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  1. Posted

    Hello. I havent  played A3 for years now, i just like to check the forum once in a while.
    But i do remember this problem, In A2 we just depbo one of the files. copied out the flare script. changed it a bit so it would deflect missiles. then just added it to the mission init and it would overwriting existing flare code. no addons was needed.
    Im sure this is possible in A3 too. maybe even someone has done it already.

  3. Posted

    Many of you may wonder what the heck am i doing.

    Im so sorry for not informing you people about this so you could prepare.

    As you seen my 1st post updated with only a few words and no explanation why i am doing this.

    I am going to tell you why i decided to do this.

    As of today im doing my own little protest against the path Bis has taken.

    I am going to keep protest against their policy change until they change it and make it fair.

    So its basically the end of my little contribution to the community..

    Im no Big content maker in the arma community.

    I only do my own little hobby modding and never release anything to the public.

    Now i feel that this hole "Arma 3 Server monetization" is rotten to the bone.

    This "sign up your server here as a monitized one" then it's ok if you follow this simple rules its ok.

    I am afraid its not Ok. And its not that simple.

    These are my personal opinions thought. So please respect them.

    What they are basically doing it letting the server hoster earn the cash (those who host the game).

    While the ones who makes the mission, framework makers, addons makers(vehicles,etc), map makers, just have to sit by and see their work cash in while they get nothing in return.

    Things like this takes hundreds of hours to make. its easy peasy to setup a server and clash some addons and mission on a server.

    And it does only take a few hours setting it up. "tweaking,admining,maintenance it is a another matter"

    Even if a person if to put in a "no commercial usage" or something like that in their EULA, no single person has the , time, money, "(knowledge)" on how to enfore their EULA.

    Now i ask bis. did you ever think about us who makes 3rd party software being exploited? Guess not,

    As i said, even if we are to put a "for none commercial usage" in our ELUA. how can we really enforce this?

    We have the same problem as addon|mod makers. but then again. we where never bound to any of your EULA so we always had this problem with enforcing it anyway.

    I had my fair share of dmca take-downs trying to enforce my own EULA. phhh, i say i rather waste my time on other stuff.

    This shitty banaid after the A3L episode is just big bs in my opinion.

    If Bis is really to allow monetization then every part has to be able cash in, Addon makers, map maker, mission maker so on.

    I hear alot of this: addon|map makers do it for fun, fame, etc.

    Sure they do. Why the hell would the else be doing it.

    Now why cant (server hoster's) do the same?.

    Donation for server rent is another thing, which im ok with. But not direct profit to be made by hosting a game (and exploiting addon|mod makers work)

    As a personal opinion i think that the "spirit" of arma should not be monetized at all. period.

    I think the solution to a none monetized community is simple

    Tie in the dedicated server whith the steam account and have the server shutdown periode if abuse is reported though a reportabuse site.

    But Bis has chosen another path.

    Now Bec. There is a kill signal sent on version check.

    This kill signal has only been used before on reporter accounts that tried to abuse|exploit the system.

    As you have discovered the fix|workaround is simple

    All you have to do is block any request done to ibattle.org by Bec. either in your sw firewall (windows firewall) or on your router

    Bec will work normally after that. with the exception of the reporter account and version checking.

    Why did i do this kill signal?

    So people stop sending|requesting "garbage" traffic being sent|received to|from bansys & ibattle. as im no longer providing any services there.

    I am taking my stand against Bis, You may say this is childish, egoistic, no point, I am only hurting the server hoster who use Bec.

    Nevertheless i have made my stand on this matter and i hope you can respect them, you may not agree with them and i respect that.

    I am sure there will popup something new in not so long, i seen a few wip ongoing. until then im sorry for the inconvenience i caused you all.

    I am not trying to start some crusade or anything, me personally feel its time to check out and move on to something else.

    Regards.

    nuxil.

  4. Posted

    it is not stupid (as there will be no callExtension on client)

    the theory is pretty simple:

    - Create a server side anti-cheat (client will get only functions it really needs with hooks etc. and server will trigger those functions over and over again for checking)

    - upload that anti-cheat into a SQL base so the source is not inside of the mission

    - create a dll that loads that SQF code onto the server

    - let the system work

    the client simply should not have any informations about the anti-cheat

    it would even be better to make that anti-cheat "closed source" to prevent leaks (thats also possible with some dll magic)

    its more simple then it sounds at all

    I said stupid for the client, i did not say it was stupid for the server.

    I said it would make no sense unless you want to connect it to another system

    A sql server is that. ;)

    However. As i already said. If you where to go public with the AC you are exposing your self.

    One could just peek at the sql table(s) and see what the function(s) do.

    Also this would not work for "all missions" would it? that would be pretty damn hard to make.

