eble 3 Posted February 14, 2009 OH-58 Kiowa Warrior - Flashpoint to Arma conversion by Southy. Original BIS model from flashpoint. OH-58 Kiowa is a family of single-engine, single-rotor, military helicopters used for observation, utility, and direct fire support. Bell Helicopter originally manufactured the OH-58 for the United States Army, based on the 206A JetRanger helicopter. The Kiowa has been in continuous use by the U.S. Army since 1969. The latest model, the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior, is primarily operated in an armed reconnaissance role in support of ground troops. don't forget visit youtube to view HD version <OBJECT CLASSID="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" WIDTH=450 HEIGHT=332><PARAM NAME=MOVIE VALUE=http://www.armedassault.eu/Television/BISvideo.swf?vquality=hq&youtubeID1=s-c84fwPJcI&linkID1=http://au.youtube.com/user/eblevinda/&youtubeID2=mXmUer8uZDs&linkID2=&youtubeID3=Xa_mWynfTIY&linkID3=&youtubeID4=TS_5TXoSKsA&linkID4=&><PARAM NAME=PLAY VALUE=TRUE><PARAM NAME=LOOP VALUE=TRUE><PARAM NAME=QUALITY VALUE=HIGH><EMBED SRC=http://www.armedassault.eu/Television/BISvideo.swf?vquality=hq&youtubeID1=s-c84fwPJcI&linkID1=http://au.youtube.com/user/eblevinda/&youtubeID2=mXmUer8uZDs&linkID2=&youtubeID3=Xa_mWynfTIY&linkID3=&youtubeID4=TS_5TXoSKsA&linkID4=& WIDTH=450 HEIGHT=332 PLAY=TRUE LOOP=TRUE QUALITY=HIGH></EMBED></OBJECT> Current weapon systems fitted are: All versions have the Mast Mounted Sight, operated by the gunner, primary use is for laser designation/spotting. Zoom is approx 1.5 longer than cobra. Addon features normal/Spec maps for textures. Mast mounted sight, arma engine, no scripts no scripts used in the addon hellfires/rack taken from cobra  cut in half. Ah6 machine gun used in place of correct .50 cal weapon model UH60 main and small rotor used and reshaped/resized to fit. Revised and more balanced flight model. Basic shadows by wld427 from project RACS new textures by eddyD who built upon the great textures from vektorboson. Rotor sounds thanx to SGT_SAVAGE Weapon loadouts: 2 x Hellfire, 1 x XM296 .50 Cal. (12.7-mm) machine gun 2 x hellfire, 7 rnds FFAR 7 rnds FFAR, 1 x XM296 .50 Cal. (12.7-mm) machine gun 7 rnds FFAR, 7 rnds FFAR 2 x Hellfire, 2 x Stingers. Basics: 1. Copilot/gunner can lase and shoot hellfire.  (yes) 2. Pilot can shoot .50/rocks. (yes) 3. Copilot/gunner can lase for other aircraft/weapon systems. (yes) The version that has 2 x hellfire, 1 x .50 cal can self lase hellfires, meaning it can target objects at will, be it houses/structures etc as well as the normal targets. The other versions, can lase for any third party vehicle, be it the AV8 GBU harriers or any other addon that has laser lock weapons. The hellfires can lock onto laser targets so ground units can lase for all the Kiowas carrying hellfires. Special notes: hellfires can laser lock so two Kiowa's working in pink teams can fire Hellfires at fixed targets like buidlings etc. The first version, 2 x hellfire, 1 x M296 can self lock laser hellfires, first select the laser and ping the target, second use guns to lock target, second select hellfire and fire away, this is the only version that can self lock the hellfires. (takes practice to do this)I found this works as the gunner, not been able to get this to work as a pilot. Known issues  - important: Now things I'm aware off, the gun is lifted straight from the Ah6, so it works fine, but doesn't look 100% like a Kiowa's 50.cal gun does. Cockpit textures need a total overhaul. Rotors are lifted from the UH-60 and resized to the Kiowa. The Eyball isn't the correct shape. The FFAR version fires the last two rockets from the right hand side (arma engine coded?) Hellfire side. The Stinger version, fires the missiles from the hellfire side. Damage textures to be implemented. When in the turret view the gunner can use the cannon like the Cobra except it can fire in 360 degrees (AI gunners will also use the 50.cal gun like a normal turret weapon) I'm looking for help in the following areas: I need a fix for the gunner being able to fire the gun  following the eyeball line of sight, I need the gun fixed forward. Base class: Kiowa - FFAR/Hellfires OH58b - Hellfire/50.Cal OH58c - FFAR/50. Cal OH58d - FFAR OH58e - Hellfires/Stingers Special thanks to eddyD who built