topas 1 Posted April 10, 2010 Polish President Lech Kaczynski was killed early this morning when the plane he was traveling in with his wife crashed at a western Russian airport, http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/04/10/poland.president.plane.crash/index.html?hpt=T1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ballistic09 241 Posted April 10, 2010 Wow, that's shocking and terrible news... I don't know who he is, or how good of a leader he was, but I assume it's a terrible national tragedy for Poland. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sas troop 0 Posted April 10, 2010 together with his wife, Chief of the Army, Franciszek Gągor, Chief of the Air Force Andrzej Błasik and Chief of Special Forces Dariusz Zawadka and many other ministers. Army seems to be paralised, curently role of president took Bronisław Komorowski, who is Marshall of the Sejm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudayev 27 Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) I'm shattered. Best men ... White-Red heart. White Eagle cries. Nothing will be the same in Poland now. Bless their souls, Lord. President and First Lady, Former President-in exile, Parliament and Senate Marshalls, Chief of the National Security Bureau, Government & Parliament members, Armed forces Generals, Catholic, Orthodox and Evangelic church representatives, Veterans and their families. And many more. 80-100 people are no more. Faces you see daily on the television and news. Cursed place, mass murder site where the soviet NKVD murdered 20.000 Polish generals, intelectuals, influental people. They were all flying there for solemn celebrations of 70th anniversary of the Katyn massacre. The same place cursed place devours another group of irreplaceable people. 10.IV.2010 The Darkest day. Unspeakable. Edited April 10, 2010 by Sudayev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuIoodporny 45 Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) Many priceless people have died, most notable 2 historical presidents of Poland. Fully agree with Sudayev. Bless their souls, Lord. Edited April 10, 2010 by zGuba Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rainbow 0 Posted April 10, 2010 Horrible loss for my country. Rest in peace... [*] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laqueesha 474 Posted April 10, 2010 Not only the President and his wife, but several important government and military officials as well. We all send our condolences to Poland and all Polish members of the BIS forums. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Spoetnik 10 Posted April 10, 2010 Horrible news indeed! our tought go out to those all affected and their families and to the polish people. A sad day indeed:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sas troop 0 Posted April 10, 2010 LIST IS NOT FULL AND NOT YET CONFIRMED: Pan Lech KACZYŃSKI President of PolandPani Maria KACZYŃSKA his wife OFFICIAL DELEGATION 1. Pan Ryszard KACZOROWSKI former President of Poland on exile 2. Pan Krzysztof PUTRA Vicemarshal of the Sejm 3. Pan Jerzy SZMAJDZIŃSKI Vicemarshal of the Sejm 4. Pani Krystyna BOCHENEK Vicemarshal of the Senate 5. Pan Jerzy BAHR Ambassador of Poland in Russian Federation 6. Pan WÅ‚adysÅ‚aw STASIAK Principal of President's Office 7. Pan Aleksander SZCZYGÅO Chef of National Security Bureau 8. Pan Jacek SASIN Sekretarz Stanu, Deputy of Mr. Stasiak 9. Pan PaweÅ‚ WYPYCH Secretary of State in president's office 10. Pan Mariusz HANDZLIK Undersecretary of State in President's Office 11. Pan Andrzej KREMER Undersecretary of State in Ministery of Foreign Affairs 12. Pan StanisÅ‚aw KOMOROWSKI Undersectretary in MON 13. Pan Tomasz MERTA Undersectretary w MKiDN 14. Gen. Franciszek GÄ„GOR Chief of staff in Polish Army 15. Pan Andrzej PRZEWOŹNIK Secretary ROPWiM 16. Pan Maciej PÅAÅ»YŃSKI Principal of association „Wspólnota Polska†(Polish Community) 17. Pan Mariusz KAZANA Director of diplomatic protocol MSZ Representatives of Parliament of Poland 1. Pan Leszek DEPTUÅA Member of Parliament 2. Pan Grzegorz DOLNIAK Member of Parliament 3. Pani Grażyna GĘSICKA Member of Parliament 4. Pan PrzemysÅ‚aw GOSIEWSKI Member of Parliament 5. Pan Sebastian KARPINIUK Member of Parliament 6. Pani Izabela JARUGA – NOWACKA Member of Parliament 7. Pan Zbigniew WASSERMANN Member of Parliament 8. Pani Aleksandra NATALLI – ÅšWIAT Member of Parliament 10. Pan Arkadiusz RYBICKI Member of Parliament 11. Pani Jolanta SZYMANEK – DERESZ Member of Parliament 12. Pan WiesÅ‚aw WODA Member of Parliament 13. Pan Edward WOJTAS Member of Parliament 14. Pani Janina FETLIŃSKA Member of Parliament 15. Pan StanisÅ‚aw ZAJÄ„C Member of Parliament Accompanying People 1. Pan Janusz KOCHANOWSKI Polish Ombudsman 2. Pan SÅ‚awomir SKRZYPEK chairman of National Bank of Poland 3. Pan Janusz KURTYKA chairman of Institute of National Remembrance 4. Pan Janusz KRUPSKI Leader of Department of Combatans and people persecuted REPRESENTATIVE OF CHURCHES AND RELIGIONS 1. Ks. Bp. gen. dyw. Tadeusz PÅOSKI Chaplain of Polish Army 2. Abp gen. bryg. Miron CHODAKOWSKI Eastern Orthodox Church chaplain of Polish Army 3. Ks. pÅ‚k Adam PILCH Field evangelical