nomdeplume 0 Posted June 25, 2009 whats sad is that i would trade any sexual reference in arma, or any videogame for that matter, for just one functional Ch-53, with slingload capabilities. :cool: I don't think that's sad, I think that's the whole point I was trying to make: content is only useful if it contributes to the gameplay or game experience, and most people playing Arma2 want a milsim experience. "Adult" content only makes a marginal contribution to that experience, so therefore: not much interest. We'd rather have an official MH-6 and slingloading and transporting injured comrades in ambulances and other features that would actually give us more options in the game. I guess if you made a really good mod/total conversion you could attract the interest of people who otherwise wouldn't play Arma, pretty much making a new game. But I'm not sure of the viability of Arma as a platform for it. I think a lot of work would need to be done to make believable non-combat NPCs and so on - there's a fair bit of stuff in Arma to support cutscenes and the like, but most of it is superficial because it's not needed for the actual gameplay. There's a big difference between playing a "sitting" animation at a particular location to give the effect someone is sitting in a chair in a cutscene, and actually having characters able to sit in any chair anywhere in the world. Just as a small example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MajorT0m 10 Posted June 25, 2009 Just... No............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owen-AUS- 10 Posted June 25, 2009 Hey man. Your gay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nickos 10 Posted June 25, 2009 Darn perverts. What next, having sex in a flying heli? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cescollino 10 Posted June 25, 2009 Darn perverts. What next, having sex in a flying heli? :D that would not be a bad idea:tounge2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted June 25, 2009 ;1327179']Hey man. Your gay. My gay? I have a gay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbird 0 Posted June 25, 2009 Such a thread would have been immediately closed a couple of years ago, but it's good to see a sort of 'mentality change' since, heh. Regards, TB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonasRC 10 Posted June 25, 2009 "get some" ? Wow. To me it sounds like You are only interested in the, hmm how do I put it... f***ing part. But to answer Your question, yes it IS possible to create a mod like that, but you would a lot of time, skills and sanity to get a quality mod out of it. I'd suggest finding an RPG game with modding capabilities but I doubt you would find an engine as modfriendly as ArmA II. Maybe ask the Chernarus Life guys to work with them to get an RPG mod up and then add your own content? For me, ArmA II is already filled with pr0n. Yes, I am perverse! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOPEnSPIRIT 10 Posted June 25, 2009 On a serious note there are Hookers in the game, so a mission could be made where you have to patrol the city and captures the hookers, police the streets and keep them clean. Or take a bribe off a Hooker get a quicky and let them go, what ever your twisted mind desires. Well it was a half serious post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MajorT0m 10 Posted June 25, 2009 My gay? I have a gay? Is that even English? :butbut: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charliereddog 9 Posted June 25, 2009 I'd be very interested in this mod, but only if the OP is willing to play the part of the ass raped slave. Not quite so appealing now is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MachoMan 0 Posted June 25, 2009 Wow too bad I didn't notice this thread before ... You guys just made my day. Are you actually serious??? You are kidding, right?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 20 Posted June 25, 2009 hello completely OT Loving the confusion of the "your" and "you're" thing going on. Almost needs it's own thread. rgds LoK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARGold 10 Posted June 25, 2009 Thanks for the serious replies, there were some good ones. Well, ARMA 2 is scheduled to become available for me tomorrow, and I'm REALLY looking forward to it. Unfortunately I just got myself involved in a sailboat delivery that will keep me away from home (Seattle) for most of July - fun and adventure of another kind! My plan at this point is to play the game and learn what I can about it as a player. I'll probably visit the RP-MODS "Chernarus Life" server and start roll-playing my Slaver character a little as well, just to get to know that community and how they are approaching the game. I'm sure the SP/MP game will hold my attention long enough to learn the normal ways of playing. This will probably lead to me doing some modding work to create some kind of slave camp mission. Probably something like the "mine" in Blood Diamonds - maybe based on a coal mine or other operation not to difficult to model at first (more like an open pit mine than a system of tunnels). There will probably be some innocent women there forced to be "comfort women" for the slavers also but I'm not an artist so I won't be doing any body modelling soon. From here, this might expand into the ability to rescue the slaves, take them somewhere safe, perhaps recruit some of them to fight for your side, perhaps much later have relation with some of them. this all assumes something that is persistent and does not just end when the battle is done. This is the area I might be expecting too much from the game. Anyone interested in helping out, let me know, but as I say, I'll be gone for most/all of July, finishing refit on a wooden boat, doing sea-trials, then motor-sailing it the "wrong way" up the Pacific Northwest coast from San Francisco to Seattle. Thanks again for the great replies and tell me what you think of my mission idea. In MP it would be the slavers defending against the forces on the side of human rights so it will be a GIVEN that the attackers will want to limit killing the innocent victims. The slaver faction won't really care except their view of the slaves being human economic assets (and human shields). It should be interesting as a start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spetz 0 Posted June 26, 2009 I think Fox news would go ballistic if they hear that a game used by the military has a sex mini game, or rape game, slavery etc in it. (i know VBS and Arma are completely different, but fox likes to stretch the truth) Even though these would be unofficial patches/addons ,jack thompson has blasted EA for Sims Nude patches made by modders, This would help sales of the ArmA but would give bad light to VBS as well edit: it would also attract kiddies and team-killers etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nomdeplume 0 Posted June 26, 2009 @Spetz: I'm not convinced "people who have no idea what they're talking about might make a big deal about it" is a good reason not to do things, unless you particularly fancy having your entertainment possibilities being determined by the "morality" of Fox News. I'm pretty sure they could make a pretty big deal about a game very similar to ones used to train real soldiers being sold to the general public. Won't someone think of the children? I'd be very interested in this mod, but only if the OP is willing to play the part of the ass raped slave.Not quite so appealing now is it? I'm trying to work out what your point is. I'm failing pretty badly. Firstly, I would assume that being a slave would be dull (gameplay wise) so the role would be filled by the AI. So, nobody is being hurt by anything. Or are you going to argue that making AI characters be slaves is immoral or something? What about making AI characters run around so the player can shoot them? Get real. Even if players choose to play the role of "ass raped slave", I don't see a problem. I wouldn't want to be a slave in real life but if it's part of an entertaining gameplay experience, why not? I don't want to be a marine corps soldier IRL either, but it's fun to play one in Arma2 despite it being a nightmare in real life. So here's a gameplay concept: players take the role of either slaves or slavers (PvP). Slaves have an option (Action menu item?) to enter "slave mode" where they just do as they're ordered automatically. They can still look around and such. Slavers would have various options available to them, and would score points in two ways: humiliating the slaves (making them do degrading things) and economically (making the slaves mine or do other labour). The slavers would also have other things that require their attention, distracting them from watching their slaves. The slaves at any point can disable the slave mode and control their character as per normal. Weapons can be somehow built or obtained; perhaps smuggled in piece by piece? The slaves would wait until they're not being watched and then start shuffling the parts of the weapon around. Eventually they can build working guns with which to fight their slavers. Other options would include setting up booby traps using whatever materials are available. I think melee combat would need to be implemented. Slavers who wind up alone with a bunch of slaves could be mobbed; this would encourage them to carry weapons, thus meaning that taking down a slaver would give the slaves an extra gun. This probably wouldn't work as a part of an RPG, but could be a good multiplayer game - a bit different from the usual CTF fare. This could expand the number of people willing to contribute content (models etc.) which could be used in more expansive mods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andi 10 Posted June 26, 2009 Slave simulator? Come one, what's next? Demanding models of children and introduction of the pedobear mod? At start I thought this was fun, but now it really gets ridiculous :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spetz 0 Posted June 26, 2009 @Spetz: I'm not convinced "people who have no idea what they're talking about might make a big deal about it" is a good reason not to do things, unless you particularly fancy having your entertainment possibilities being determined by the "morality" of Fox News. I'm pretty sure they could make a pretty big deal