upon the great textures from vektorboson. And thanks to wld427 from project RACS for fault finding many times. Right time to open myself up to my monthly community abuse session. This addon is far from perfect, but it brings the Kiowa to Arma. The MLOD are available on request as I have used BIS models etc I have to make them available to all. Most of all I hope people have fun with this addon, I will be updating as I go along, but the best testers are you guys. Cheers Southy Beta v2.5 Changed the minigun model for the M2 .50 cal reduced the engine noise level, should stop the engine distortion. Beta V2.0  - 08/03/09 Changelog: Cockpit textures now look correct all cockpit dials/guages work as intended machine gun power reduced Machine gun rate of fire and sound altered. It's only a small change but I thought it was important to get the revised cockpit out as soon as possible. download beta v2.5 here 08/03/09 Kiowa Beta v2.5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmaVidz 0 Posted February 14, 2009 Long awaited, highly anticipated. I am trying this right now, thanks Southy!!! Edit #1: The flight model is fantastic - you've really outdone yourself on this one Southy! Not that I consider myself a pilot in the least, but I can put this beauty down on a rooftop (for testing purposes only). Man, if you ever get a chance to alter the BI default flight models/characteristics. There are minor issues, as I am sure you aware. -Some areas of cockpit are transparent (left/right sides) -No damage textures for fuselage. -Main rotor sound: sounds distorted at times. -Cockpit guages still a wip(?) Fantastic work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manzilla 1 Posted February 14, 2009 Oops I just cr@#ped my pants.(As in the old SNL skit.) Thanks southy! I'm pumped to give this a whirl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD Mast 0 Posted February 14, 2009 Right on...thanks Southy! Â GD Mast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eble 3 Posted February 14, 2009 Long awaited, highly anticipated. I am trying this right now, thanks Southy!!!Edit #1: The flight model is fantastic - you've really outdone yourself on this one Southy! Not that I consider myself a pilot in the least, but I can put this beauty down on a rooftop (for testing purposes only). Man, if you ever get a chance to alter the BI default flight models/characteristics. There are minor issues, as I am sure you aware. -Some areas of cockpit are transparent (left/right sides) -No damage textures for fuselage. -Main rotor sound: sounds distorted at times. -Cockpit guages still a wip(?) Fantastic work! Thanks mate, if anything I'm happiest about the 'balance' of the flight model. Too many times I've struggled to get a helo to land exactly where I wanted it to, not anymore with this one  Yeah I'm aware this addon has some real problems that need fixing. Lets keep reporting stuff you guys find, gives me a list of fixes to be made. Cockpit and damage textures are very mucn WIP, cockpit texture need some real work and damage textures are missing altogether. Southy PS don't forget as this addon has to be open source because it's basically BIS models, if you can fix something, ask me the MLOD and files and fix it, simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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snoops_213 75 Posted February 14, 2009 cool chopper man and one that was sorely missed for a long time. I get an error (No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgModels/Default.sections'.) Â when i start a mission trying to use these. This was tried using ACE aswell as not using ACE or any other mods, still the same thing. Updating base class MGun->, by oh58\config.bin/cfgWeapons/M134/ Updating base class ->MGun, by ca\hotfix\config.bin/CfgWeapons/M134/ Updating base class SoldierEB->SoldierE, by ca\hotfix\qg\config.bin/CfgVehicles/SoldierPTeamLeader/ Warning: no idc entry inside class RscDisplayStart/controls/Progress2 In Vehicle: oh58\oh58c.p3d missing driver get in direction point In Vehicle: oh58\oh58c.p3d missing codriver get in direction point Error: bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/OH58c/Turrets/MainTurret/: Turret body sensors_turret not found while initializing the model oh58\oh58c.p3d In Vehicle: oh58\oh58c.p3d