MrHamburgler

I've been eagerly reading this topic here and there over time since I found it from googling, I currently have a ~5 year old i5 3570k with 16gb ddr3 (although currently down to 12gb due to needing to rma a dead stick) with an rx480 on a z77 asrock extreme4m mobo and just doing vanilla a3 missions running around with friends I find my cpu eaten up quite a bit...I also multitask and occasionally stream and wondered if it's worth it to pay the price for maybe the cheaper 12 thread zen with 16gb fast ddr4 3200mhz+ ....does speed or good latency matter more? I do know using the most recent bios and fast ram seems to go best with zen, although a few here have posted good smooth results even from using the cheaper 2400mhz ram. My fps is decent all things considered, ivy bridge is still pretty good IPC wise, intel really hasn't increased ipc much since sandy bridge back in 2011.....getting an expensive new kaby lake just seems like a horrible value for me tbh vs getting a zen with more threads/cores...I must commend AMD, they went from core2quad era ipc with the sucky per core FX series to haswell-ish level ipc per core with the Ryzens. Apparently the windows10 content creators update improved performance a bit too, and I have heard of a w10 "game mode" recently but I'm still on win7 tbh and don't keep super up to date on windows news. I'm just an average joe gamer but I would like some futureproof-ness in my rig, I find my i5 getting eaten up bad just doing 720p streaming at normal settings. I suppose I could switch to the AMD encoder but many online say that looks way worse than x264 unless you pump the bitrate up more. thinking about upgrading to the 12 thread zen since I think the 16 thread is a bit overkill, but the 1600 seems an amazing value, essentially an expensive high end intel x99 haswell 12 thread cpu for pretty cheap....it would be lovely if cheaper 2400mhz ram would work well....150 bucks for 3200mhz+ ddr4 is a big turnoff tbh, also been thinking of just getting an older i7 used and throwing it into my 1155 mobo. I wouldn't need a new mobo and expensive new ram in addition to the cpu in that case. I know the newer intel are technically still better, but once you consider they're clocked much higher than the new AMD cpu the actual differences would be really small if both clocked to the same speed I'd imagine. What would be a decent mobo without needlessly spending? I'd just use one gpu and overclock a bit to maybe 4ghz, heard the included Wraith cooler is actually very respectable. Also plz no fanboy wars, I'm not a zealot of either company, and have used both in the past, found an 8320E at 4ghz pleasant to use besides Arma and DayZ fps being low, which is why I went back to my older i5 for the much better ipc, but the 4 cores/4 threads just isn't cutting it for what I do. Many say intel didn't "have" to increase their ipc much over the years due to AMD dragging their feet releasing better cpu's, and that may be true, but they shot themselves in the foot tbh since people looking to upgrade from slightly older intel pc's see how the newer intel cpu's are a bad value now, kaby would be what, only about 15% more per core than my ivy bridge? Doubt that'd be noticeable in real world usage...A Zen would still be stronger per core than my ivy bridge.