 1:33 am on Dec. 17, 2001 M14 is technically a battle rifle. Why was the M249 mentioned? This was not introduced until the very late 80's/early 90's - a full 2 decades after the M14 was withdrawn from service and over 3 decades after the BAR was withdrawn. One reason the bad guys don't die with one hit to the chest, is because if THEY die with one hit YOU die with one hit! Simple. If you're having problems making 1 hit 1 kill, you need more practice. I think people that desperately want 'better' snipper rifles are just beardy puffs that are scared to run at the enemy screaming "Die Bastard! DIE!" because they may get killed. It's a game. Play it like one. You wanna make beardy sniper shots, play UT. OFPs strength is that it's a squad-based grunt game. None of this "one man army" s**t that just doesn't happen in real life. (NO, it doesn't - look at the Gulf, the SAS were deployed in 8 man teams). THAT's what's good about OFP as someone else pointed out on a similar thread - the M21 is not there for true snipers, it's there to give a squad extended reach on the battlefield. Snipers are just boring, cause all they do is find a hole and lay there. Yawn. I played this all-sniper mp game once, it was interesting, but <I> won the game, because <I> was not a beardy-boring sniper git, I ran upto people and got stuck in. (with an M21) It's not what you've got, it's how you use it. <span id='postcolor'> Well isnt this just Biased beyond beleif. that may be how you play, but it isnt how i play. get used to the fact that not everyone is like you. in fact, quite the opposite. And hammer, your just twisting my words. By accuracy i meant Fit to snipe with. the garand is no more a sniping weapon than the M-14 was. Does anyone even ive a S@#T about the originonal purpose of this thread anymore?

alright, so now we've got enough opinions on the board, so now i'll just ask. Who else would actually like to see the Barrett in OFP?

alright, so now we've got enough opinions on the board, so now i'll just ask. Who else would actually like to see the Barrett in OFP?

its just all about finding the happy medium with trajectory and velocity. i think running will make you throw it farther, if that helps. hand grenades have a very limited range. id only use hand thrown devices to take out someone around the corner or something. if you want to be able to take out a squad like in the middle of an open area or something, you may have more luck with a nade launcher.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Sgt Hammer on 10:40 am on Dec. 16, 2001 My beef is that you go shooting your mouth off and you don't even have the slightest idea what you are talking about.<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, says you. If you know so much about history, and the like, you must know that there can be more than one side to it. its called having a different perspective. So tell me, i'm dying to know. what have i stated thats so wrong?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Sgt Hammer on 10:40 am on Dec. 16, 2001 My beef is that you go shooting your mouth off and you don't even have the slightest idea what you are talking about.<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, says you. If you know so much about history, and the like, you must know that there can be more than one side to it. its called having a different perspective. So tell me, i'm dying to know. what have i stated thats so wrong?

no one ever said anything about dedicating the M-14 to full auto. i said SOME......................SOME. not to be confused with ALL. SOME m-14s were equiped with bipods for use as full auto support for squads. and you better beleive the army wanst planning on using it for support the entire time. they encounterd scores of problems using it for support. so why dont you stop nit-picking, just taking everything you can to make me look bad, and either get on the ban-wagon or stop giving me S#%T

no one ever said anything about dedicating the M-14 to full auto. i said SOME......................SOME. not to be confused with ALL. SOME m-14s were equiped with bipods for use as full auto support for squads. and you better beleive the army wanst planning on using it for support the entire time. they encounterd scores of problems using it for support. so why dont you stop nit-picking, just taking everything you can to make me look bad, and either get on the ban-wagon or stop giving me S#%T

............................................i'm the dumbass...........? YOU JUST PROVED MY WHOLE POINT, YOU IMBICILE!!!!! Your right about all your little factoids there. the M-14 is indeed a better assault rifle than the G3 and the FAL. What you never learned however, was that the M-14 was made with both semi and gas operation. it was origionally designed for semi-auto fire, but some of them were equiped with bipods to be used as squad automatic weapons. this was un successful due to exessive recoil, and very wide dispersion. the M14A1 was designed to overcome these problems but it was still too light to be truely effective. ultimately, the M249 SAW filled the army's need for a reiable light machine gun. The M14 National match rifle was the model optomized for accuracy with special sight parts, and berrals selected especially for that purpose. Later the M-21, or XM-21 was developed jointly by the army weapons command, combat developement command, and the limited war agency. it was basicly an M-14 National Match fitted with an adjustable range telescope, or ART sight. This rifle was tested and feilded in Vietnam, 1969. Its undergone numrous tests to earn its place somewhere (and i emphisize somewhere) in the army, and is old to say the least. is it reliable? yes. is it accurate? yes. But it has  been taken seriously as an assault rifle, and a light machine gun. only after those asumptions went belly up did the army try it out as a sniper rifle. What i'm asking for is a true sniper rifle. As in, a rifle that was actually made for sniping. the Tango-51, Bravo-51, and USMC M-40 to name just a few. And back to the subject of the game, i just played the single mission "sniper Team", and i got very frustrated when soldiers didnt die with one shot to the chest. this is a 7.62mm round we're talking about. more than capable of taking a life from any range, and they're not dying. I'm a one-shot-one-kill type of sniper, as i'm sure every other compitant OFP sniper would be as well, so i find this a little discouraging. if no additional sniper rifle is added, at least make this one effective enough to really snipe with. other wise, i might as well go back to using it how the M-14 was origionally designed to be used. (Edited by Aculaud at 8:31 am on Dec. 16, 2001)

............................................i'm the dumbass...........? YOU JUST PROVED MY WHOLE POINT, YOU IMBICILE!!!!! Your right about all your little factoids there. the M-14 is indeed a better assault rifle than the G3 and the FAL. What you never learned however, was that the M-14 was made with both semi and gas operation. it was origionally designed for semi-auto fire, but some of them were equiped with bipods to be used as squad automatic weapons. this was un successful due to exessive recoil, and very wide dispersion. the M14A1 was designed to overcome these problems but it was still too light to be truely effective. ultimately, the M249 SAW filled the army's need for a reiable light machine gun. The M14 National match rifle was the model optomized for accuracy with special sight parts, and berrals selected especially for that purpose. Later the M-21, or XM-21 was developed jointly by the army weapons command, combat developement command, and the limited war agency. it was basicly an M-14 National Match fitted with an adjustable range telescope, or ART sight. This rifle was tested and feilded in Vietnam, 1969. Its undergone numrous tests to earn its place somewhere (and i emphisize somewhere) in the army, and is old to say the least. is it reliable? yes. is it accurate? yes. But it has  been taken seriously as an assault rifle, and a light machine gun. only after those asumptions went belly up did the army try it out as a sniper rifle. What i'm asking for is a true sniper rifle. As in, a rifle that was actually made for sniping. the Tango-51, Bravo-51, and USMC M-40 to name just a few. And back to the subject of the game, i just played the single mission "sniper Team", and i got very frustrated when soldiers didnt die with one shot to the chest. this is a 7.62mm round we're talking about. more than capable of taking a life from any range, and they're not dying. I'm a one-shot-one-kill type of sniper, as i'm sure every other compitant OFP sniper would be as well, so i find this a little discouraging. if no additional sniper rifle is added, at least make this one effective enough to really snipe with. other wise, i might as well go back to using it how the M-14 was origionally designed to be used. (Edited by Aculaud at 8:31 am on Dec. 16, 2001)

its not like we couldnt give the resistance their own sniper unit while giving both the reds and the US a new sniper rifle a peice. their are rusian sniper rifles that could take cae of both of those situations. I'd be happy with so much as an M-40. my weapon of choice from delta force land warrior. I want my M-40!!! Give Me My M-40!!!!!!!

its not like we couldnt give the resistance their own sniper unit while giving both the reds and the US a new sniper rifle a peice. their are rusian sniper rifles that could take cae of both of those situations. I'd be happy with so much as an M-40. my weapon of choice from delta force land warrior. I want my M-40!!! Give Me My M-40!!!!!!!

or to the resistance. the AW50 would be a fine choice as the Avon Lady pointed out. and a 7.62mm NATO round is only more accurate depending on the rifle. The M-21 is based on the M-14 rifle which was developed to replace the Browning Automatic Rifle, and the M-1 Garand. both of those weapons werent meant for accuracy, although they got the job done perfectly well. I think this si a good oppertunity to add a sniper rifle that was actually meant to be a sniper rifle.

or to the resistance. the AW50 would be a fine choice as the Avon Lady pointed out. and a 7.62mm NATO round is only more accurate depending on the rifle. The M-21 is based on the M-14 rifle which was developed to replace the Browning Automatic Rifle, and the M-1 Garand. both of those weapons werent meant for accuracy, although they got the job done perfectly well. I think this si a good oppertunity to add a sniper rifle that was actually meant to be a sniper rifle.

look, all i'm saying is that it'd be nice to have some variety in the sniping feild, and it might be a good idea to make that happen for the resistance, seeing as how they lack a snipe and i special op soldier.

look, all i'm saying is that it'd be nice to have some variety in the sniping feild, and it might be a good idea to make that happen for the resistance, seeing as how they lack a snipe and i special op soldier.

hmmmm,..........well maybe something else would be good, but i'd really like to move for some type of sniper addon. i thought it might be cool to give the resistance a sniper unit. it would be a good oppertunity to introduce a silenced sniper rifle as a sort of resistance-black op weapon.

hmmmm,..........well maybe something else would be good, but i'd really like to move for some type of sniper addon. i thought it might be cool to give the resistance a sniper unit. it would be a good oppertunity to introduce a silenced sniper rifle as a sort of resistance-black op weapon.