ran 0 Posted September 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Sep. 11 2002,10:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"DOR do you ever read the history or anything that  isent in the bible. If sow tell me on wich page does it say mass deportation of people is viewed ok in the gods eyes." Woah. You think God is a NICE guy? Come on. God would deport people in a second if he wanted to. The guy flooded the whole world! He sent plagues on people! He levelled entire cities! Like He would give any second thought to deporting people. If anything, his followers are for once very humane if they did that.<span id='postcolor'> i'm thinking about one thing ......... wouldn't the place we're in right now be some kind of hell ? -edit- : god is a biatch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted September 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 11 2002,14:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I can not talk about religion on this board. <span id='postcolor'> Lets not talk about religion then, because the Jews did live there. It is history. They lived alongside many others, ever heard of the Philistines? The 'Land isn't property of the Jews'. It is an area which they now, and once shared with others: The Bible says nothing about 'it all being theirs', it isn't and never was. You can see the 'high water mark' of Solomon's Kingdom does not have it all. The land must be shared and kept holy to those who hold it holy, by peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted September 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Sep. 11 2002,15:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Bible says nothing about 'it all being theirs', it isn't and never was.<span id='postcolor'> It says it in tons of places and defines the borders as well. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can see the 'high water mark' of Solomon's Kingdom does not have it all.<span id='postcolor'> Um... The red and pink areas cover east of the Jordan as well, which includes Judea and Samaria. The yellow, the Phillistines (no relation to today's Palestinians other than a possible ancestorial coincidence here and there) is today's Gaza Strip and thereabouts. Argh! I've gotta break the habit of responding on this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted September 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Sep. 11 2002,16:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Argh! I've gotta break the habit of responding on this thread.<span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted September 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Sep. 11 2002,16:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Sep. 11 2002,15:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Bible says nothing about 'it all being theirs', it isn't and never was.<span id='postcolor'> It says it in tons of places and defines the borders as well. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can see the 'high water mark' of Solomon's Kingdom does not have it all.<span id='postcolor'> Um... The red and pink areas cover east of the Jordan as well, which includes Judea and Samaria. The yellow, the Phillistines (no relation to today's Palestinians other than a possible ancestorial coincidence here and there) is today's Gaza Strip and thereabouts. Argh! I've gotta break the habit of responding on this thread.<span id='postcolor'> My point is that the land has always been shared. The Jews lived along side many other peoples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted September 11, 2002 Well it is hard for me to argue in the way I want, I could gte banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogo 0 Posted September 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 11 2002,23:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well it is hard for me to argue in the way I want, I could gte banned. <span id='postcolor'> I am very shure that no one will ban you for preseting FACTS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted September 11, 2002 Oh but they will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogo 0 Posted September 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 11 2002,23:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh but they will. <span id='postcolor'> They warn you on extreme racial views not on facts come with something presentable and with some links. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam Samson 0 Posted September 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Sep. 11 2002,14:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Sep. 11 2002,10:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"DOR do you ever read the history or anything that  isent in the bible. If sow tell me on wich page does it say mass deportation of people is viewed ok in the gods eyes." Woah. You think God is a NICE guy? Come on. God would deport people in a second if he wanted to. The guy flooded the whole world! He sent plagues on people! He levelled entire cities! bla bla.<span id='postcolor'> i'm thinking about one thing ......... wouldn't the place we're in right now be some kind of hell ? -edit- : god is a biatch<span id='postcolor'> this here world, my fairminded friend, is probably the only heaven you'll ever meet, and the only hell some of us will have to endure. God revealed himself in Jesus. now, what was that about bitches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted September 11, 2002 Fair and square, please do not discuss god in this thread. There is a religious/god thread around. I think 99% of us can agree this is not the right thread, and will not lead us to agreement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted September 11, 2002 Why do I get in trouble for talking about God, but these people do not get in trouble for making fun of Him? The God thread was locked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted September 11, 2002 The Isaelies defeated the people of Palestine a long time ago, and won the country, so since they won it is theirs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 11, 2002 Yes, indeed keep the religious discussions out of this thread. I think there are enough worldly problems in the mid east to discuss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted September 12, 2002 I think religion shoudl be kept out of this thred, but it might be hard. Religion is a major factor in the current problem in the Middle East. Is not all about Religion, but it does have a key role. Israel claims the land due to religion, Palestinia want them out for religious reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted September 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sam Samson @ Sep. 11 2002,23:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this here world, my fairminded friend, is probably the only heaven you'll ever meet, and the only hell some of us will have to endure. God revealed himself in Jesus.<span id='postcolor'> Excellent... have proof? And as for Hell, I believe the existentialist Jean Paul Sartre (French- but we shouldnt hold it against him) summed it up best: "There's no need for red-hot pokers. Hell is- other people!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted September 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Sep. 12 2002,07:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think religion shoudl be kept out of this thred, but it might be hard. Religion is a major factor in the current problem in the Middle East. Is not all about Religion, but it does have a key role. Israel claims the land due to religion, Palestinia want them out for religious reasons.<span id='postcolor'> Religion is one thing but history is another. The Jewish people did live in the area, but not alone. They lived alongside many other peoples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted September 12, 2002 Thats what I have been saying for the last few pages, we need to keep religion ot a minimum in the problem, and we need both sides to learn to live with each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted September 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats what I have been saying for the last few pages, we need to keep religion ot a minimum in the problem, and we need both sides to learn to live with each other.<span id='postcolor'> That is a great idea! There is a problem though, it is Israel's land, and Plaestine supports the killing of innocent civilians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted September 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 12 2002,17:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats what I have been saying for the last few pages, we need to keep religion ot a minimum in the problem, and we need both sides to learn to live with each other.<span id='postcolor'> That is a great idea! There is a problem though, it is Israel's land, and Plaestine supports the killing of innocent civilians.<span id='postcolor'> You tell me then DoR, what might make the Palestinians stop? What is your peace plan. You have heard mine so lets hear yours. As you keep posting you must have thought about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogo 0 Posted September 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 12 2002,01:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Isaelies defeated the people of Palestine a long time ago, and won the country, so since they won it is theirs.<span id='postcolor'> Sow if i had an army now and invaded US then it's rightfully mine. I think if the wider population of the earth thought like this then we will be at war evryday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted September 12, 2002 If it was up to me I would relocate the people of Plaestine to another country. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sow if i had an army now and invaded US then it's rightfully mine. I think if the wider population of the earth thought like this then we will be at war evryday.<span id='postcolor'> I do not think like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted September 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 12 2002,20:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If it was up to me I would relocate the people of Plaestine to another country.<span id='postcolor'> How? Relocate them in the east? Give Israel more living space? That is exactly how the Nazis thought! Not how the victims, the Jewish nation thinks. And not a way foreward! The entire Arab world would erupt with anger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted September 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 12 2002,14:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sow if i had an army now and invaded US then it's rightfully mine. I think if the wider population of the earth thought like this then we will be at war evryday.<span id='postcolor'> I do not think like that. <span id='postcolor'> We know. Actually we really are at war every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Sep. 12 2002,20:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I do not think like that. <span id='postcolor'> i don't think he even think at all .......... j/k , no offense DoR , had to put it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
