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Same here, keep eye in pound shops for pc vacum kit, well handy, I would stay away from compressed air as they expensive just to push dust where you cant get to it lol,just remove cpu fan not heatsink and remove any dust, easier to remove gcard to remove dust too, just earth yourself by keeping ur pc plugged into the socket but socket off to save accidently turning it on and touch a metal part of case or psu and that will remove any static in you

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Well the GPU and the PSU are a few months old. I tried unpluging the GPU, the damn thing should at least boot and make some beep sounds if it is GPU related. If it would be the PSU (a high quality one!) then the damn thing wouldn't run at all, or would at least run when I unplug everything else that consumes power. (Note CPU fan, GPU fan and Drives are working.) Am I missing something?

I really start to think that it might be the mobo....

A CPU/mobo problem will keep it from even turning on as to not fry it. I had an old C2D system that I gave to a friend, and while I was stripping it apart cleaning everything I accidentally bent a pin on the board and didn't notice (C2Ds don't have traditional pins; but very small bent metal contacts in the socket). When we fired it up only the fans would turn with no error beeps. I found the bent pin and somehow fixed it and it works flawlessly now.

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Shut your PC off as often as possible, keep it cool and dont run it on hot days...keept it dry, dust it off with compressed air once a month and DO NOT OVERCLOCK.

Thast way it can last 10 Years...albeit you won't be able to run anything modern on it in 10 years.

my current PC is from 2006, I just had to upgrade CPU and GPU two times since to keep up.

PS: keep girlsfriends and Wifes away from PC...mine once typed "format c:" after having found porn on it. At night they creep up onto your PC and start researching what you do with it and whom you send e-mail.

I have actually found quite the opposite. I used to turn off my systems all the time when not in use. That was also when I had the most problems with HDD's, fans, PSU's, and mobo's. Constantly turning on/off your system is just putting more stress on everything when it powers up. I usually keep my system on 24/7 unless I'm leaving for an extended time, lightning storms, or need to clean it.

Yes, it will tend to keep dust out; but dust is inevitable. I bought a $50 Dirt Devil hand-held vacuum that can also blow air and it works wonders; no need to keep buying over-priced compressed air. My previous system lasted 5+ years being on ~75%+ of the time (and now my roommate has been using it).

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Lol. I just vaccuum it. :p

Pr0's use dustfilters :cool:

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Pr0's use dustfilters :cool:

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Pr0s us3 w@t3rc00l1ng. :p

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Pr0s us3 w@t3rc00l1ng. :p

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Touche :p

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I've just put in a order for a new machine.. cant wait to get this home :)

Asus P8Z68-V PRO

Intel i7 2600 Quad

Kingston Value 1333Hz - 8 GB

Corsair SSD Force 3 - 120GB

Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 2TB Sata3

Noctua NH - D14 CPU cooler

Corsair Obisdian 650 D

Corsair AX 1200W (In case i buy 1 more graphics card)

Asus GeForce GTX 580 (Direct CU II)

About the Z68 chipset. I bought that because of the new feature whitch allows to use a SSD as cache for the HDD. In practical use this will cache the most used games/program/files on the HDD and make them as fast as if they where on a SSD. Does anyone know if it requires a "special" SSD or will any SSD do the job ?

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I have an HD4870 512mb and recently got another old one from my brother which was 'broken', turns out the fan was just messed up and i just replaced it with another one i had lying around(Glue, a knife, some screws and violence). My motherbord supports Crossfire. The cards are both from XFX but his seems to be a slightly updated model with a different heatsink however the specs seem to be the same(Frequency, VRAM). Would this give any problems if i try to use them in crossfire?

Also, any problems trying to use crossfire in win7 64bit with ArmA2?

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I have an HD4870 512mb and recently got another old one from my brother which was 'broken', turns out the fan was just messed up and i just replaced it with another one i had lying around(Glue, a knife, some screws and violence). My motherbord supports Crossfire. The cards are both from XFX but his seems to be a slightly updated model with a different heatsink however the specs seem to be the same(Frequency, VRAM). Would this give any problems if i try to use them in crossfire?

Also, any problems trying to use crossfire in win7 64bit with ArmA2?

I know a lot more about SLI than crossfire, but it should be the same. As long as the GPU is the same, manufacturer doesn't count. You can SLI an Asus 560 with an Gygabyte 560, as long as those are the same category (both 560, and not one 560 and one 560TI).

EDIT: seems AMD crossfire is ever more allowing. from WIKI

CrossFire can be implemented with varying-GPU cards of the same generation (this is in contrast to Nvidia's SLI, which generally only works if all cards have the same GPU). This allows buyers who have varying budgets over time to purchase different cards and still get the benefits of increased performance. With the latest generation cards, they will only crossfire with other cards in their sub series. For example, GPU in the same series can be crossfired with each other. So a 5800 series GPU (e.g. a 5830) can run together with another 5800 series GPU (e.g. 5870). However GPU's not in the same hundred series cannot be crossfired successfully. (e.g. a 5770 cannot run with a 5870)

Conclusion: yes it is more than possible.

win7 64bit has no issues with crossfire. A2, i heard there are some, but can't put my finger on it. You can definitely give it a try though

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I've just put in a order for a new machine.. cant wait to get this home :)

Asus P8Z68-V PRO

Intel i7 2600 Quad

Kingston Value 1333Hz - 8 GB

Corsair SSD Force 3 - 120GB

Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 2TB Sata3

Noctua NH - D14 CPU cooler

Corsair Obisdian 650 D

Corsair AX 1200W (In case i buy 1 more graphics card)

Asus GeForce GTX 580 (Direct CU II)

About the Z68 chipset. I bought that because of the new feature whitch allows to use a SSD as cache for the HDD. In practical use this will cache the most used games/program/files on the HDD and make them as fast as if they where on a SSD. Does anyone know if it requires a "special" SSD or will any SSD do the job ?

That is a sweet rig :D

About the SSD caching (Intel Smart Response), I'm pretty sure you can use any SSD you choose- also you don't have to use the whole SSD- for example you could allocate 20GB of that Corsair 120GB for caching, and keep the other 100GB for storage.

To set up Smart Response you have to set the HDD and the SSD you're using for the cache as RAID devices, then download and install IRST, then once the system has restarted you can choose the acceleration option in the main screen of the Rapid Storage program.

Hope that helps :)

BTW smart response takes a good few runs to reach maximum performance as the cache is built over time, when you first use it the perforamance will probably not be noticably faster than a standard HDD.

PS: keep girlsfriends and Wifes away from PC...mine once typed "format c:" after having found porn on it. At night they creep up onto your PC and start researching what you do with it and whom you send e-mail.
Your GF knows how to use CMD?!?! :omg: I don't think mine even knows how to turn my PC on ;) Edited by SW1

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Hi guys!

I'm a new player looking for tips on what model of computer, what the brand is, and what parts should be in it so that I can run it as smoothly as possible. I can't have it be a $2,000 computer because that would be going over my budget. I already have OA and ArmA II bought. The computer is for my birthday.

Could any of you guys help me please?

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What's the Budget for it?

I'll link you to Tomshardware's Budget and intermediate builds.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-pc-phenom-ii-radeon-hd-6850,2903.html

I have a system I got for a decent amount of money, It's got the HD 6850, and the i5-750

Old, yes, But runs Arma2 perfectly.

I'd suggest going with an equivalent Nvidia card though, as they come with Physx, and to my understanding, that's what'll be in Arma3.

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it like $1200-$1420

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and where will you be buying from? Newegg? or a local computer store?

you could even go to something like Ibuypower ot cyberpower and build a system for yourself there, then they ship it in.

would recommend building yourself though, if you have the know-how.

and if you're going for the 1000$ bracket, here's another recommendation from Tomshardware.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6950-unlock-build-a-pc-overclock,2893.html

Again, go with an Nvidia if Physx is your fancy.

Edited by Birdy890

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I don't know where the computer will be bought....yet!

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Will a Dell Inspiron 570 play ArmA?

**Windows 7

6GB DDR3 SDRAM- 4DIMMS_memory

1TB serial ATA hard Drive (7200RPM) with Databirst cache_Hard drive

Intergrated ATI Radeon HD4200_Video Card

16x DVD+/-RW Opical Drive

Integrated 7.1 channel audio

***$635.97***

That's what my mom told me I have to work with..........Dell

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Intel I5 2500K + proper 3rd party CPU cooler

8GB RAM 1600Mhz Corsair Vengence (2x4GB)

Nvidia Gtx 560 TI 2GB - Gainward

1TB Caviar Black sata3 - 6gb 64mb buffer

DVD Optical Drive

NZXT Case

750W Corsair PSU

24' LED Monitor 1920x1080

Total - 1350$

used IBuyPower just for reference

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okay thanks!

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Will a Dell Inspiron 570 play ArmA?

**Windows 7

6GB DDR3 SDRAM- 4DIMMS_memory

1TB serial ATA hard Drive (7200RPM) with Databirst cache_Hard drive

Intergrated ATI Radeon HD4200_Video Card

16x DVD+/-RW Opical Drive

Integrated 7.1 channel audio

***$635.97***

That's what my mom told me I have to work with..........Dell

Sorry but the integrated graphics wouldn't stand a chance :D

I agree with PuFu the i5 2500k is the CPU to go with, it's a brilliant overclocker...

That said I would only bother with 4GB of RAM, and although the GTX 560Ti is a great card I'd be tempted to get the GTX 570 for the extra FPS, if that fits your budget ofcourse :)

Edited by SW1

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I have a doubt about SLI and X-fire setups. If you plug 2 cards with say.. 1024 GB of video ram each will they eat 2048 GB out of VAS? Im inclined to believe so but im not sure.. :confused: .

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So, I have a new PC now with 8GB RAM. Would Arma run better if I create a RAM Disk? If yes, how can I do it?

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Thanks for the Links, but will Arma really benefit from this? Will I have a smoother game?

(System: I7 2660k/Sapphire Toxic HD5850/8GB Corsair Vengeance RAM)

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If you don't have a SSD definitely give it a try. Arma will play way smoother.

Edited by Derbysieger

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