Bitter Chill-help!!

[maximus434 10]

This mission is the biggest joke ive ever seen in a game. I'm just after leaving the red car that NAPA drive you in, and have chosen to go to NAPA instead of CDF. But I cannot make it to them. I keep getting killed. The place is crawling with enemies, and they always attack, which sounds the alarm, which sends TWO fucking choppers after you. It is IMPOSSIBLE to complete. I've tried the stealth approach but either the enemy see us or one of my team opens fire, despite telling them to hold fire.

HELP!

[Master gamawa 0]

As soon as you get out of the trunk RUN AWAY! I took a north east route and hid under some trees, killed a few dudes on the top of the hill and escaped.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Finished this mission with first try. It was obvious I would never make it into town with this amount of hostile troops around and in it. So I went around it, stole a car in a nearby village and drove off.

[Jimmy the Saint 10]

I made it to the CDF border south west, it was not that troublesome, just kept my head low, stopped moving while the choppers were close, avoided the main roads and enemy ground units.

[RandomArmANoob 10]

I had no trouble, click ze spoiler if you want to know how I did the NAPA path:

1. So mission starts, Grab the Hummer sitting with low fuel, check your map and get to the check point. Go there as fast as you like. Once you get there grab the documents and bomb the joint.

2. Back to the base, talked to Sabre unit whatshisname and then talked to the NAPA commander, asked for them to help get Razor out. Follow him and the other NAPA boys down the hill, the commander will lead you to a car, Get in the car and then tell everyone else to get in. The AI will automaticly get into the boot/trunk of the car so you dont have to fiddle with it.

3. After some time driving the driver will tell you to get out. Do so imediately and head away from the car into the field, you should see some trees that will follow the main road. Hit them with your group and also make sure they are on HOLD FIRE. You dont want the stupid AI to shoot something, also put them on Aware and crouched. Some talk will go on, choose NAPA

4. Follow the tree bunch along the road. You should be north of the paved road. You will eventually hit a dirt road, if you look on your map there will be another tree group for you to move into. Get there as quick as possible. Important Note: There is a Group of Reds with Auto find on you and your team! One of your team will bitch about the ruskies and thats the cue to hit it. If it plays out similar to what it did with mine, the red will not be too far away. Order your team to stand up and start running to the NAPA point -> :::BUT::: Its safer if you arch around the hill and hit the next group of trees, that is, if you've looked at your map, you want to go from your tree line around the side of the hill to the next tree group and then come in behind the house. Going straight may make you visible to the enemy group and they are rather good shots. Its not too hard, but it make some time to figure out how the enemy squad goes about things.

I really hope that helps. The missions not that bugged.

[Samu81 10]

I went with the NAPA path but near the NAPA base at top of the hill, there came allways these 2 ruski squad + atleast one helicopter. After I realized what triggers em (for me the Rodriques starts talking about Marine and Air Force Pilot at the bathroom...), I just triggered em at the E side of NAPA hill. Then I laid low and went around the whole hill via S -> SW -> W and eventually N / NE to the NAPA base. Theres treeline that you can use but be sure to trigger those ruskies at the opposite side (E) of the hill.

[grimfer 10]

I didn't have much problems with this one actually, but I think I played on rookie setting, to be honest.

I found that it's important to find the DMR in what's left of Manhattan.

As soon as the red car stops, I regroup and get the team in close column (file) formation. Then I head straight into the field south-ish. There are some trees in the middle there. I used that point to scan the town, while the chopper deploys the spetz naz.

I ordered my team to Hold fire, and Danger.

Then I circled to the other side of the town, there was a small squad and an unmanned APC (don't remember what it's called) If you wait a little, you can kill the entire squad without raising the alarm.

We then took the APC to the rendez vous-point and talked to the NAPA guys.

Then

we went to the safe house as instructed by the NAPA guys, and on the way we met an infantry squad, but speed and superior firepower took care of that.

I've also tried another approach, but then I used the humvee and just raced into town. I had one man injured, but as long as we got to the rendez vous-point and escaped on the far side of town, we were home free. The enemies stayed away from that side.

[Starforce21 10]

After hours of trying this, I get to the NAPA base with the two guys. NOTHING HAPPENS. Ive even found Michel and the other guy in Nova Sabor. So i decide the only thing left I can do is wat till 1700....at 1700 it Coops tries to radio, cant get a response, also the scout challenges me with the bitter chill password. Also there are enemies EVERYWHERE. So i answer the password, and it fades out.

While it is fading out I get shot in the face. The cutscene with me using the phone plays, with the YOU ARE DEAD screen over the top of it. So I let it play out hoping it will still advance me to the next level.

