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Im sure they have and im sure its a big conspiracy.

The stfu image was a joke, he posted a pic, and so did I. The other 2 flamed me, so I flamed back. But nevermind, You overlooked everyone elses posts but mine. Thats nice, choose to attack me, but not the guy who started it.

No youve got it frisbee.Yes we are good cause we kill the bad guys, rebuild and help the civilians, dont kill them intentionally. Saddam killed the civilians and let the bad guys do whatever the hell they wanted. I dont get how you guys can be so against freeing people from saddam. WTF? No, putting panties on a head and cutting off a head are entirely different. And you make it seem like every soldier out there is doing it. Im sure those were isolated incedents. Whereas beheadings are standard for terrorists. Again, you try to pin the actions of a few on everyone. The policy was to do anything necessary to extract vital intel that could save lives. A few pychos thought they could get away with doing it to anyone they wanted, but we stopped that. There is a time and place for that, for getting terrorists to talk, fine, but to use it to get off, is wrong.

You really think so? You think the mods here(who are liberal and have opposing views) are going to be fair and not just adress me for flaming like everyone else does? When nobody here cares to attack the guy who started the flames, I seriously doubt how fair this forum is. Like I said, there were un troops on the ground. Un troops guarding refugees, yet they were ordered to pull back, ensuring that they would be slaughtered. In spite of this its still all our fault as always eh??

Well why dont you do someting about it. When they make unfair comments speak out. Again, why dont you tell the other guy to stop flaimbaiting? I can have decent mature conversations, but if people flame me, then I see no reason to attempt to discuss things reasonably with them when they show no desire to. Noone said it would be easy or pretty, but clearly those things show that it isnt as bad as you think, they prove that we are winning. We started investigating in jan, put them on leave in jan. Essentially we put a stop to it then.

Good for him. So your saying abuse by us, is the same as killing hostages? Let me get this right, putting panties on a guys head is the same as terrorists cutting someone's head off? Riiiiight. If you would read my posts I have repeatedly said I condemn the abuse of prisoners. We are the good guys. A few sadistic MPs dosent change anything. Its like saying just cause most terrorists are islamic, Islam is evil, or its like saying all german soldiers were die hard nazis, or that all soviets fighting the russians were die hard reds.

No, we didnt support the league and thats why it failed. Oh sure ban me, what about that other asshole. I can keep it civil, but if others choose not to, im not obligated to have a civil conversation with them either. Reconmerc, stop sucking that other guys nuts and contribute to the thread, or stfu.

You even read my links about our progress? Muqtada backtraking? And the head of AQ telling osama they are fucked? But never mind, its a quagmire or whatever, who cares about all that. Why not? They have shown their worthlessness time and time again, so why let them do it again, and let millions more die? Again you dont get it. Im saying that what we did is wrong, but we should move on, we took care of this in january, but you guys keep on beating a dead horse. Dont you think its wrong to just focus on something we fixed?

Mogidishu falied cause peps in washington(clinton) refused to give them everything they needed to win. RAN, do us all a favor and go eat shit and kill yourself. Why the hell would you think im a terrorist? That just stupid. Forgot to adress the whole human rights watch. Oh wait, that one says the same thing yet is crdible even to you, forgot it. Ever hear of the nofly zone? We helped them that way.

We didnt go to rawanda cause as usual the un pussed out. We did fine in somalia, but you would never know cause all you guys care about is one failure out of allot of sucess. WTF? There were un troops in rawanda, so dont tell me they didnt want to send them, cause they were there, and they still didnt do shit in true un fasion. Yeah we were reaal late, thats what you get when you try to get the un to do its job. Same with iraq, with all the time it took to try to get them to do their job the wmds were probably in syria or buried already. The un is a joke cause it has proven time and time again that it is unwilling to do its job. Our fault? No its teh french and others who refuse. Without the US there would be no un. Just like the league of nations, we give them most of their troops and money, participate in most of their ops, the un is even in the US. And it is a force to be reckoned with, (korea, etc) when people actually do their jobs its very effective, but when they dont its utterly useless.

So what? Its ok for them to cut our heads off but when we put some panties on a guys head were the bad guys? We may be held to a higher standard and we keep it up. We arent cutting peoples heads off, what we did is nothing compared to what they did, so why do you make a big deal out of a problem we adressed months ago yet ignore terrorists chopping peoples heads off yesterday? Where are you getting that from? Im saying that if what we did was so awful where is your outrage for saddam's genocide, terrorists brutality and all that? Seems like you dont give a fuck what anyone but else does. Your just there waiting for us to mess up and when we do you jump on it regardless if other crap is going on that is 10 times worse.

Really not genocide? I think the thousands of dead kurds would disagree. http://hrw.org/campaigns/iraq/#Anfal http://www.puk.org/web/htm/news/nws/news031015b.html http://www.khrw.org/torturesandgenocide.html Failure cause of clinton. It isnt, we put a stop to it in january, what more do you want?

What the few troops involved did was wrong, they were punished. But where is the outcry from europe, liberals and the mid east when they cut our heads off? All im saying is that you always blow thing out of proportion when it makes us look bad. Those pics are still on the news, but news of the beheadings fade in a cuple of days. WTF? Where is your outrage now? I dont know where the fuck you think im comparing our troops to terrorists. All im saying is that everyone gets so upset when we do something, yet fix it, but noone cares that the other guys are cutting peoples heads off.

We did go to rawanda, a bit too late, but better late than never, and we still were able to save lives. Rawanda is a good example of how much a joke the un is. What are you talking about, the gassing of the kurds with the intention to wipe them out is genocide. Gee you make it seem like either way its no big deal. All that stuff was ABUSE from a few sadistic fucks that dont represent us all. IT was investigated as far back as january for fucks sake. We investigated and put a stop to it, did saddam? NO, so dont compare us to him.

Walker nice conspiracy theory, but no proof. Whats the big deal? Your just call the Bush admin liers, what about the french, germans, and the un? They all had similar conclusions, we all did. Nukes or not the guy was still hiding something, NONE of you has yet to tell me why he would rather be attacked than to come clean. Walker we are killing al queda terrorists, in iraq. You have to understand that we cant send all those guys to afghanistan, it would do more harm than good. Look at operation anaconda, one of the largest US offensives in afghanistan. It failed, why? They had to build up all the troops in the region and of course the terrorists fled. Thats why tons of troops wont do anygood over there. Were better of with light fighters like the marines, sf, rangers, and seals, cause everyone else is either not trained or equipt to fight in the mountains of afghanistan. They are needed in iraq where they are able to kill terrorists with ease. This whole beheading thing is BS. They get pissed cause we put panties on some guys head, yet they cut off our guys head. What more reasons do you want to go in there and kill these animals and stopp more from spawning?