    I would rather spend my time on writing proper BE Filter(s) for my mission with Regular expressions etc. than make an custom AC.

    tbh ... i would not use visual basic for anything ...

    c++ would be the way to go (or c# for userinterface)

    C or ASM would even be better :p

    There are lot of programs written in vb.net. So nothing wrong with it.

    Example. CDBurnerXP which i use alot

    If you like to spend 5x more time writing something in c++. fine. then that is your choice.

    I would not unless it requires heavy optimization, "in regards get most work per cpu cycle".

    Anyway. i think we have hijacked this thread enough about anticheat discussion.

    ParadoxParadoxon has already said he will "drop" that idea. ;)

    ---------------------

    ParadoxParadoxon i would help you out if it where php.

    But im about to check out from this community, i dont like the path Bis is taking and i will not have any part of it anymore.

  5. Posted

    there are ways to do propper anti-cheat without letting the client know ANY of the anti-cheat mechanism at any point in time!

    SQF IS capable of doing so ...

    Sure there is. but sqf is not one of those ways.

    but that requires a heavy knowledge of the callExtension command

    Not sure how callExtension is going to help you here.

    Using it on the serve make no sense unless you want to have it to connect to some other system.

    Using a callExtenson dll on the client is just "stupid".

    Because.

    1 * You can not sign a dll.

    2 * You can replace it with you own custom dll.

    3 * You can debpo the addon and see how it calls the dll and now it uses the data.

    With out the access to the game engine such as Battleye have, your basically wasting your time on making an AC.

    Once you go public with a sqf anticheat you are exposed. everybody can see how it works.

    I am wondering

    ParadoxParadoxon why all this?

    PHP

    ASP.NET

    VB.NET

  6. Posted · Edited by nuxil

    Reserved slots can be currently done by scripting or BattlEye (ie BEC).

    I just want to burst in and say.

    If any servers are charging for server access and they are using the tool (Bec) for whitelisting or slotlimiting, Let me know.

    Bec is not to be used for any Commercial or Military purpose.

    Having a "Pay to enter" is considered as commercial since the server owners are clearly having a profit from it.

  7. Posted

    As i said. i cant help you much with this.

    * I have no clue which "Domination-type" mission you where playing.

    * I have no clue how the BE Filters on the server looks like.

    So the best option here is to talk to the server admin.

    Tell the admin excatly what you where doing so they can try and reproduce the "Triggering of BE Filter" them self.

    If the admin is not willing to listen then its time to move on to some better server.

    Although i highly doubt this will result in a global ban.

  8. Posted · Edited by nuxil
    abc

    Hi.

    Im sorry. i cant help you much with this.

    This is most likely a ban set on you because you triggered a BE Filter for what youre telling me.

    What the code means or does i have no idea.

    You can fire up the editor and check for your self.

    _what_is_this =  [7,121,32,48,41,32,100,105,115,112,108,97,121,67,116,114,108,32,49,48,54,41,59,10,9,9,9,125,59];
hint format ["%1",  toString _what_is_this];

    Please contact the server it happend on since i cant do much about it.

    They might have banned you because you have exploited some system ingame.

    I can not unban anyone, bans are controlled by the server admins not me.

  9. Posted · Edited by nuxil

    I have expressed my opinon.

    You have expressed yours. Now we leave it at that. i dont want to get into a debait about your opinion or try to convince you otherwize. nor will you be able to change my opinion on this matter.

    Lets get back to the thread title. and leave personal opinions behind.

    "Opening up Arma 3 to paid user-made content" - How?

    I posted my questions with the thead title in mind as i see huge issues with allowing paid use-made content.

  10. Posted · Edited by nuxil

    Result isn't OK. But I wonder, how you would like to prevent that in OK way. I really do, I'm concerned about low visibility of quality stuff. Currently Workshop is just a junkyard.

    Exactly. no quality control. tons on junk.

    Perhaps something like ED does it.

    A certain standard must be kept before 3rd part addon makers are allowed to sell their content and it needs to be approved by Bis

    Some keep repeat that mantra,

    And you keep repeating yours. this conversation is just looping.

    Instead try to answer my question about my conserns regarding this. i think its more important that what you feel about monetization or what i feel about it.

  11. Posted

    Bad mods will be not purchased?

    So its ok to let steam be spammed down by crappy shit made by 10 year old kids?

    Not everybody. And this one was answered two posts above yours.

    Ok. will read that post. was very tired when i wrote my post.

    Modding should not be monetized, modding should be done because people like it and do for it fun.

    It has worked fine for 15 years now.

    It seems like some community members in here thinks that. Hey i spent 10+years on modding for this game engine.

    Its about time i get paid for the stuff i create. (a little blunt way to put it tho.)

