Arma 2 One of the best games released recently!

[Tore 10]

Arma 2 has it's flaws but it is an awesome game as long as it works!

What is great about Arma 2:

-Intelligent AI: The AI takes cover behind buildings, cover each others backs (and yours)

-huge maps

-animals (lol)

-Dynamic game: a mission never happens the same way.

-Great mission editor.

-easy installation of addons

-many different weapons.

-many different vehicles.

-lots of game modes.

-Operation Flashpoint feel.

-Helicopters handles very well.

-Landing auto pilot automatically lands your plane on closest air field.

-Patches are released "often"

Arma 2's flaws.

-Many computers have problems running it.

-Postprocess effects makes the game confusing.

-Lag (My computer runs it fine at 40 FPS, but sometimes the game clogs up and I get 1 FPS)

-Some planes handles awfully. (like the Joint Strike Fighter)

-Sound shuttering

-Many sounds are the same.

-Many weapons have bad sounds (A-10's cannon doesn't sound right...as does many other things)

-Operation Flashpoint like animations.

-Some weapons doesn't feel right, like the pistols.

-You can blow up tanks with MGs.

-Radio voices sounds odd, even the OFP ones sounded better.

-Crashes

-Rendering issues

-lag

-lag

-lag

Arma 2 has many flaws but as always, Bohemia Interactive will fix most if not all of them! We just have to be patient and wait, no game is released bug free and none will ever do, especially games as big as Arma 2.

If people start expecting that huge and open games like Arma 2 should be released "bug free" then they don't have much sense. Even World of Warcraft was bug ridden when it was first released. (like all MMORPG's) I know it is kinda stupid to compare a MMORPG to a......uhmm "FPS-RTS-RPG-Simulator"? Like Arma 2 however the game is huge and open and no one can deny that.

If you don't like waiting for patches I recommend that you go buy a "normal" first/third person shooter like GTA, Call of Duty, Half Life, Mercenaries etc.

or maybe an RTS?

StarCraft, Command & Conquer, Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander...

Good work BI! Keep those patches coming! I know this game will show it's greatness for everyone soon! I have played it a lot since I first got it and I don't seem to get tired of it despite the bugs...just like what happened when I got Operation Flashpoint! :)

P.S I hope this is the right place to post this. :P

Edited August 7, 2009 by Tore
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[Master gamawa 0]

that's the attitude! See? This man knows what he is talking about!

[rothy 0]

Hey Tore, You said it best and I agree. In spite of the bugs I still love ArmA2. Still my favorite game of all time.

Keep up the good work BIS.

[Titan127 10]

Very nicely put Tore, ARMA2 while buggy is still an amazing game. Am just trying to decide which I like more Empire Total war or ARMA2 :D

I think ARMA2 will win since its something I will play for ages, also am confident the bugs will get stamped out by BIS given time :bounce3:

[-RIP- Luhgnut 10]

Hey Tore, You said it best and I agree. In spite of the bugs I still love ArmA2. Still my favorite game of all time.

Keep up the good work BIS.

I TOTALLY AGREE! It Was awesome. I loved it. But now I can't play with all the advancements.

I want my 1.02 back....

[Potatomasher 0]

Agree 100%. Hell, i'm going even further. Arma2 IS best game since OFP, but the bugs in campaign and performance is really annoying. I really hope 1.04 patch will be mainly focusing on improving performance and bugs in campaign. I think all the rest can wait.

[Planck 1]

Seems fairly straightforward to me for anyone to revert to 1.02 if they want.

Presuming they backed-up their 1.02 installation as advised in the 1.03 release topic in the News Forum.

Planck

[Guest]

I agree with this thread completely. Although i get so frustrated with Arma 2, i also am in love it. I guess its like being married to an alcoholic:

Some days your husband comes home and makes you cry. Other times he comes home and makes you feel like the luckiest person alive!

[Titan127 10]

I agree with this thread completely. Although i get so frustrated with Arma 2, i also am in love it. I guess its like being married to an alcoholic:

Some days your husband comes home and makes you cry. Other times he comes home and makes you feel like the luckiest person alive!

Lol thats a good way to put it :)

Hopefully BIS do get the bugs and performance issues which some users are affected by sorted out, oh fixing the campaign so I could finish it would make me soo happy :cool:

Oh and if you miss 1.02 soo much then go back to it, its not hard and even easier if you have backed up your 1.02 install as Planck says.

Off topic: Am sure you have heard this before Richiespeed but your videos are amazing, got that great Black Hawk Down one saved on my PsP. Oh and the 1500 AI one was what got me to decide on ARMA2 over Dragon Rising :)

[kozzy420 21]

Great post! I agree 100%! I love this game! Yes it has a few problems, but thats expected with such an ambitious game! Has a few issues, but also has a ton of great things about it!!!!

Its my favorite game of the year so far personally (with Dawn Of Discovery and Empire Total War just behind)

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Off topic: Am sure you have heard this before Richiespeed but your videos are amazing, got that great Black Hawk Down one saved on my PsP. Oh and the 1500 AI one was what got me to decide on ARMA2 over Dragon Rising :)

I agree, those videos are awesome :D

Edited August 7, 2009 by kozzy420

[Fiya 10]

Finally a bunch of people not bitching at BIS.

They have done a GREAT job with this game, great improvement over all its predecessors. The wait will be worth it when the game is patched more, but I have no complaints right now. It only took a little time, some common sense, and the internet to 'fix' any problems I had with the game.

Keep up the awesome work.

Arma 2 = Win! :rolleyes:

[SaOk 112]

I also agree 100%. Bugs dosent matter if the game is masterpiece. And ArmA2 is working very fine if you remember Hidden&Dangerous which crashed all the time, but it was still my favorite game that time. When looking what other games the world has today to offer - its easy to say that ArmA2 is already one of the best games ever. Hopefully there will be many expansion packs for it with interesting campaigns and other new content.

Edited August 7, 2009 by SaOk

[)Indy( 10]

Just registered to post in this thread. I agree with the topic-starter, this is one of the best games ever made. And I think the developers deserve some positive feedback for their hard work. This serie (starting with the original OpF) is in my top 3 of best games ever. And since I am a fairly old guy, that says alot :)

[Moosed 10]

i dont' understand why people go on about how good the ai is. it doesn't act how a real soldier would at all, for example they never move through say a town as a cohesive unit in the way a real squad would do, they like running head on into bullets and generally run around like a bunch of randoms when things get hectic. If the AI was good they would surely all peak round corners trying to shoot you rather than standing in the middle of the road shooting at you ? they would move slickly from cover to cover and it would look realistic rather than how it currently does. When a few of the AI's squad dies they should link up with other soldiers and work together but they don't, they all split up and generally behave very unrealistically.

It all just looks so random and uncoordinated in arma 2.

The game is good fun online in tactical PVP games but i just can't get into any game mode involving enemy ai as their behavior completely ruins any sense of realism.

Edited August 7, 2009 by Moosed

[kremator 1065]

With the release of the FSM we will be able to tweak the AI behaviour to something more fluid I hope :)

[Tore 10]

i dont' understand why people go on about how good the ai is. it doesn't act how a real soldier would at all, for example they never move through say a town as a cohesive unit in the way a real squad would do, they like running head on into bullets and generally run around like a bunch of randoms when things get hectic. If the AI was good they would surely all peak round corners trying to shoot you rather than standing in the middle of the road shooting at you ? they would move slickly from cover to cover and it would look realistic rather than how it currently does. When a few of the AI's squad dies they should link up with other soldiers and work together but they don't, they all split up and generally behave very unrealistically.

It all just looks so random and uncoordinated in arma 2.

The game is good fun online in tactical PVP games but i just can't get into any game mode involving enemy ai as their behavior completely ruins any sense of realism.

That doesn't sound like the AI in my game, this sounds more like the OFP AI....when I play I see them running from cover to cover, unless I order them to do otherwise....just put the behavior to danger....

About the OFP AI, I got a little annoyed getting killed by "sniper officers" which saw me though almost anything...this was fixed eventually in a patch tho...this have not happened to be once in Arma 2 :)

[Scrub 0]

Well, as the old situation goes: Name another game that has all this with better dynamic AI. Can't. For all the scale (quantity and size), diversity of play styles, modability, graphics, combined arms action - and AI - it's about as good as it currently gets. 'State of the Art' I believe is the term. The price that gets paid, for all the dynamics and lack of scripts, is a bit of a randomness. I suppose that may change when/if the FSM editor gets released.

Again, take any other game and look at it's components by themselves. They may have one or two that really shine, but when you put them all together, they don't really add up to any more than the sum of their parts. BIS games are the opposite, look at any of it's parts, and while there are some that are pretty good, they don't 'shine' like other games.. BUT, when you put all the pieces together, they are like instruments playing a perfect chord, making a 'hidden' third harmonic... Plainly put, Arma 2 is more than the sum of it's parts.

Forgot to add: You do have to look at it as a whole to see. Not many people in modern society are urged to do this anymore. Details standing on their own are just bullet-points for an accountants checkmark, this is closing in on gaming art. (needs a bit more patching though ;) )

Edited August 8, 2009 by Scrub

[)Indy( 10]

i dont' understand why people go on about how good the ai is. it doesn't act how a real soldier would at all, for example they never move through say a town as a cohesive unit in the way a real squad would do, they like running head on into bullets and generally run around like a bunch of randoms when things get hectic. If the AI was good they would surely all peak round corners trying to shoot you rather than standing in the middle of the road shooting at you ? they would move slickly from cover to cover and it would look realistic rather than how it currently does. When a few of the AI's squad dies they should link up with other soldiers and work together but they don't, they all split up and generally behave very unrealistically.

It all just looks so random and uncoordinated in arma 2.

The game is good fun online in tactical PVP games but i just can't get into any game mode involving enemy ai as their behavior completely ruins any sense of realism.

I agree that the ai doesn't behave that good always, but it is the overall feeling that this game provides that makes it one of the best games ever for me.

[NexusPhase 10]

I 100% agree with the OP.. and I think comparing ARMA II to an MMO is about as close of a comparison as you can get.... no other shooter has this level of depth/scale and the community needs to realise that it is gunna take time to get it all working correctly.... be patient!!!

ARMA II = best game ever made IMO and it will only get better :)

P.S: I have not seen any graphic anomalies since the new patch (1.03) and have only had CTD 2 times.....thats a huge improvement IMO.... keep up the hard work BI, GJ!!!!!

[Moosed 10]

That doesn't sound like the AI in my game, this sounds more like the OFP AI....when I play I see them running from cover to cover, unless I order them to do otherwise....just put the behavior to danger....

im talking specifically about the enemy ai, your own squads ai isn't really a problem although it is a little random at times.

[meat_helmet 10]

Yeh its great if it works for you.

The Titanic was a great ship as well, lol.

[Tore 10]

The Titanic and Arma 2 cannot be compared....Arma 2 will be tweaked and fixed just like Operation Flashpoint and Arma 1 while the Titanic is still at the depths of the ocean. ;)

[gingerill 10]

I understand people are very delighted with the concept and idea's of BIS, but I think it's worthless when you buy half of a game for the full price. It just does not work that way.

Would you buy a car if they shipped it to you in pieces over an extended period of time, so you can actually, properly drive it after a year?

After OFP and ARMA, ARMA II is my last BIS game.

Goodbye ARMA... hello Flashpoint!!

[Tore 10]

Half a game? Worthless? I'm sure you like me spent hours and hours of time in the Operation Flashpoint mission editor...and that you had a blast, even OFP had a really nice editor.

I didn't get Arma 1 though, I didn't like the "middle eastern" theme of it, but maybe this is why I was so surprised by Arma 2? Well, I hope BIS will release a new patch soon..the lag can get a bit annoying....

[AlphaIndia2 10]

Probably the most realistic simulation ive ever played, had some crashes with 1.02 and problem with Supershooter AI but feels like 1.03 is more stable and AI is less superior marksmen. But like in real combat it is hard to find the shooter specially when firing from long range( own experince from Balkans)