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War is war, no matter where or when.

Simplified, yet clarifying a few things for some people in this thread. A friend of mine had a way to describe that :"C'est comme le saut à l'élastique niveau adrénaline, mais à l'envers chez les gens normalement finis. Pour ce qui est de l'acrobatie, c'est avant que tu te poses des questions, juste avant que tu te chies dessus, et après que tu es fier et con. Tuer quelqu'un, c'est donc l'inverse, au début tu es fier de ton flingo, de ton joli treillis, de ton beret, des idéaux que tu défends. Arrivé le moment de faire le boulot pour lequel t'es payé et pour lequel on t'a formé, tu le fais machinalement, après, tu te fais dessus (tu tiltes un coup) ou tu chiales et après tu te poses les questions qui font mal." "It's like bungee jumping adrenaline-wise but the events are reversed in the mind of normal people. When it comes to acrobatics, you ask yourself questions beforehand, it's right before jumping that you shit your pants or pass out and it's after that you're proud about your dumb feat. Killing somebody is the contrary : beforehand, you're proud about your rifle, your green fatigues, your berret. When comes the time to do the job you've been taught and you're paid for, you do it mechanicaly, afterward, you shit your pants, pass out or cry and then you ask yourself the questions which hurt." The only way to kill somebody without mercy and remorse is to be a sociopathological bastard, because even with the "mob mentality" (which would normally be called Esprit de corps ) you end up feeling the weight of your acts. It's not your superiors either who pulled the trigger for you.

You made it out with just a few bruises ?? Lucky you, I fell on the pavement on my own last week and broke my collar bone/clavicle ...

France may be far from an earthly paradise, but as I see it, briton independantists have no real real ground for their claims. Since you're into history and enjoy keeping a foot in the past and different time periods, it's been what ? 500 years since Brittany has been rattached to the french crown. Not forgetting the fact that some "regionalistes" pledged allegiance to the krauts during the second world war. Brittany won't be independant anytime soon, and the ARB won't pull you out from french "oppression". And don't forget that this movement has blood on its hands. And it's not through political means that you're going to change anything either, not with the 450 persons of the PB and all the other minor parties. Be happy that you still have a strong culture and strong traditions. It's not as if an independant Brittany could survive by just exporting Breizh cola you know. Quit dreaming. I don't think Igor's reply was all that "franchouillard", it's mostly that vocal persons without a clue and no basis for their claims tend to annoy people, especially when it's about such a ridiculous topic. Most Britons, past the fact that they'll go watch a Bagadou play from time to times and hang a Briton flag just about anywhere, hold their social security benefits, their infrastructures financed by France and the many administrative jobs offered by the french state too dear to even bother. If "you secede", I naturally want the Pays de Retz back as it is after all a Picton territory originally, and I'm going to push for a seccession from France in the Poitou Charentes, we've got the Parlanje afterall, we also got some pretty cool traditionnal dancing and music bands ... Tache de seug' to chemin dreit, d'Angoleme à La Rochelle, pas d'besoin d'passer pr' Potiers

I'd go for something south american, yet the hull reminded me of the south korean K1. And the gun looks akin to what could be mounted on french AMX10RC and ERC90, it (the gun) definitely has a french look .

yep, your turn

GOT IT ! FV4401, Contentious. You Brits had some fucked-up ideas.

hmm, FV217 ? or possibly one of the SP-AT Centurion variants mock-ups.

I don't think so, it's a relatively long way from a MANPADS to a top-attack large caliber antitank weapon. IIRC, the Javelin AT is a LM/Raytheon product and was ment to be a replacement for the Dragon.

Yup, call me old-fashionned but I'd just have called those "blowpipes"

This thread is a goldmine with pretty large nuggets such as that "stella" MANPADS. What caused the American helos to go down was more of a doctrinal than technical nature. You don't fly over desert and over gunmen filled casbahs the same. That's my humble advice as a former poor little gun-totting grey blob in the optronics of those things.

Yup, spot on, the "Engin K", Goliath's daddy You can see two exemples twinned here.

Relatively hard one.

FlakPanzer Coelian turret mock-up ?

Why didn't any of my sources feature the "full" black line (bumber?) and the fin? Anyways, the crashed bird is a Loire-Nieuport L.N.40. good job ! about the Airgeep, just looked like a thing I saw on a plastic model box, a Glencoe model iirc. From what I know, this thing had numerous prototypes and real size models each with certain differences.

what is this ?

recent military related random crap by me : Your typical guerilla/mercenary fighter : http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9192/0858854664ij5.jpg The silhouettes I made and used in my sig. http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/1609/tankpixel223oe7.jpg Hastily made self portrait, doing what I do the best, chilling out : http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5170/autoportrait1dz7.jpg

Piasecki VZ8P ?

Yup Pretty awesome design.

What is this a profile of ? beware though, it was just a project which didn't materialise, no operationnal vehicle, no prototype.

Stipa Caproni ? I could describe the propulsion system in french but my english is failling me there. This thechnology interested the french air force a lot back in the 30's, it was seen as as alternative to jet engines.

What is this ?

Yermlayev Yer-2 or something

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