    Let the community mods stay free. let everyone benefit for mods, not just them with money in their wallet.

    If you appreciate a content makers work, you can donate to them if you like their work.

    money makes greed, money makes one corrupt. and that's a fact.

    Awful attitude, truth or not.

    And you basically say the same as me, so we got a an awful attitude both of us ;p

    Arma needs community. Community need modders. We all need Arma.

    Except you got one thing wrong here. We all don't need ArmA, there are other great games out there. :)

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    While its just a minor aspects' date=' but why are you suggesting mission designers are not doing "the real hard work"?

    [/quote']

    Yes sorry kju.. i know it takes a lot of effort to create good quality missions. especially multi player missions.

    Lot of testing , bug fixes etc involved. without mission there would not be a point of new addons|mods. what the point of roaming around on a empty map with no meaning.

    But lets say there is 1 person making 1 mission Vs and 1 person making one map.

    The workload on the guy making the map is much higher. model making "houses, sheds etc etc", texturing, uvmapping, creating lods of all sorts,

    creating config files, creating scripts of misc sorts, creating the topology of the map. its really a ton of work.

    Thats why is said the guys who do the real hard work gets 0.

    ;2879269']

    That said personally I think tool designers are the most underrated group in modding in this scene (next to documentation providers).

    They enable modding' date=' they expand modding and most important they reduce the effort involved.

    [/quote']

    Indeed. they are forgotten souls in this.

    If they dedice to monetized the game. all parts must benefit form it. mission makers, (content) makers, map makers. so on.

    Not only the Server hosters.

    Anyway i'll repost my conserns about this since i think my questions are very valid to this topic.

    * What quality control will be involved here?

    * Who will do the quality control?

    * Who will ensure/control that no copyrighted content is "Ab"used.

    * What kind of protection will be involved here, (ie. will the addons/mods be ebo'ed?)

    * How will user paid content work regarding MP.

    * If the content is derivative from some GPL licensed work how will this modified source/code be available?

  12. Posted · Edited by nuxil

    At first i was thinking that Opening up Arma III to paid user made content could be nice thing.

    Why not let the modders who love to mod and do it for fun earn some money on it at the same time.

    But after thinking a bit about it in not so sure this is a good thing to do or the right path to take.

    Maybe these questions have been asked & answered before but i am too sleepy and lazy to dig though 250 posts :p

    My main concerns are.

    * What quality control will be involved here?

    * Who will do the quality control?

    * Who will ensure/control that no copyrighted content is "Ab"used.

    * What kind of protection will be involved here, (ie. will the addons/mods be ebo'ed?)

    * How will user paid content work regarding MP.

    * If the content is derivative from some GPL licensed work how will this modified source/code be available?

    I'm also a bit worried that this would split the community "elitist & novice|noobs" more than it already is.

    I'm also afraid addon/mod makers will hesitate to share their knowledge due to this.

    After Bis got steamifyed they got a bit greedy in my opinion. What i mean by this:

    They now make all sorts of "mini" mods which they call dlc's to try and suck out every penny they can from users..

    * Dlc This

    * Dlc That

    * Dlc Whatever

    + they want a cut out of content you made.

    Its starting to remind me of how EA does business, but its not that bad yet.

    Now with the server monetization i feel it has only made things worse when its starting to be like:

    * Pay to get in faster or be white-listed.

    * Pay to get a special player slot.

    * Pay to get vehicle skin X,Y,Z.

    * Pay to be a black dude, Pay to be a white dude.

    * Pay for this pay for that.

    I feel its too much and Bis really needs to rethink what they are doing.

    The community has thrived well for about 14-15 years now without any money involved.

    Why does everybody suddenly need to make money on hosting the game or creating content for the game?

    Did any of you pay money to get the knowledge you posses on scripting, configuring, model making by depbo other peoples content or looking at tutorials?

    HELL NO. It was all free. And now you want|expect us to pay for content you made which you would not have been able to create without this free knowledge.

    I also like to point out that.

    Now since they allow server monetization they must open up for addon/mod monetization as well.

    Why should only the (Hosters | Mission makers) be able to make money when the guys who are doing the real hard work gets 0.

    It takes hundreds upon hundreds of hours to make quality content. It's very unfair to them.

    But i just hope Bis wakes up and see the madness in this and stop all allowing of monetization.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm all for donations which will cover server costs and maintenance.

    I dont want to see N^y altislife servers trying to earn money of hosting.

    If they really want to allow server monetization i believe more strict rules needs to be in place.

    Such as. Only the community who created the mission|addons|mod can host it, and this need to be approved by Bis.

    And this will be limited to 1 or 2 servers only.

    So BIS.. Stop digging your own grave. Without the community you are nothing. No one want to play your game without mods (except a few souls). vanilla its just bad.

    So get a grip and stop this madness. Don't fuck up the community by the path you're taking now.

    All my friends have trash-binned their copy of arma3, and many other have as well.

    I'm not ready to do that quiet yet, but i to will do this if Bis continues on the monetizing path.

    Some of you might say. Well your loss.

    But i don't see it a loss when there are other great games out there i can spend my time on.

  13. Posted

    Is there any way of logging the RCON commands?

    F/e. who kicked someone, who changed settings or reset the mission?

    Yes and No...

    The Rcon protocol does not tell you who executed a kick or changed a mission.

    Example. you have 2 Rcons connect. you have no idea of knowing if it was rcon 1 or rcon 2 who did the kick or whatever.

    The only time you know who is who is when a rcon user uses the say command. it will tell which rcon did the say.

    So only way you can know who executed a command is by example making a web-interface that requires a userlogin

    and not allowing any other rcons connected to the server. this web rcon would ofc need to log all commands executed by the user(s).

    The only other option i see is to not allow any other rcons than Bec or Epm Rcon to your server. and only have 1 rcon active at anytime.

    Bec does log who executed commands. example: !kick foobar. Bec will then log: Admin blah blah.....

    So the only way you will know who did execute what is to request this to the BE dev. "and pls dont since it means i need to update Bec too :p"

  15. Posted

    I havent played Arma3 for ages so i dont know how the support module works.

    But to simulate laser guided artillery ammo, i belive you have to script this.

    Because if you want a bomb to follow the laser (you/the weapon) needs to have a "lock" on a targer before you fire the weapon.

    Only then will the bomb/rocket follow the lasertarget. this is how the engine work.

    This is ofcource not doable with an artillery since you cant lock on to a lasertarget after you have fired.

    Although, it is rather easy to script such a system.

  17. Posted

    It may be a joke ... And yet, the vast majority of kiddies are caught via scripted AH solutions.

    Sorry but thats just "bs", The vast majority get caught by the BE Filters, atleast on servers who has them setup properly ;)

    Using SQF as an AC solution only opens you up for exloits. sqf by its nature isnt seccure at all. "at least not with its current implementation".

    Besides releasing some AC script solution to the public only shows the "hackers" how the code work.

    Better to have 50 hackers who actually know what they're doing, than 50 hackers and 5,000 kiddies.

    Best to have 0 of both :)

  19. Posted · Edited by nuxil

    No one can stop you from Selling / Buying Sqf/Sqs scripts since you do not use any of Bis tools to create them with.

    Mods/Addons on the other hand is another story.

    http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?186089-Who-is-the-rightful-owner-of-the-content-created-by-myself

    so regarding scripts. as long as you wote it your self. you can do whatever you want with them.

    sell them . throw them in trash bin, whatever. it all up to you

  22. Posted

    Battleye has its own Global Ban yes. But it does not global ban on GameHacks, BattleyeHacks or Script restrictions. or if some kids is jumping around on servers doing tk/messing up the session etc.

    However.

    Planned:

    - Own anti hack system

    Now thats a waste of time if you ask me.

    As long as you can not implement it with the engine there is no point in doing it. using callExtension will not get you anywhere if you try of make your own AC.

    And using SQF scripts for protection/ac is a joke.

  23. Posted

    Hi.

    Thanks for reporting a posible bug.

    Now lets me ask you about a few questions.

    What verison of Bec are you using?

    Can you Define: "After some uptime"?

    How long as Bec been running before you see this start happening?

    Can you Define "Playing Normaly".?

    I ask this question because. players are seen as "InLobby" until they are fully ingame. "Actuall controlling the character".

    After the lobby menu, there is the briefing screen. This is also considered as the lobby.

    But if Bec is actually kicking people who walks around, drive cars etc for Lobby idling there is something wrong.

    Note: Lets say a player gets a warning in the lobby. 15 secs left to join the mission. If the player now spend more time than 15 sec on loading the mission + get passed the briefing screen. He will get kicked.

    Are you using any plugins?

    Can you also send me Bec log files?

  24. Posted

    Nice.

    Didnt see this before now.

    Will try it out as soon as i get time.

    Reading code that is properly indented is almost as satisfying as like looking at a beautiful woman:)

    As a request|Idea.

    What about adding in a class for Sqf compression ?

    What i mean is, remove all newlines, indents, comments, unnecessary spaces, rename long varnames to shorter ones and so forth.

    Kind of like a obfuscator.

    It will be a miniscule performance gain. But optimizing code is always a good thing imo.

    Example

    python sqfIndenter.py -i myscript.sqf <-- will ident the code and save it as a new file

    python sqfIndenter.py -c myscript.sqf <-- will compress the code and save it as a new file

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