Well, it didnt advance me. So I try to revert to my last save. It didnt advance me a level, but it did decide to delete all the saves from the mission, so now I have no choice but to s t a r t a g a i n

[CarlGustaffa 4]

You probably mean the NAPA escort. Try the trunk.

LOL! I never knew that :) Damn christ do I feel stupid now :D But, I wouldn't have had it any other way. It's actually a brilliant touch.

I've played the mission a few times, but my favourite way of handling "the problems" has been solved by doing it this way (takes a while):

1. I drive to the house, obtain the evidence file and plant the charge with a decent timer. That way I won't get interrupted on the way back.

2. Instead of going to the entrance to the FOB, I take the grassy shortcut. No contact until I'm on hill which makes it easy to defend. Spend some time re-equipping from the dead guys.

3. I don't call Star Force 21, and I even don't follow the NAPA guys. Instead I take the HMMWV and find a nice calm place to wait for darkness.

4. On a hill there will be a NAPA camp surrounded by Russian forces who engages me. Once these are handles, I talk to the NAPA guys, who's not interrested in talking to me after all. Guess I blew it by reporting the weapons.

5. After a long walk toward the NAPA objective, and probably a fight, I reach the position, but nobody is there. Because it is evening or night, or just bugged?

6. So only option left is to walk all the way to CDF. Or, fight the guys near the Vodnik and use that. With this you can speed drive to CDF site, only to find out you didn't have to go all the way.

So yeah, once you've played the mission and know what to do and what not to do, and still like the suspense part, you can play it out like I showed. It takes a long time, is tiring on your eyes (due to night time), involves a lot of "looking out for enemies", and avoiding contact where possible. I have everyone on "expert" difficulty, and I'm just not capable of winning unless I don't already have the upper hand (undetected).

Btw, what's the camo netting difficulty Jezuro mentioned?

[wraith_v 11]

This mission is becoming incredibly annoying for me

Using v 1.05 and no modifications

Firstly I took the priests guns away

1: I did all of the stuff at FOB manhattan

2:Talked to NAPA guys, they told me about the priest and 2 guys at Novy Sabor

3:Radio'd in starforce 21

4:got shot down

5:Chose NAPA in the discussion with squadmates

6:Headed to Novy Sabor, talked with guys there, they gave me the passcode

7:Headed to Altar only to find both rebels KIA! WTF! The other rebel squad at FOB manhattan also was not there (i'd previously followed them to that location)

Also, despite my guys assuring me that FOB manhattan is a 'ghost town' there is at least a dozen marines still wondering around like nothing happened including a couple of Force recon guys, very strange.

EDIT: Crap, i found a russian spec ops (i think so he had an ak 107 and NV) dead near the 2 rebels so the russians must have attacked the hill, looks like its off to the CDF for me :(

EDIT2: took a truck this time (thank you russian army :P) and managed to get to the rebels before the spec ops, finally!

EDIT3: after talking to shaftoe i regain controll of my character but there is nothing to do

EDIT4: Went to CDF base and still got the same bug, this is really stupid

I ended up using a console command to end the mission thanks Moktar

Edited March 21, 2010 by Wraith_V

[Makake 0]

I had to skip this one after the encounter at the manhattan fob where you meet NAPA soldiers.

First attempt - a T72 and hordes of soldiers gets up the hill and shreds everything to pieces and/or blocks ways in the woods around

Second, third and following 2 attempts - a helo drops hordes of soldiers, and a whole army is waiting at the base of the hill and in the woods. No chance to

escape the chopper - it is always (!) aware of where you are! this sucks, even

crawling does not help. that hind chopper always killed me or my squad members. I never reached one of the surrounding settlements alive.

how is this to be solved?

[pravinrocks4u 10]

The best policy in this mission is to ask team mates to hold fire, formation column and avoid every single enemy and reach NAPA or CDF. And always remember move cover to cover and do not attack a single enemy.

When I was playing this mission for the first time, I died only once, then I realized this mission was 'Escape' or 'Survive' type kind of mission instead of 'Find and Kill' type.

[Undeceived 392]

My experience with the red golf / hatchback is that if the driver doesn't drive away, it's because the leader of the group who brought you to the car died in the fight with the Chedakis right before reaching the car.

Try to make the leader survive and the golf should drive on.

But in my case the driver gets out of the car as the screen fades out (after the car began to move).

This results in sitting in the car on a road without driver and not being able to get out of the car.

Once I waited some minutes on setacctime x4 and then the driver came running :D and got in but then unfortunately he drove in the wrong direction (back to the east coast) and at one junction he stopped completely and did not move further.

Think I'll have to replay the whole mission too... :(

Edit: After replaying the whole mission it worked.

This time I tried to make it all faster, so the fire fight with the Chedaki near the red Golf did NOT happen. Everything worked finely then and I could continue the mission without bugs.

Edited November 8, 2010 by Undeceived