about a game very similar to ones used to train real soldiers being sold to the general public. Won't someone think of the children? You don't realize that a mod that makes you rape women as a "US MARINE" or own a slave, would show that the Game ArmA 2 is UN-PATRIOTIC to the US, and the developers/distributors of this game are UN-PATRIOTIC and don't support "OUR TROOPS," They would be scorned like Micheal Moore Unless of course your a US marine liberating Slaves and rape victims from the evil communist Russians, then its all right, :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nomdeplume 0 Posted June 26, 2009 If it forced you to do those things, then it wouldn't be an "RPG" type game and isn't what is being discussed. But what if you have the option of doing things like that? Art allows us to explore the human condition, and not all parts of being human is flowers and puppy dogs. The fact is, vile acts have very commonly occurred en masse in most conflicts; and even in cases like Iraq where we're supposed to be saving them from an oppressive regime, our highly trained soldiers still succumb to temptations we all would prefer to pretend didn't exist. Of course, a game doesn't provide a real exploration of this, since none of it's real and it can easily become exploitation for the sake of it -- there aren't really any morality issues surrounding virtual rape of AI-controlled models. On the other hand, the amount of people expressing outrage or disgust at the very concept of it being in a game suggests that people aren't entirely rational and objective when it comes to games, so such acts clearly have some kind of meaning/morality to many people, even when none of it is real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cozza 24 Posted June 26, 2009 I'm not touching this debate with a ten foot stick. *Batdog Backs off and finds other threads to post in* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arma2mods 10 Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) To me seing a mod in A2 where u do nothing else than seek ur next casual impulsive action wouldnt particularly get aroused of the idea. The game is free to mod what ever you are like to want to get it to do so its user action and effort to bring what ever the content there is. There is nothing special to get playing some famous porn actor using dildo gun and shooting sperm jellies to score porepawnogares, this kind of stuff is bit not in society realities but possibilities. Community might have prepositions of values they are seeking from their products and some of elements arent looked from it such you named. I have personally have some interest made mod to realistically simulate the arabian/native terrorist freedom fighters manslaughtering americans and western forces in all blood and sweet. Minorities outweighting mayority what ever the context is inspirating. I am too looking things not only in A2 but other creation too against the intention of mainstream what ever it consist. Soerry that grammar monster. Edited June 26, 2009 by arma2mods add Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex72 1 Posted June 26, 2009 Voted top but only cause im of the opinion im not against censorship - unless were talking about pedophilia and other lowlife crap. However i have no desire of getting addons that has to do with nudity or any other useless shyte. Im playing ARMA cause i have interest in military combat. Alex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARGold 10 Posted June 26, 2009 There are different aspects to roleplaying the part of a Slave. I think previously I mentioned the series of "Gor" Novels by John Norman. He wrote of a fantasy "counter-earth" society where slavery was the norm. The hero (Tarl Cabot) spent much of his time as a slave and there were times later when he became master, and back to slave again. I don't think this fits into the ARMA world. Here I'm thinking of scenarios more like what has gone on and is still going on in the real world. Let's face it, slavery today is a reality. Yesterday I listened to an interveiw on NPR of someone high up in U.S. anti-slavery enforcement and he was discussing the fact that it is actually occurring on U.S. shores but the enforcement community is tiny and the population often does not recognize it happening right under their noses! Anyway, the setting of ARMA will work wel for "blood diamond" type scenarios and that is what I'm going to look into first - once I get back. BTW, I really think the poll results are interesting. Since the first day, the percentages have stayed pretty constant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted June 26, 2009 I'm curious however as to the mindset of the voters when they first read the poll. Do they read the posts in depth or do they see Adult and simply assume "sexually explicit". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robmuzz 12 Posted June 27, 2009 I think you hit the nail on the head with what you asked in the OP... There's no cover-up, it's simply that there is little interest! This is a community who enjoys realistic/semi-realistic military simulation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites