Modern Warfare 2

[bangtail 0]

How hard is it to design a massive map with some trees and sand? lets see if BI can design a full city with full graphics, other than a replicate buildings and and roads that look exactly the same

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Arma SP?? haha, to me Arma is only good for Editor and Online

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Me, because with music, you get people buying millions of albums for different artists, e.g Michael Jakson, briteny, 2pac, etc

but with games, how many do you get buying over 10m copies for a game? very rear apart from the most successful ones, in this case COD series

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I called you a nOOb, because you made a stupid comment, so you the one who brought it upon yourself " Oh I wanted to finish it so I can delete it" what stupid thing to say

/ignore

/reported

Bye :D

[itsme 10]

good for you^

[dmarkwick 261]

give me one SP game that beats COD SP?

As everyone in the world knows, the best SP game ever is Portal :)

[Stryker_1 10]

I'm going to bypass it, I didn't like MW1. Too much flash. MW2 seems to be big production stuff with very little longevity. Hey man, if that's your gig, great. The gaming industry has changed dramatically with titles like these. 6 hr SP, get your fix and move on to the next one. As long as the money is rolling these will continue to churn out. $70 -$80 bucks a pop for the console, no wonder this happening. I have a PS3 which has now become an expensive Blu Ray player. The current generation of gamers appear to be like salivating drug addicts that need constant big flash and quick rushes. They also have the money (or credit) to fulfill this addiction....lol

I play ARMA II like a chess game sometimes and while not stimulating for some, this works for my gaming addictions :D

[Maddmatt 1]

No matter what argument you come up with against a toll, they will try to shoot it down even if they have to say something utterly moronic. Guess it's better not to waste time, there's better things to do :)

[itsme 10]

I'm going to bypass it, I didn't like MW1. Too much flash. MW2 seems to be big production stuff with very little longevity. Hey man, if that's your gig, great. The gaming industry has changed dramatically with titles like these. 6 hr SP, get your fix and move on to the next one. As long as the money is rolling these will continue to churn out. $70 -$80 bucks a pop for the console, no wonder this happening. I have a PS3 which has now become an expensive Blu Ray player. The current generation of gamers appear to be like salivating drug addicts that need constant big flash and quick rushes. They also have the money (or credit) to fulfill this addiction....lol

I play ARMA II like a chess game sometimes and while not stimulating for some, this works for my gaming addictions :D

how much do you pay to watch a 1h 30min movie in cinemas? around $10??? well, you paying $60 to not "just watch" a 6 to 8hrs movie, but to be part of that movie, plus the sp-co, plus the online play;)

[dmakatra 1]

how much do you pay to watch a 1h 30min movie in cinemas? around $10??? well, you paying $60 to not "just watch" a 6 to 8hrs movie, but to be part of that movie, plus the sp-co, plus the online play;)

Didn't you just say we shouldn't make comparisons between different types of media?

[jakerod 254]

give me one SP game that beats COD SP?

In my opinion: Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Operation Flashpoint, Armed Assault, ArmA II, Burnout Paradise, Ace Combat 6, BioShock (story is 1000x better too), SimCity 4, Supreme Commander, Delta Force 2, Close Combat (Main Series), Warcraft I & II, Command & Conquer: Red Alert, Perfect Dark, GoldenEye, Starfighter 3000, Total Annihilation, Starcraft, Burnout 3, Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, Rush 2049, Jedi Knight, Rogue Squadron, World Is Not Enough, and Beetle Adventure Racing. I might've forgotten a few but that is most of them.

@DMarkwick: Thank you for reminding me about Portal. I need to buy that. I had forgotten.

how much do you pay to watch a 1h 30min movie in cinemas? around $10??? well, you paying $60 to not "just watch" a 6 to 8hrs movie, but to be part of that movie, plus the sp-co, plus the online play

I get paid about $18 to watch a movie... or I get in for free depends on when I go. Most people are pissed when they go see a crappy movie with plot elements that don't make sense though. Even when it is $10. 2hr movie at $10 x 4 = 8hr movie at $40... so we have to pay $20 extra to play it? And we still get plots that are pulled out of thin air for the "cool" factor? Edited November 12, 2009 by Jakerod

[itsme 10]

Didn't you just say we shouldn't make comparisons between different types of media?

Am not comparing the qualities here, I am just sick of people moaning about the price "Oh am not spending that much bucks to play 6hrs SP"

you pay $10 to watch some shitty boring 1hr movies

[jakerod 254]

Am not comparing the qualities here, I am just sick of people moaning about the price "Oh am not spending that much bucks to play 6hrs SP"

you pay $10 to watch some shitty boring 1hr movies

We also pay $10 to watch amazing 3hr long movies. What's your point?

[itsme 10]

In my opinion: Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Operation Flashpoint, Armed Assault, ArmA II, Burnout Paradise, Ace Combat 6, BioShock (story is 1000x better too), SimCity 4, Supreme Commander, Delta Force 2, Close Combat (Main Series), Warcraft I & II, Command & Conquer: Red Alert, Perfect Dark, GoldenEye, Starfighter 3000, Total Annihilation, Starcraft, Burnout 3, Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, Rush 2049, Jedi Knight, Rogue Squadron, World Is Not Enough, and Beetle Adventure Racing. I might've forgotten a few but that is most of them.

@DMarkwick: Thank you for reminding me about Portal. I need to buy that. I had forgotten.

I get paid about $18 to watch a movie... or I get in for free depends on when I go. Most people are pissed when they go see a crappy movie with plot elements that don't make sense though. Even when it is $10. 2hr movie at $10 x 4 = 8hr movie at $40... so we have to pay $20 extra to play it? And we still get plots that are pulled out of thin air for the "cool" factor?

I asked for one only, but seems you got carried away being stupid, Halo hahaha, how realistic is halo?

I will give the extra $20 to the online gameplay, is that fair? or the Special Ops??;)

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We also pay $10 to watch amazing 3hr long movies. What's your point?

the point is, Stop ***** complaining about the price, this $60 wont make you richer or poorer

[jakerod 254]

I asked for one only, but seems you got carried away being stupid, Halo hahaha, how realistic is halo?

I will give the extra $20 to the online gameplay, is that fair? or the Special Ops??;)

You didn't say it had to be realistic. You said it had to have better SP, which in my opinion it does both in gameplay and story. But if you want realistic then OFP, ArmA, ArmA II, and Close Combat Series. I would also say that all 4 of those plus almost the entire rest of the list have better plots.

And I wouldn't say the MP is worth $20 or the spec ops... maybe $10.

the point is, Stop ***** complaining about the price, this $60 wont make you richer or poorer

Actually it does. If I don't spend that $60 I am $60 richer. Not to mention the money I need to pay for Live. I can complain about price all I want if I feel the game isn't worth the money.

I would also like to add SWAT 3 & SWAT 4 to my list as well.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Jakerod

[itsme 10]

You didn't say it had to be realistic. You said it had to have better SP, which in my opinion it does both in gameplay and story. But if you want realistic then OFP, ArmA, ArmA II, and Close Combat Series. I would also say that all 4 of those plus almost the entire rest of the list have better plots.

And I wouldn't say the MP is worth $20 or the spec ops... maybe $10.

Actually it does. If I don't spend that $60 I am $60 richer. Not to mention the money I need to pay for Live. I can complain about price all I want if I feel the game isn't worth the money.

I would also like to add SWAT 3 & SWAT 4 to my list as well.

Ofcourse you will say Arma is better, what am I expecting from a biased Arma fan!!!

[jakerod 254]

Ofcourse you will say Arma is better, what am I expecting from a biased Arma fan!!!

So either...

A.) I am not biased (which makes you a liar)

B.) You are biased about MW 2

or

C.) Playing a game makes you biased and therefore I am biased towards every game that I have ever played despite my feelings of it and so are you which also makes B true.

Reasons I don't find MW2 to be any good:

Essentially it is the same as MW with a few different levels

It is not realistic

The plot is so far stretched that it is more likely that Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs (which involves it raining giant pieces of food and sentient pizza if you're not familiar with the plot) could really happen.

Reasons I might like it:

Its an FPS

I can play it on 360 with my brother.

2 minor reasons to play do not outweigh the 3 major reasons not to play nor does it make it worth $60.

[itsme 10]

So either...

A.) I am not biased (which makes you a liar)

B.) You are biased about MW 2

or

C.) Playing a game makes you biased and therefore I am biased towards every game that I have ever played despite my feelings of it and so are you which also makes B true.

Reasons I don't find MW2 to be any good:

Essentially it is the same as MW with a few different levels

It is not realistic

The plot is so far stretched that it is more likely that Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs (which involves it raining giant pieces of food and sentient pizza if you're not familiar with the plot) could really happen.

Reasons I might like it:

Its an FPS

I can play it on 360 with my brother.

2 minor reasons to play do not outweigh the 3 major reasons not to play nor does it make it worth $60.

You are Clearly anti-COD, point proved, am off to sleep, LAterZzZzZz:)

[Chaostika7-17th 10]

how much do you pay to watch a 1h 30min movie in cinemas? around $10??? well, you paying $60 to not "just watch" a 6 to 8hrs movie, but to be part of that movie, plus the sp-co, plus the online play;)

haha, what a noob you are, grow up and stop bullshittin

I called you a nOOb, because you made a stupid comment, so you the one who brought it upon yourself " Oh I wanted to finish it so I can delete it" what stupid thing to say

noobish noob language i would say, and not hard to tell, who has to grow up here or should get his wording, style or diction sorted :cool:

back to mw2, bougth all other titles, played and administrated many cod servers for many years, but still not spending 1 cent on this xbox multiplayer p2p port crap with host migration, no lean (muhahaa) and no dedis and no bla bla bla. a friend, who also wasnt gonna spend any money on this game, wanted to give me his torrent file on a stick tomorrow for the SP, but i dont even feel like playing it in SP and i refused! still to pissed off atm! all mohaa and cod titles just rocked in single player, thats correct itsme and kicked ass in mutliplayer for many years and still are! but i will not pay 50 or 60 bucks for a only 6-8h singleplayer game, even if its as good as many ppl say in SP, or how much a evening at the cinema costs. its just a matter of principle and for me, only the multiplayer counts! that one died for me, our clan and all other clans that i know in our longtime neighbourhood , which stuck with this game for the last six years as admins, players, modders and mappers! why should i give IW my money, when the the are putting this game six feet under for the pc!?!?

if you're fine with it in SP and MP itsme, then enjoy it and have fun, if thats the way you think games should be played on a pc. but maybe you should just treat other ppl, as u wished to be treated yourself, weather you like their oppinion, statement, comments or not!

gn8

@ maddmatt, its a pitty you live that far away, one of our cod servers is running cod1 classic with total war mod and is still full every day, but i guess you wont hit anything with your ping from "down there" hehee

edit:

just found this:

dedicated servers might be an issue for you, but for someone like me who doesnt care about hosting a server or joining a clan, it doesnt bother me at all, if I want to play with friends then I can play a private match

dont bother to answer, just saw your oppinion above and i wonder where u played cod all these years in mutliplayer!? on dedi servers of clans or on what!? well, now u can "host" your own game @mw2 and lets see how long you or your friends will like the advantage of the pwning host with zero ping and host migration! and guess what, if u do care some day, it doesnt bother me at all. ;-) over and out

Edited November 12, 2009 by Chaostika7-17th

[W0lle 1050]

haha, what a noob you are, grow up and stop bullshittin

+1 infraction for that.

And now we go all back on topic without any lame comparsions, otherwise... well you all know what happened with the first DR thread no? :p

[Master gamawa 0]

Short review:

this game is a rollercoaster. It's fun, fast, intense, fucking annoying and as linear as you can get. You feel pressed all the time to move on. You can't explore, hide, flank the enemy, retreat, use any kind of tactics or... well, apply any personal playing style whatsoever. You are on rails all the way.

I don't really mind though. It's good for some mindless and stressful fun. What really bothers me is that there are no player profiles (more than one people use my computers and we all have different preferences in keys, loadout and perks) which makes playing on LAN a pain in the ass.

It could be better. I mean what's the harm in letting the player choose how to handle the missions? I am not talking about Arma level tactics. Just a simple "I can either walk straight through the gates or go around and try to sneak in" kind of choice. For fuck's sake that's the point of having a 3D engine, right? The fact that you are in a 3D world where you can move around, see it from different angles and decide how to proceed.

Damn I think I play Arma too fucking much!

[bangtail 0]

Short review:

this game is a rollercoaster. It's fun, fast, intense, fucking annoying and as linear as you can get. You feel pressed all the time to move on. You can't explore, hide, flank the enemy, retreat, use any kind of tactics or... well, apply any personal playing style whatsoever. You are on rails all the way.

I don't really mind though. It's good for some mindless and stressful fun. What really bothers me is that there are no player profiles (more than one people use my computers and we all have different preferences in keys, loadout and perks) which makes playing on LAN a pain in the ass.

It could be better. I mean what's the harm in letting the player choose how to handle the missions? I am not talking about Arma level tactics. Just a simple "I can either walk straight through the gates or go around and try to sneak in" kind of choice. For fuck's sake that's the point of having a 3D engine, right? The fact that you are in a 3D world where you can move around, see it from different angles and decide how to proceed.

Damn I think I play Arma too fucking much!

The "problem" is that we are spoiled with A2. Games like MW2 offer a brief distraction but they just don't compare.

I can write a more convincing and entertaining mission in a few days with the A2 editor and it will keep me and the boys busy for WAY more than 2 hours. I wrote one mission for OFP that lasted us 6 months :)

Edited November 12, 2009 by BangTail

[MehMan 0]

Short review:

this game is a rollercoaster. It's fun, fast, intense, fucking annoying and as linear as you can get. You feel pressed all the time to move on. You can't explore, hide, flank the enemy, retreat, use any kind of tactics or... well, apply any personal playing style whatsoever. You are on rails all the way.

x2

I mean, there are some very fun parts, but the game haves you rush EVERYTHING, is if time is running out. But you can slow down and pop one enemy by one. I kept thinking there was a timer and if I didn't finish some missions in time I would fail.

The stupid red dawn missions are just retarded. I liked fighting in afghanistan, brazil, wierd locations, it was a bit different, fun, this is just LAME

[Master gamawa 0]

Well it's the spawning enemies too. If you take your time too much, you ain't gonna make any progress.

So... is this the topic where I can also complain about Steam?

Steam sucks! I hated GTA because of Steam. Steam is to fucking intrusive and I don't like it on my computer. I don't like the way e-mails are handled and the fact that you can only make one account without profiles etc.

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with tears streaming down my face screaming "FUCK YOU STEAM!"

Steam tries to become the i-tunes of gaming.

ONE PLATFORM TO RULE THEM ALL! Here you go, this is your steam-account and your steam-friends, do you want to manage winamp through steam? it's steam all the way baby. Here is a steam t-shirt, now you belong to the steam family. You will download steam-porn from steam. Steam is the future of gaming.. man! Let's steam everything and run everything through the internet! STEAM!

YAY STEAM!

What the hell was so wrong with the way Cod4 handled registration, multiple users, servers that they had to change it? No, fuck steam.

Good morning people!

[Herbal Influence 10]

So... is this the topic where I can also complain about Steam?

Steam sucks! I hated GTA because of Steam. Steam is to fucking intrusive and I don't like it on my computer. I don't like the way e-mails are handled and the fact that you can only make one account without profiles etc.

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with tears streaming down my face screaming "FUCK YOU STEAM!"

Steam tries to become the i-tunes of gaming.

ONE PLATFORM TO RULE THEM ALL! Here you go, this is your steam-account and your steam-friends, do you want to manage winamp through steam? it's steam all the way baby. Here is a steam t-shirt, now you belong to the steam family. You will download steam-porn from steam. Steam is the future of gaming.. man! Let's steam everything and run everything through the internet! STEAM!

YAY STEAM!

What the hell was so wrong with the way Cod4 handled registration, multiple users, servers that they had to change it? No, fuck steam.

Good morning people!

+1

I must admit I was waiting long for someone to post this.

Sorry it is somewhat offtopic.

I never understood why I should use steam or xfire.

I like the freedom and the openess of BI games.

But perhaps Steam made a good offer to BI or is the only big distribution channel for BI in the US?

I made a more special thread here.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Herbal Influence

[Pauldarrington 9]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174041

[RaXz 0]

Steam from my ears!

I watched some vids of MW2, with all those distracting flashing icons and sentences in screen it looked like a Unreal Tournament game, only with other models and skins. I loved UT by the way, especially UT99. It's the only fastpaced FPS that I really enjoyed.

The sweet memories..:o

[Master gamawa 0]

Steam from my ears!

I watched some vids of MW2, with all those distracting flashing icons and sentences in screen it looked like a Unreal Tournament game, only with other models and skins. I loved UT by the way, especially UT99. It's the only fastpaced FPS that I really enjoyed.

The sweet memories..:o

haha yeah! My friend was playing MP and all those stupid messages, tags and effects filled the screen! "AMAZING MEGA MULTIKILL ULTRASTREAK OF DOOM!" 34 killstreak bonus "SUMMON CTHULHU AND DESTROY ALL SANITY!"

What the hell? Call of Duty games were supposed to be intense and violent. Gritty and hard! I am telling you the truth, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to hear "DENIED", "HEEEAAADSSSHHOOOAT!" or "QUAD DAMAGE!" during this game.

Most of my friends talked about this game since the rumors started. We planned an amazing night for this event. We bought four copies of the game and got ready for the good times. Good times my ASS! At first Steam couldn't verify our accounts, then the game wouldn't install properly on two of the four pcs I have, we couldn't make seperate profiles, couldn't lean, couldn't start a game on lan because we couldn't find each other through steam, couldn't adjust audio properties separately and finally, well... we decided to play some cod4.

I loved cod4. I still do. It was the perfect balance between intense action and 'tactics'. The weapons felt right, the FOV was fine, the perks MADE SENSE (I can't say the same for the MW2 perks) and the game played fine.

The sequel is just a mindless fragfest for kids.

I'll play the single player and then put it on the shelf with the others.

edit:

ΟΗ COME ON!!!! Did you know that when you kill the last dude on an mp level you get a killcam effect and you see money flying out of the enemy's body as soon as your shot lands. What the hell is this? Who pitched that idea during brainstorming and didn't get kicked out?

"Sir I have an amazing idea. How about every time someone gets the final kill, we go on killcam mode that everyone can see... BUT... money will appear out of mid air when your bullet hits."

"money?... did you say money? Why?"

"yes! Money! Money flying around! it's awesome. I love money. You love money. Everyone loves money!"

I seriously can't imagine what that means. Is it like a money shot?

Because if that is the case then it's fukken STPOOPID!

"

Edited November 12, 2009 by Master gamawa