Posts posted by oktane
Can you address this? The page on armaholic says there's an option for no bloom, though I know it's an old version and you might not be in charge of putting it up on armaholic. So what is stopping you from having bloom disabled in the later versions of the mod?
It's been explained numerous times in the thread why.
If you want proper options, petition BIS. This is a HACK, not a proper mod.
---------- Post added at 15:45 ---------- Previous post was at 15:45 ----------No bisign in latest beta 102678 :(
shiiit, something must have broke. I'll look at it, thanks for telling me. I moved to california and been moving around a lot, lugging this server around and plugging it in so that this mod updates lol, but haven't been keeping an eye on it otherwise. Being broke and stuff has been more of a priority.
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okay keys are fixed. maybe the path got too long calling binpbo.. i moved the key to the root of the drive and it worked again. I reprocessed all the recent betas so they have keys. Anyone wanna check everything is okay? (can't run game on laptop)
---------- Post added at 16:29 ---------- Previous post was at 16:28 ----------hmmm is it just me or this mod is not removing the blur in beta 101747? i am sure the mod is loaded as it shows up in the expansions menu, and also the dta folder contains the okt_noBlurOA_for_beta_101747.pbo. haven't tested with anything later.
Thanks for the great work keeping up with the betas.
Anyone else verify this?
---------- Post added at 16:37 ---------- Previous post was at 16:29 ----------Is there any potential for the removal of other less desirable visual effects?
I really like this addon, however there are a few other things that I could do without as well.
Aside from the lighting effects which I like, I could do without the following:
The radial bur, the blurring of the screen when injured, the wavy distortion when physically exerted.
Yes all the crap like that can be removed. But it's not manageable as a mod, this is a crude hack the way this works. I'd have to make a million different versions for everyones tastes, and its confusing for people from a user standpoint since they shouldn't be used more than once. BIS needs to just add options to disable certain shaders individually, something they have promised for a while but never fufill. So make noise in that regard.
If I wasn't overriding the whole damn bin.pbo, it would be a different story. But this isn't a normal mod, it overwrites the whole game config because it has or the game ignores the the shaders. But it 'looks' like a normal mod folder, which makes people think its versitile like mods. This is the whole reason i had to automate everything and make it automatic, otherwise the chaos that it would cause would be immense. (people running 104170 exe with 102392 game config (from outdated noblur) and going online, crashing other clients, etc)
Hence, it's just a clusterfuck. It's in their court, their game will be a flop if it doesn't contain modern fucking graphics options anyways. It's not a lot to ask after 3 years of dealing with this nonsense.
a week or two ago, the script was messing up and processed some incorrectly, but i noticed and fixed it pretty quick. so maybe you donwloaded it right away and got the messed up one? I'd redownload it. (I checked and its fixed now, i think i fixed it on the 28th)
When it goes tits up, its like 80kb, if its good it's like 260kb.
Sorry about that.
The server may be off for a few days as it gets driven across the US to california, but I'll hook it up at my friends house when I get there for you guys.
I would say screw the moderator. You created something new from scratch, that merits a new thread, regardless if it was a recycled idea. I'm sure that every member of this forum would agree with that too. This is a digital bulletin board, are we conserving resources? Give me a break. Your creation is much wider in scope than this topic it is posted in. It deserves one simply so that you can have a first post, which you can update and provide documentation/links etc. You think someone searching for a beta email notification is going to find this thread, read all the way to the 5th page? No, they are are going to try to subscribe to the OP's email thing and be dismayed when it doesn't work. :D
I would put a post in the Beta forum, since that's what it's about.
Seriously, don't let anyone, anyone diminish what work you have done for this community, this game, etc. There are many takers and few givers. If the mod doesn't respect that, he doesn't deserve to be a mod.
Is it possible to remove bloom and dof as well from the game so pretty much only ambient occlusion remains and some other effects?
Please hound BIS about this, if you search this thread the exact thing is mentioned about 15 times with explaination why I don't do it. It is not possible to mix and match, because of the way that this mod works. It contains the whole game config, it is not a normal mod that you are used to. I would have to make like 3 different mods (blur, bloom, both) and people would get confused, its just a nightmare. It would be different if it was a 'normal' mod. I tried very hard to make it as normal looking as it is now. (but you will notice there is nothing in the Addons directory!)
BIS needs to fix it and provide separate INI options for each shader, but they don't give a shit, and haven't for what now 4 years? It's been promised and hinted at by devs about 6 times, no results.
Nice job! @ArmABeta or something might have been more intuitive to a person that sees it mentioned or finds it on twitter, unless they read the description. Seriously though, this work is greatly appreciated. I had an RSS for betas too, long ago, which was shut down when the 506th group closed. It had all kinds of problems with godaddy security restrictions and stuff, pain to host. But this fills in the gap and takes it to the next level!
Maybe it could run as a google app or amazon cloud service some day too, that's what I was looking into doing. I'm glad you did it first though, because I have zero time. :)
If you haven't already, make a new thread for this so that you can control the OP/First post with updated information! I updated the old RSS feed thread with your post.
Also, I made this a while back, if you need to 'do things' when new items appear in the RSS feed. https://github.com/oktane/rssRunCmd It's what I use for the noBlur processing when your feed has a new item. :) (config)
okay, just checking since nobody hounded me about missing some! :D
Argh, so the qBasix beta email notification stopped working! I had no idea there was any new betas. Anyways, maddogx made his own, and an RSS feed too!! So now it's automatic again, checks new beta every 15 minutes and makes and auto uploads it. :)
Dunno if anyone still uses this noBlur anymore though? BIS fix it yet?
Sweeeeeeet thanks man. I stopped getting them, and therefore stopped making noBlurs! Making use of the RSS for the noBlur autobuild!
Noticed some missing items on the RSS, is that normal?
Like all of these:
Either way, as long as the new ones show up, it's all good.
That was uncalled for. Either you are under the delusion that oktane's gonna come up with something new, as it's being requested, or you're confirming exactly what I said: he updates his mod to work with any change BIS does to Arma. He has the infrastructure to automate the process, until he doesn't.
@oktane: Thanks one more time for your work.
No problem and sorry for the outage.
And I think you two might be saying the same thing just in different ways, but I'm confused in any regard lol.
Btw, Its not an MP cheating issue, they just don't care. What is a basic priority and simple request by us, who have played (and even developed) other high end AAA games that have intricate graphics options for wide tastes and hardware, is apparently not obvious to them. And it shows the unimportance of the feature request/bug tracker system when it deviates from the scope of their baby, since its been a high voted item for years now.
If it was a MP thing, PP would be enforced by a server logically.
As has been stated many times, the technical way these changes are made by me is nearly a joke in efficiency, and is much better suited to BI who can easily add an ini setting to disable it, without redesigning the GUI. And they have said we'll look into it multiple times, but they haven't.. you can only conclude one thing.. shiny zombie models and shit are more important than basic graphics options. And their skewed priorities are what will kill them and their products, unfortunately.
Hey I have an idea, lets make an expansion pack that will cause headaches for everyone playing MP for over a year. We can still make money on our old game and force the users to buy it if they want shit to work properly! .... oh that turned out to be a bad idea, here's some low resolution models to get your fragmented communites back together until we fuck up the next big thing. Lol.
I commend their idealism and dedication to the community. But they failed to grasp their engine/game as a platform much too late, even though all us devs/power users were all screaming it for 3 years. Only now are they playing catch up, I think.
i'm back from cali again
i'm afraid my life is a bit chaotic right now. i would have had them up to date but my internet got shut off. (it wasn't mine exactly, but it was legal) they didn't bother to tell me that it was going to be disconnected a month early, right when I was gone. So it messed up a lot of stuff, like my ability to work remotely for clients and you guys.
I am back now and i have found some pirate internets, and I updated everything. I promise to make an effort when I get a chance, to host this buttload of scripts that generates these on a server that will be up more often than my workstation. Probably a windows machine somewhere. Because my workstation is probably going to be in a box, or I'll be using it as a pillow as I sleep under the golden gate or an abandoned bunker in the marin headlands. :D
I see that the beta number rolled over another digit, hopefully that didn't break anything. The files look okay, but someone check if the latest work okay.
cheers and seek adventure!
---------- Post added at 15:09 ---------- Previous post was at 15:01 ----------The motion blur really kills post processing for me. I like the eye candy, and having it on low doesn't seem to hit fps much, but the blur literally nauseates me, and the no blur mod doesn't really seem to get rid of it for me. :(
Can you try with the new version, and make sure that the oktNoBlur shows up as loaded? (it has an icon on the main menu if it was successful) See screenshot. (this is old, ignore numbers.. you should use the right noblur addon for the right OA beta patch, or retail etc)
Hi Oktane and other users of this mod --
I'm pretty new to ARMA2 / AO but did manage to get a couple of Linux dedicated servers running pretty well.
I've added the noblur mod to my game client successfully but when trying to join our dedicated servers I'm getting the error message about additional accepted keys needing to be installed for this mod.
The server is Linux, OA 1.62 + ACR Lite, etc. beta revision 98939.
The OA client version of all players playing on our server is 1.62 patch version 95248.
I did copy the okt.bikey file from the client's keys directory over to the server's (arma2ao root dir)/keys folder, then restarted the server instance. I didn't copy the entire mod directory over (should I have done that?)
I noticed newer posts to this thread that look like you've started providing v2 signature keys for the mod recently. 95248 was probably before you started including the v2 signature keys. I'm not really sure this is the problem but could it be that I just need a v2 bikey for this mod to be in the server's keys directory?
I could probably install a newer game beta client patch and put a newer version of the noblur mod in that comes with a v2 bikey if there's no other way (and if I could find where the beta client patches are), but this 95248 version seems to be what the latest available is via Steam as well (2 of our players get theirs from Steam, we bought elsewhere and installed game files and patches by hand but 95248 is also the latest patch available on arma2.com's Supply Depot).
Thanks for any advice/direction.
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I changed verifySignatures setting to 1 and restarted the server as a workaround for now, so the v1 key can be used to validate the mod.
So, do you need anything from me?
No need to copy the whole mod over, just the okt key should be okay.
I'm sort of screwed here.. I'm in california on vacation and my internet was shut off at my office, where my workstation is, and where I make the noBlur. So I cannot remotely access the resources to fix anything, or even patch to the latest OA beta version. (as of now, I am one patch behind)
I do not get back to illinois until the 17th of Dec, when I will hook my phone to my computer and update the missing noBlurs.
You should use the latest beta that you want, but then use the noBlur for that beta version. Don't mix and match, since the game config.bin has to be included in the noBlur, weird things will happen. If you want, you can try to use the latest okt key from a post v2 changeover. (any latest version) The key should not be version dependant. You can use any okt key that you like.
I suppose it's hard to explain and you might have misunderstood. I guess I will have to fix it and then show you, hopefully you will then take the changes and put them into your codebase. I am trying to say, the way that crCTI does the weapon restrictions is completely artificial, and it's a result of it being hard coded. In arma2 itself, you are allowed to carry heavy weapons and launchers. (except in extreme cases? I can't think of any at the moment.) In crCTI, it is artificially limited by mission scripting, which causes issues I described in last post. Since your addon requires mods anyways, if you wish to restrict certain weapon loadouts(prevent m249+launcher etc), they should be done in the addon config (config.cpp), not in mission scripting.
Then mission gear should work dynamically, and match game gear logic 100%, so there are no more issues.
OR if you are saying that restrictions are completely broken in ArmA2, I will look into it. Maybe A2CCP can help.
I will try to work on it this weekend to show you.
Oh, before I forget.. is anyone interested in the Buy Gear dialog being 'logically' the same as the ArmA2 gear dialog? What I mean is, obviously everyone is aware of the silly limitations in the mission dialog, just as it was in Warfare. Such as:
- Certain Weapons are classed to take up primary AND secondary, when they are not actually in the game. Example: All machineguns and high caliber sniper rifles. (can be glitched around anyways, no real point)
- Certain Ammo types have incorrect size which does not match up with actual item in game, so going in gear after buying will make game 'correct' the faults by removing extra/too much ammo. (Example Carl Gustav AT round size, can carry more than normal)
- The smoke grenades go in the Pistol/Rifle Grenade slots!? (This is a carrydown from OFP, I don't think there is a valid reason for this, someone correct me if I am wrong)
In my minority opinion, these restrictions are artificial and easily glitched around anyways, so in the end they just make buying the gear you want a pain. What I propose is that I (or whoever is allowed) rewrite the gear dialog logic to use cfgvalues to assertain the size of round, and primary/secondary/pistolmag limitations. That way it is DYNAMIC instead of hardcoded. When things are hardcoded, then they have to be updated and maintained, nobody wants that.
Besides this, if there should be a primary/secondary limitation imposed, this should be done properly in the weapon addon or proman config, not the mission gear dialog, that way it cannot be glitched around. So Mission dialog always matches and works like ArmA2 gear dialog, no accidentally losing ammo if you enter game gear dialog, no more ammo than you should have, no silly smoke grenades taking up M203 slots, etc.
I was going to do this for my version I play coop with here on the lan, but it would be nice if it was made standard for everyone, if that's what people would like. I am just saying, mission gear dialog should read values from weapontypes and ammotypes, not use custom limitations like it does now. Or maybe there are just some bugs.
I have familiarity with this, as I did it in ArmA1 Warfare also, redesigned mission gear dialog to match game 100%, with no 'weird restrictions'.
I do not see why a 249 gunner cannot carry a AT4, etc. But if you wish to restrict this, shouldn't it be done in the weapon config? Or implement a simple weight restriction system, I think there was a script version of this on warfare? (without ace)
I propose, if you still wanted SOME hardcoded overrides to prevent Javelin with 50cal or something, then a small list of hardcodes is okay with the rest being dynamic.
Let me know what you all think about this.
- Certain Weapons are classed to take up primary AND secondary, when they are not actually in the game. Example: All machineguns and high caliber sniper rifles. (can be glitched around anyways, no real point)
No garantee for that could crash the game. Better solution is to give the the eastern faction zero money.
Then you only will have 10 enemy eastern soldiers...
Um, not sure if I understand but. FYI, This is the way I play cr-cti for 7 or so years. Friends come over and we play against AI. We use AI mod so they aren't dumb. Works fine. The reason is that we have limited time, and online public has hackers and impatient people that come and go, where we want the old style hours long CTI with no interruptions.
I would guess that ALOT of people play CTI like this, on LAN.
We make small changes to speed up gameplay, like more start money, factories have lower time limit build prevention. We remove tab lock prevention. (we turn planes off and attack choppers to double otherwise it becomes impossible to drive around)
It's very very close to OFP crcti. We very much miss the AI commander in CRCTI, the way that he built reliably the H pads and always had choppers taking off and paradropping on towns to reinforce. And those 50 caliber tripod M2's that shot the shilka gun, LOL.. made getting in base harder. Proman is fantastic though, it is really close to CR on ofp. :P
Thank you Angry Insects and Muecke and anyone I forgot.
We have high power computers and it can get very nasty battle, too many wrecks and low FPS. And I'm sure AI mod does not help. But jesus, AI mod helps SO much in making it realistic, enemies do not stand around anymore. You have to relearn to play. The mod we use is @zeu_AI
Can you please check out this auto config url ?
Fresh sync from scratch worked! Cheers! Don't forget to update first post and let everyone know new URL!
Thanks again mate
Hey man, that message was for Muecke.
Don't use yoma until he fixes the webserver. Just use the full download file for now.
iam sorry for the probs with yoma. Some do have other can use it without problems. I have no idea why is that.
I will try to point you in the right direction regarding the web server..
There are a lot of files missing on it. The repo 7z file which has the file listing and checksums is OK, but the actual files that the listing points to are missing from server. So, if your proman addon dir is up to date, yoma acts fine. But if some files are out of date, yoma deletes old files and tries to get the new ones but they are 404(missing) on webserver. I think you should delete the repo 7z and resync with yoma upload function tab, which will reupload missing files and fix issue.
If anyone uses yoma:
DO NOT SYNCRONIZE WITH YOMA! (until the webserver is fixed)
It will happily delete a bunch of stuff, and then CTI will not work at all. There are a lot of files (300 megs worth) missing on the yoma repository server. They appear in the 7z repo file listing, but if you actually need to download them, they aren't there! (404)
The only solution to that is to get the full @proman.7z file Muecke posted which contains all the addons, old-school style. http://files.dao.nu/ArmA%20II/AI/@Proman.7z
Thanks Everyone, especially Muecke and Team Angry!
Separate group size for AI vs Player (Humans are good with lots of AI, especially if you are playing coop against computer, but if AI TL has too many group size, game gets really slow)
No need to do this for me, I already made small changes it in myself. Just seeing if anyone else liked that idea... :)
Yes, no new feature except support for version 2 signatures as sickboy requested. This is only important to server operators.
finally sorted v1/v2 signatures! and fixed arma2 (nonOA) script. my updates come slower than BIS feature requests, lol.
So noBlur updates released tonight:
ArmA 2 1.11 (finally! and w/v2 sig)
OA 1.62 (just with new v2 sig)
Latest Beta 97028 with v2 sig
Everything will have v2 sigs in future of course. I also installed more bloated DLC (ACR Lite) but it did not make any game changes so nothing is needed for that.
I imagine only a handful of people use this mod, but maybe it will be allowed on v2 sig check servers now. Dunno how that works, it says a new key is not needed so they should be able to use the existing one, the only change was on my end.
Thanks for the information Sickboy.
updated last two betas that were missing, still need to fix script for old arma2 non-oa sorry
im late on the last two betas guys, i am rearranging everything and the computer is discon. get to it asap.
Has anyone managed to get this mod to work using the in game expansion manager instead of the -mod parameter? I can load all of the other mods fine through the in game manager, but even with noBlur enabled it seems to have no effect. I think it is because its not possible to arrange the order so that it is loaded last.
Reason I need to use that is because I use a hack (http://colorclutch.sourceforge.net/) to force Arma 2 to use my monitors ICC profile, which involves launching the game via a separate .exe, which unfortunately does not pass parameters correctly to Arma if they are wrapped in quotes, which they need to be to load combined ops etc.
petition the game devs to add the option to enable/disable the blur. indeed it may be because of loading first/last. It used to work with the in game thingy, that's why I made the icon and the addon.cpp file so that it has the information in there. But I dont doubt that they broke it or it stopped working. Most mods are not made like this one is, overriding the bin.pbo/shaders is not a normal thing. (sometimes, a total conversion will)
Hence the need for developer support, then all this would be unnecessary.
But really, can you contact the author to get him to pass command line paramaters? You cannot be the only person with this issue here.
oktNoBlur - Signed Blur Remover Addon
in ARMA 2 & OA - ADDONS & MODS: COMPLETE
There was a change to the beta page, resulted in the last 2 betas not processing. But its fixed now.
Arma3? Same shit more shiny.
Uses exactly the same code as ArmA2, so again with this mess.. Man. Except they did add some DX11 shaders.
The full alpha can load mods right? I haven't played with it much. If it can, I'll have to try to make a noblur for it. This pisses me of to a great extent.