Small plane slams into milan skyscraper

[Die Alive 0]

Small Plane Slams Into Milan Skyscraper

Thu Apr 18,12:20 PM ET

MILAN (Reuters) - A small tourist plane hit a skyscraper in central Milan Thursday, setting the top floors of the 30-story building on fire, a police official said.

Eyewitnesses reported hearing a loud explosion from the office block, which houses the administrative headquarters of the local Lombardy region and sits next to the city's central train station.

"I heard a strange bang so I went to the window and outside I saw the windows of the Pirelli building blown out and then I saw smoke coming from them," said Gianluca Liberto, an engineer who was working in the area. The building is known as the Pirelli skyscraper but the Italian tire and cable company does not operate out of the building. It is one of the symbols of Italy's financial capital and is 127 meters-high.

"A Piper plane has crashed into the building," a police official said. He added he had no further details.

[DarkLight 0]

Yeah, i heard about it too. This world sux ass man, it really does.

Human beings are sooo sick!

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

A post on a different forum from a guy called "snagrat":

"Just seen it on Newsround and they said that the pilot did radio in a SOS with engine failure!

So maybe it was an accident! Lets hope so!"

He is from the UK.

[Sadico 1]

Yeah, CNN says they radioed a sos before crashing.

The building is not endangered, it's made of concrete (unlike the twin towers).

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ April 19 2002,01:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, CNN says they radioed a sos before crashing.

The building is not endangered, it's made of concrete (unlike the twin towers).<span id='postcolor'>

Concrete will crumble when it is heated enough, and you don't build a 127-meter structure without steel beams.

The reason why that building won't come down is because you don't have 10,000+ of gallons of jet fuel burning in it.

[Sadico 1]

I meant that concrete is more resistant to fire than steel, not that it is inmune. Concrete will crumble if you heat it like hell, but steel at 900 ÅŸC behaves like chewing gum. Also it's true that the piper carries a bit less fuel than the b767

[Tex -USMC- 0]

hmm. usually when a pilot experiences engine trouble, he tries to deadstick his plane into an emergency landing. Crashing into the tallest thing you can find is not part of that procedure (maybe they teach European pilots differently... ).

Lets just hope it was an accident... not that that'll bring back any lives lost...

[LordZach 0]

maybe he lost controls too. who knows. too early to tell but without speculation we wouldn't need an offtopic board.

[Sadico 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Crashing into the tallest thing you can find is not part of that procedure (maybe they teach European pilots differently... ).

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No, i don't think so

[advocatexxx 0]

Italians call 30-story buildings skyscrapers ? We in New York call them condo houses.

[LordZach 0]

there's a 8 story building downtown and everyone acts like it's the empire state building. must be comparing it to surroundings.

[Die Alive 0]

I lived in a village where a 2 story building was the tallest, and it even had an elevator (lift)!

-=Die Alive=-

[Longinius 0]

"Italians call 30-story buildings skyscrapers ? We in New York call them condo houses."

On the other hand, Italians only lose a couple of people if a plane crashes into the building while Americans lose a couple of thousand. Bigger isnt always better.

[DarkLight 0]

Very nice Longinius

In Antwerp (a city where i live pretty close to) there's a building that's about 120 meters, i think, it's one of the highest buildings there. At least we can see a bit from the sky

Oh well, i wouldn't want to live in a town full of huuuuge buildings.

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ April 19 2002,03:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very nice Longinius

In Antwerp (a city where i live pretty close to) there's a building that's about 120 meters, i think, it's one of the highest buildings there. At least we can see a bit from the sky

Oh well, i wouldn't want to live in a town full of huuuuge buildings.<span id='postcolor'>

It's so you are above sea level!

[rpc007 0]

well the plane that hit the italian skyscraper was only a small private plane carrying 90 gallons of gas, and it made a huge hole

[Wobble 0]

On the other hand, Italians only lose a couple of people if a plane crashes into the building while Americans lose a couple of thousand. Bigger isnt always better.

actually.. it was 2 buildings, there were 2 planes each being 40 times the size of the piper and carrying jet fule and moving at at least 4x the speed.. and the estimated death toll is at 2500 and declining..

but whatever you say...

[Guest]

big buildings + big planes = 2500 dead

small building + small plane = 3 dead

Bigger is not always better.. which was his point.

[barret 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ April 18 2002,18:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A post on a different forum from a guy called "snagrat":

"Just seen it on Newsround and they said that the pilot did radio in a SOS with engine failure!

So maybe it was an accident! Lets hope so!"

He is from the UK.<span id='postcolor'>

Firstly, Sos, engine problems don't mean u go and run into the TALLEST building in Milan. Secondly, before Sept 11, there was a 17 yearold in florida who rammed his plane into a building (and no one talked about it). But for the milan one, that guy should have been able to avoid the building, airplanes still have hydralik power even when the engine shuts off (its called batteries).

[Die Alive 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (barret @ April 18 2002,16:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Secondly, before Sept 11, there was a 17 yearold  in florida who rammed his plane into a building (and no one talked about it).  But for the milan one, that guy should have been able to avoid the  building, airplanes still have hydralik power even when the engine shuts off (its called batteries).<span id='postcolor'>

It was AFTER september 11 and the kid was 15 years old.

-=Die Alive=-

[barret 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ April 18 2002,22:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">carrying jet fule<span id='postcolor'>

Well to tell you what was on CNN (after I woke up) that same excat plane uses Kerosene (jet fuel).

[barret 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ April 18 2002,23:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (barret @ April 18 2002,16:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Secondly, before Sept 11, there was a 17 yearold  in florida who rammed his plane into a building (and no one talked about it).  But for the milan one, that guy should have been able to avoid the  building, airplanes still have hydralik power even when the engine shuts off (its called batteries).<span id='postcolor'>

It was AFTER september 11 and the kid was 15 years old.

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Sry bro, I hate my MICROSOFT KEYBOARD. Whut u wrote is whut I ment.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LordZach @ April 18 2002,196)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">there's a 8 story building downtown and everyone acts like it's the empire state building.  must be comparing it to surroundings.<span id='postcolor'>

I don't know about people in New York, but us here in Europe prefer to see the sun and the sky rather than some stupid building.

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (barret @ April 19 2002,06:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ April 18 2002,18:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A post on a different forum from a guy called "snagrat":

"Just seen it on Newsround and they said that the pilot did radio in a SOS with engine failure!

So maybe it was an accident! Lets hope so!"

He is from the UK.<span id='postcolor'>

Firstly, Sos, engine problems don't mean u go and run into the TALLEST building in Milan.  Secondly, before Sept 11, there was a 17 yearold  in florida who rammed his plane into a building (and no one talked about it).  But for the milan one, that guy should have been able to avoid the  building, airplanes still have hydralik power even when the engine shuts off (its called batteries).<span id='postcolor'>

The incident in Tampa, Florida you are talking about happened in January of 2002, so it took place well after the WTC attack on 9/11/01.

And if you think nobody in the US talked about it, you must have been living under a rock. Oh, and the kid was just 15 yeards old, not 17.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (barret @ April 18 2002,23:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ April 18 2002,18:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A post on a different forum from a guy called "snagrat":

"Just seen it on Newsround and they said that the pilot did radio in a SOS with engine failure!

So maybe it was an accident! Lets hope so!"

He is from the UK.<span id='postcolor'>

Firstly, Sos, engine problems don't mean u go and run into the TALLEST building in Milan.  Secondly, before Sept 11, there was a 17 yearold  in florida who rammed his plane into a building (and no one talked about it).  But for the milan one, that guy should have been able to avoid the  building, airplanes still have hydralik power even when the engine shuts off (its called batteries).<span id='postcolor'>

Maybe he was too busy talking on the Radio, maybe he lost consciousness after that, maybe he didn't have engine problems but something else, maybe he just panicked.