priesthood 4. Ks. ppÅ‚k Jan OSIŃSKI Chaplain of Polish Army REPRESENTATIVES OF KATYŃ'S VICTIMS FAMILIES AND OTHER ASSOCIATIONS 1. Pan Edward DUCHNOWSKI Main secretary of Association of Syberian Polish 2. Ks. praÅ‚at BronisÅ‚aw GOSTOMSKI 3. Ks. Józef JONIEC Chairman of Association "Parafiada" 4. Ks. ZdzisÅ‚aw KRÓL chaplain of Warsaw's KAtyÅ„'s victims families 1987-2007 5. Ks. Andrzej KWAÅšNIK chaplain of Federation of KatyÅ„'s victims families 6. Pan Tadeusz LUTOBORSKI 7. Pani Bożena ÅOJEK chairman of Polish KatyÅ„ Foundation 8. Pan Stefan MELAK chairman of KatyÅ„ Committee 9. Pan StanisÅ‚aw MIKKE vice-chairman ROPWiM 10. Pani BronisÅ‚awa ORAWIEC - LOFFLER 11. Pani Katarzyna PISKORSKA 12. Pan Andrzej SARIUSZ – SKÄ„PSKI chairman of Federation of KatyÅ„'s victims families 13. Pan Wojciech SEWERYN 14. Pan Leszek SOLSKI 15. Pani Teresa WALEWSKA – PRZYJAÅKOWSKA Foundation „Golgota Wschodu†16. Pani Gabriela ZYCH 17. Pani Ewa BÄ„KOWSKA granddaughter Gen. bryg. MieczysÅ‚awa SmorawiÅ„skiego 18. Pani Maria BOROWSKA 19. Pan Bartosz BOROWSKI 20. Pan Dariusz MALINOWSKI REPRESENTATIVES OF POLISH ARMY 1. Gen. broni BronisÅ‚aw KWIATKOWSKI Operational Commander of Polish Army 2. Gen. broni pil. Andrzej BÅASIK Chief of the Air Force 3. Gen. dyw. Tadeusz BUK Chief of the Land Forces 4. Gen. dyw. WÅ‚odzimierz POTASIŃSKI Chief of Special Forces 5. WiceadmiraÅ‚ Andrzej KARWETA Chief of the Navy 6. Gen. bryg. Kazimierz GILARSKI Commander of Warsaw Garrison Translated by me, possible mistakes might occur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eJay 1 Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) This is a sad day for my country, probably it's the worst moment of current history. Not only the president and his wife died in this fatal accident, but the whole staff of the army commanders. I'm truly shocked right now :( Edited April 10, 2010 by eJay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chops 111 Posted April 10, 2010 A shocking loss of life. I wish Poland well in coping with this disaster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleman 20 Posted April 10, 2010 Disaster for poland. Rip for all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted April 10, 2010 I´m sorry for the Polish People, they lost many good Leaders in this tragedy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tantal 10 Posted April 10, 2010 R.I.P Cześć ich Pamięci Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted April 10, 2010 A Very Sad Day. I wish to give the Polish people my fullest condolences. Sadly Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max255 59 Posted April 10, 2010 I'm shocked by this and out of words... Reast in Peace all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRailgunner 0 Posted April 10, 2010 Terrible news... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudayev 27 Posted April 10, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash This page will be expanding with the increase of confirmed informations. Partial list of people, details as well. Still waiting for the official flight manifest and black box data. Sources say about 1-3 three people that probably survived with wounds, there is a slim hope however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takko 10 Posted April 10, 2010 I thought generals and staff does fly in seperate planes, since one incident in the 90's, where one plane crash killed a lot of important people at one time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) This is a Black Swan, come back to this day in 5 years. World Wars start this way. P.S. Sincere condolences to Poland, they've suffered enough. Let's hope the Theatre won't be in Central and Western Europe this time. Edited April 10, 2010 by Iroquois Pliskin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted April 10, 2010 Damn, don't put all your eggs in one basket! This gotta be a hard blow to Poland. My condolences. STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipper5 74 Posted April 10, 2010 World Wars start this way. How would World War III break out from this, exactly? :confused: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laqueesha 474 Posted April 10, 2010 How would World War III break out from this, exactly? :confused: No, no, no. He said World Wars, plural. He means World War III and World War IV are going to begin today in subsequent order. Better ready your sticks and stones. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted April 10, 2010 How would World War III break out from this, exactly? :confused: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash Notable passengers. Wait a month for the investigation to finish, if there is ever going to be one. But let's say this is a non-event. Carry on.. ---------- Post added at 01:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:41 PM ---------- Better ready your sticks and stones. :D We had high hopes on this new religion called Global Warming A.K.A. Climate Change to unite the peoples of the Earth, but considering recent developments WAR seems to be the only option again. There is no feature to grey-out off-topic posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites