foxer

NM ,going stay outta this.........

And I am sure they can slap you with a hefty bill? Most likely, yes.However,Most of the time people don't pay it.Can the hospital do anything about it ? Nope.Even if they come in next week.They still have to treat the person.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/12/12/iran.nuclear/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/09/iran.nuclear/index.html Iran may start building nuclear weapons.I doubt the US would want to deal with another north korea. http://www.cnn.com/2002....ex.html However russia said their not.I guess were see in a few years.

I disagree on how they do it.Screaming for help,and troops coming to your aid,then blowing yourself up.That's kinda wrong.If they seen troops and sped off to them to blow them and yourself ,ok, i can understand that.I can't stand people asking for help and then killed themself and people trying to help them.Their taking the goodwill of the soldiers and costing them their lifes.

A woman, who appeared to be pregnant, got out of the car and began "screaming in fear" at the checkpoint, about 11 miles (18 km) southwest of the Hadithah Dam in Iraq, a Central Command statement said. Three coalition troops walked toward the car and it blew up, U.S. Central Command spokesman Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks said, citing initial reports. Man that's pretty screwed up.Sad,Thing about this is when someone really needs help their(coalition troops ) going think twice about it. http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/04/sprj.irq.car.bomb/index.html

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 28 2003,21:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"But if there's an war issue,they always come to us first.No one like cops until it helps them.They don't like speeding tickets because it hurts them.But when they need help their be calling 911(america) ." In my experience, America often takes the initiative. Rarely has anyone asked America to go to war with another country.<span id='postcolor'> Your probably right.

Tovarish , I agree US did setup some puppet goverments.However those were in the communist years.When everyone was scared of a communist.Atlleast give me something recent.Like 1990 until now. I agree on NK.However though,where is russia and china ? That is their puppet gov't they added in the world.Atleast america is taking care of saddam,If like you said is american made puppet guy.

Attacking nations without UN's permission for one. And the fact that Bush has managed to make the US one of the most dispised and disrespected western nations in the world community. People used to look favorably on America. But there are not many people around any more with that opinion. I agree with that.Maybe we should have waited a year for the UN to decide what to do.If the us waited a year,and there was some countries that didn't support a war with iraq.Plus there was proof iraq was still hiding stuff.Would you then say the US tried ? Or would you just be saying they should have got the UN permission? But some of it is envy.Also because we bomb alot of people.Face it though,america is the world police man.Who made us that way ? I don't know.But if there's an war issue,they always come to us first.No one like cops until it helps them.They don't like speeding tickets because it hurts them.But when they need help their be calling 911(america) .

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Mar. 28 2003,21:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (foxer @ Mar. 28 2003,15:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Destruction of Iraq I believe the US/UN would rebuild it for the heart and minds of the muslim culture.So there won't be terrorist.<span id='postcolor'> Oh I don't know, do you realize the immense cost of building structures of the quality that Baghdad has??? Â They cost much more than western ones, trust me, some buildings there are works of art and this can't be replaced by our technology so easily.<span id='postcolor'> That's when oil comes in to help rebuild iraq.Unless someone else thinks there's something in iraq to sell for the world ?

When i mean china and russia never steps up to the plate for the UN.I mean they never do nothing for the international community as in telling NK to back down and other crap like that.

I am against doing it without the permition of the UN. I am against it being done with the US at the helm, since I fear there are ulterior interests. I agree we should have got UN permission.But i believe some countries would have never support a war on iraq no matter what.The US(some europe countries also) has always step up to the plate for the UN.I mean we never seen russia/china step up to the plate.That's not a knock on them or anything. I am against what the American foreign policy has turned in to. Can you tell me ? Civilian casualties It's too late,it's been happening for 12 years,or 20 something years.Up to you to pick. Destruction of Iraq I believe the US/UN would rebuild it for the heart and minds of the muslim culture.So there won't be terrorist. Increased world-wide terrorism I agree there will be alot of new terrorist because of this war.But what about what bin laden said about 2 million iraqi children died of sanctions.Wouldn't that also create terrorist ?So it's already happening before the war started. It's illegal we can argue all day about is it illegal are not.I agree we should have try harder to do something in the UN though. Sets a bad example for future conflicts I agree.

Here's a question for all the people thinking it's wrong for the Us to try and take saddam outta power. Why are you against this war.Keep it short.please

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 28 2003,20:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> Would you surrender if Iraq invaded the US? Depends.If my gov't was saddam,yes i would.There would be no reason to fight for someone that is going die in a year time.Plus if i hated saddam,and knew he was never going leave or voted out,and his sons would take over after he died of old age,yes i would really surrender then.I think these people are blind though.We should be dropping the truth.About how the us/brits/other countries (allies) in the first gulf war went in to kuwait and kick saddam soldiers out.Then gave it back to the kuwaiti gov't.With really no special treatment ask from them.Except a military base in the area.Which gives them defense. The only reason they didnt bomb for a month was because they thought the Iraqis would surrender and be happy when "liberated". This obviously was not the case. As stated many times, most of the Iraqis hate Saddam. But they hate being invaded even more. And I can't blaim them. Atleast the US gave them a chance to surrender.Even though they didn't want to.But i guess you can't give props to the US for that ?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 28 2003,20:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 28 2003,205)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That you support the troops. It has no political implications, you just realize that their are soldiers who have families and are doing their job and you support that and want them to come home as fast as possible.<span id='postcolor'> So it is a lame-ass platitude. I that case I support both US and Iraqi troops since I realize that their are soldiers who have families and are doing their job. It's an extreme overtrivialization of the issue. If you disagree with the war, do you then tell your troops that they are doing a good job and that they should continue doing it? Or are you giving your support by demonstrating agianst the war with the hope of saving the lives of the troops? Â Those are both ways of "support" and they are as I see it mutually exclusive.<span id='postcolor'> US does give an option for them to surrender though.Iraq shots the allies soldiers in the head,and take some pows.So i'm hoping that all the iraqis surrender.I mean you gotta give props to the US military and some people in the white house.They didn't bomb iraqi soldiers for a month and then move in.They sent in the troops first. Winters,i don't want to be nosey or anything.But how did you get shot ?

I'm on Cable.But speed doesn't matter.If it did i think japan would be number 1,i heard everyone over there has cable modems. I don't think the war should be going on,i believe they should have waited for next year.But see how it is,i rather us soldiers win it.War is fought with bullets,you know this. If us soldiers aren't winning it ,their dying. So i support the troops.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 28 2003,19:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"It is possible to support the troops from home, come down off that high horse of yours." Yeah, it also happens to be the easiest, least risky way of doing it. From your home, in front of the TV with a case of beer and a Big Mac, watching CNN's latest soap "Showdown Iraq" while chanting... - Go USA, I support our troops!! I reckon Hipp Hipp could make a lovely and humerous clip about that... (Hipp Hipp = A swedish comedy show)<span id='postcolor'> That's it.I hate how you damn euros stereotype us americans.We all hate mcdonalds.So it wouldn't be a damn big mac.It would probably be a taco or something.Only reason mcdonalds is still alive in the US is because of little kids,i haven't ate there in like a year or 2.Also there is another stereo type thing you said in your post.CNN,do you think we watch all watch CNN ? Atleast on my tv we have Foxnews,cnn,msnbc,bbc,international news channel(which has french,brits,german,japan,chinese,other other  news).Would you like it if i stereotype you as little wimps,and never show any force and always have to call in the americans to get you guys outta a jam. What's wrong with supporting the troops anyways ? Is it better to support the iraqi one then the american ones ? --edit also we do have the internet,So we can get more coverage then most europeans can.Why ? Because there are like 60% of americans are connected to the internet.Plus there are public places that has free internet use.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 28 2003,19:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 28 2003,19<!--emo&)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just as bad as the Iraqis shooting thier own and sending missles into market squares.<span id='postcolor'> Sending missiles into market squares? USA did that, not Iraq. Any amateur can see that the damage at the market could not have been caused by a SAM. I feel silly for having to explain this since this is really basic stuff. Anti aircraft missiles don't have significant explosive warheads - they have a fragmentation warheads. They don't make large holes - they spray the area with shrapnel. In that market place, a significant part of the building was destroyed. There was a large crater. There were very little or no signs of shrapnel damage. This the most obvious proof, anybody who has seen the effects on buildings of a fragmentation warhead knows what I'm talking about. There is no way in hell that it was a SAM that misfired. It was a cruise missile alright. The damage shows that. It's a damn shame that reporters are so militarily illiterate. The Pentagon insinuations that it might have been a SAM could have been easily dismissed directly when the first reports came in.<span id='postcolor'> Do you have a picture of it ?

Last war there wasn't any rumors he was dead or injured was there ? When the war started they was rumor that one iraqi general guy left.But he had to get on tv to say he hasn't.Now why hasn't saddam did the samething ? Don't say those 2 tapes are proof that is alive though.

Do you think saddam is dead/injured ? I'm starting to think so.Wouldn't he pose with the POW's to show them he 's not dead/injured.

OOPs,i mean western europe. --edit A satellite dish and a computer is no guarantee of having a clue of what is going on. Want evidence? Read your own posts I don't have an satellite dish.However if i really cared about the world problems i would look into it more,but i don't.But when comes to bombing an country i would check to make sure .I mean i come here to get some info about what going on in iraq.Iraqi people don't know what's going on over there.Unless they believe they killed like 200,000 us soldiers or soo.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tracy_t @ Mar. 27 2003,21:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You are right, I am anti-war. Nothing wrong with that. Unless of course, you disagree... ? As for wanting to publish stories of coalition disasters, yes, I want to know what's really going on out there. There's nothing wrong with having some truth in amongst the lies. I'm Scottish and I support the UK troops, but Christ what are they dieing for? "Liberation" of Iraq? It seems they don't WANT to be liberated!<span id='postcolor'> War only been going for an week now.Give it some time.Shouldn't be jumping ships in a week that they don't want get liberated.Give it a month.Hopefully they do want to.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tracy_t @ Mar. 27 2003,21:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's scandalous how the so-called "news" sources like the BBC & CNN cover up coalition disasters and losses. On the BBC page it looks like everythings going well and the Iraqis are capitulating, yet al-jazeera is reporting otherwise. Hmm, let's see: 1000 Iraqis killed - no UK/US losses reported... shite! 33 Iraqi tanks destroyed in a major firefight - no UK/US losses reported... shite! Oh hold on, a major chipped a fingernail If everything's fine then WHY THE HELL are the Americans bringing another heavy division over? Oh let me see, to guard the 8000 POWs (what happened to them?) All I can say is "thank God for the Internet" - the truth will out sooner rather than later.<span id='postcolor'> Think about airpower.also artillery,plus how well train on the iraqi force ? Why are they on a suicide mission ? Us/UK is hella alot better then their stuff.I really doubt al-jazeera is fair. If everything's fine then WHY THE HELL are the Americans bringing another heavy division over? Oh let me see, to guard the 8000 POWs (what happened to them?) They probably thought the cities in the south would not fight.See how their fighting,they have to bring in more people to help in the southern cities and baghdad. All I can say is "thank God for the Internet" - the truth will out sooner rather than later. Truth .People that dislike america(some dislike gov't ,some dislike america in whole) will be the unfair one,and post it as fact,and people who likes america or in the war will post their pro-war news coverage,to support them.There is no fairness,it's just bunch of crap. You seen like an anti war person,so you would post anything that has been bad for us/uk soldiers.

6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 27 2003,216)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (foxer @ Mar. 27 2003,20:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (turms @ Mar. 27 2003,20:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For those who still think that the Shi'iites are on USA side,read this . Article also gives a hint on what happened (or did not happen) in Basra<span id='postcolor'> That link is kinda BS.First anything coming outta iraq is BS.So they don't support US/UK ? I doubt that,i believe their scared to come out how we let like 60,000 of them die ,when we say we would support them.So i'm thinking they think we will leave them again.<span id='postcolor'> I think it is a very good Reuters article. What some people here don't seem to understand that while people there might not like Saddam, they hate the US and the US involvement in the Mid East. I don't know where you get the delusion that they like you there. These are territories where Osama bin Laden is a hero and you are the "Great Satan". The question in the end is who they hate more, Saddam or USA. And I think we've gotten that question answered by now. ... unless you wish to claim that a couple of thousand of Iraqi paramilitary forces are forcing 1,500,000 people in Basra to support Iraq. And this is a fact obviously entirely overlooked by the US/UK military planners. If there is any city where they really hate Saddam it's Basra. But apparently they hate the US even more.<span id='postcolor'> ... unless you wish to claim that a couple of thousand of Iraqi paramilitary forces are forcing 1,500,000 people in Basra to support Iraq. I don't think half of those people know what's going on.I mean we don't even know.All we know is their is a battle in the city. Sorry,i don't believe anything that comes outta baghdad,I mean we all know what happens when someone tell the truth in baghdad. I think these people are lost though.I mean they don't own an satellite dish,if their found with one they will get killed.I doubt they have a computer ,so no internet.Do they even know whats going on in the world ? I agree the military planner fux up,really bad too. Give it up Denoir. I've tried to tell several of these people that they might not be considered as the saviour of the free world in the middle east - especially not in Iraq. It just doesn't add up for a person that obviously choses to swallow Washingtons point of view. Some people just want simple answers: good or evil, wrong or right, black or white - and in between there is nothing! We don't know if they want the america system or not .Your problem is your thinking too much,keep it simple.America(or something close to it) way is the best way.Why you think (western)europe and america,japan,south korea,etc etc is soo far ahead in their own region ? err wait. This doesn't belong here,if you wanna talk about it bring it up over there. in the other thread.Plus what you said can be said right back to you.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (turms @ Mar. 27 2003,20:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For those who still think that the Shi'iites are on USA side,read this . Article also gives a hint on what happened (or did not happen) in Basra<span id='postcolor'> That link is kinda BS.First anything coming outta iraq is BS.So they don't support US/UK ? I doubt that,i believe their scared to come out how we let like 60,000 of them die ,when we say we would support them.So i'm thinking they think we will leave them again.

............ casualties Function:noun Inflected Form:plural -ties Date:15th century 3 a : a military person lost through death, wounds, injury, sickness, internment, or capture or through being missing in action  So it doesn't just mean death.Now is DOD covering on the injury/wounded soldiers ? I believe so.