missing gunner get in direction point Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgModels/Default.sections'. Warning Message: Size: '/' not an array Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgModels/Default.sectionsInherit'. Warning Message: '/' is not a value Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgModels/Default.sections'. Warning Message: Size: '/' not an array Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgModels/Default.sectionsInherit'. Warning Message: '/' is not a value Empty word in sentence '' 'xmit' In Vehicle: oh58\oh58e.p3d missing driver get in direction point In Vehicle: oh58\oh58e.p3d missing codriver get in direction point Error: bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/OH58e/Turrets/MainTurret/: Turret body sensors_turret not found while initializing the model oh58\oh58e.p3d In Vehicle: oh58\oh58e.p3d missing gunner get in direction point From my ArmA.rpt file if that helps any. Oh and for some reason i cant fire the laser Designator either, the rest of the weapons are fine though. This is a great start and hope to see this maybe even donated to the ACE Mod? Keep up the great work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt_savage 586 Posted February 14, 2009 -Main rotor sound: sounds distorted at times. Hmm I didn't test it in game before I sent it to Southy, Its clipping a bit just need to back it off (drop volume) then it should be ok, I'll have another look at it and fix if southy releases an updated version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eble 3 Posted February 14, 2009 -Main rotor sound: sounds distorted at times. Hmm I didn't test it in game before I sent it to Southy, Its clipping a bit just need to back it off (drop volume) then it should be ok, I'll have another look at it and fix if southy releases an updated version Yeah sure mate, just taking stock of what people find etc, once we get a good list going then, I can start to clean these up for the next version. Southy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 14, 2009 This is definitely a helicopter that WAS REALLY NEEDED!!! Â It has seen a tremendous amount of combat in Iraq and is perfect for hunter/killer missions or emergency air support missions. Â Ok...so far I've only tested the XEH version. Â What I'm confused is why there are two versions. Â Shouldn't the XEH version work fine by itself also??? At any rate, I did not get any errors flying the helicopter or in the gunner position. Â I also put the helicopter into combat against my Taliban (with me playing one of the Taliban guys) and likewise did not see any error messages. On the issue of the rotor sound, I did not hear any significant distortion. Â They sounded pretty much how I remembered the Kiowa's sounding like in real life. Â My only BIG BIG beef with this helicopter is that the MG turns 380 degrees. Â Please figure out how to lock the MG in a forward position. Â I really hope that this is possible. Maybe I'll have a look at the config and see if I can figure something out. Â Let me know if I can help you on that. Oh also, when you look straight down through the ball-mounted FLIR you can see through the roof of the helicopter and the gunner has no head. Â lol. Â So you might limit how far the FLIR/laser can move up and down just a little bit. Aside from that, the only other problem I had was that the helicopter is tremendously armored (more then the BIS AH-1). Â Since its so lightly armed, I guess its not a big deal, plus in real life, they stay in the air quite a bit longer then in ArmA (that goes for all helicopters in general). But armor levels are up to you guys to decide. Â Overall I find it a lovely little helicopter and I really hope that the MG can be locked into a forward position. Â I'm looking forward to the next version of this excellent conversion!!! Â OH and GREAT JOB Vektorboson/EddyD on the textures. Â Beautiful work! Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eble 3 Posted February 14, 2009 This is definitely a helicopter that WAS REALLY NEEDED!!! Â It has seen a tremendous amount of combat in Iraq and is perfect for hunter/killer missions or emergency air support missions. Â Ok...so far I've only tested the XEH version. Â What I'm confused is why there are two versions. Â Shouldn't the XEH version work fine by itself also??? At any rate, I did not get any errors flying the helicopter or in the gunner position. Â I also put the helicopter into combat against my Taliban (with me playing one of the Taliban guys) and likewise did not see any error messages. On the issue of the rotor sound, I did not hear any significant distortion. Â They sounded pretty much how I remembered the Kiowa's sounding like in real life. Â My only BIG BIG beef with this helicopter is that the MG turns 380 degrees. Â Please figure out how to lock the MG in a forward position. Â I really hope that this is possible. Maybe I'll have a look at the config and see if I can figure something out. Â Let me know if I can help you on that. Oh also, when you look straight down through the ball-mounted FLIR you can see through the roof of the helicopter and the gunner has no head. Â lol. Â So you might limit how far the FLIR/laser can move up and down just a little bit. Aside from that, the only other problem I had was that the helicopter is tremendously armored (more then the BIS AH-1). Â Since its so lightly armed, I guess its not a big deal, plus in real life, they stay in the air quite a bit longer then in ArmA (that goes for all helicopters in general). But armor levels are up to you guys to decide. Â Overall I find it a lovely little helicopter and I really hope that the MG can be locked into a forward position. Â I'm looking forward to the next version of this excellent conversion!!! Â OH and GREAT JOB Vektorboson/EddyD on the textures. Â Beautiful work! Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Thanks mate, I'm hoping some wiz will be able to come along and in 2 secs flat tell me how to keep the FLIR movement but restrict the gun to forward facing only. I toyed around with restricting the gunner to hellfires and the laser and giving the FFAR and guns to the pilot only, now problem with that is the pilot can't override and use the hellfires or laser. Feel free to have a look at whatever you like, anything that improves the addon all helps etc. Current armour values: Cobra - 60 UH60 - 30 Kiowa - 35 Ah6 - 20 MH6 - 20 I tried to pitch the damage to better than an AH6 but not as good as the cobra. I'll tweak it further maybe use 25 or something. Cheers Southy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manzilla 1 Posted February 14, 2009 What is the difference between the XEH version and the other one? At first glance the only difference I could see is "Extended_Eventhandlers" added to requiredaddons= line. I may have missed something but I'm not sure XEH is even necessary, I didn't see any eventhandlers and the likes in the non-XEH version that would require the compatibility change. I just did a quick glance at both versions so maybe I missed something. These are great southy. Thanks again to you and all involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eble 3 Posted February 14, 2009 What is the difference between the XEH version and the other one? At first glance the only difference I could see is "Extended_Eventhandlers" added to requiredaddons= line. I may have missed something but I'm not sure XEH is even necessary, I didn't see any eventhandlers and the likes in the non-XEH version that would require the compatibility change.I just did a quick glance at both versions so maybe I missed something. These are great southy. Thanks again to you and all involved. I normally make all my addons XEH compatible, I've not actually made one without scripts before. When I did the first Kiowa release, I got worried it wouldn't work in XEH enviroment, so I made the second XEH version. From my testing in ACE both work, but at least people can choose, if they don't have XEH installed they won't get a 'required addon error' etc. Probably over kill but it took like 2 mins to do. Southy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 14, 2009 Hmm... Â it may not be the armor that I noticed then... Â because I saw two SA-7 missiles blow up in close proxmity to the Kiowa (which would have caused the ACE AH-1 Cobra to go into a tailspin). Â For now maybe keep the armor how it is. Â I'd rather not see it get shot down as easy as the little bird (which is just waaaay to easy to shoot down). Â It's always pissed me off seeing the AH-6 and MH-6 last all of 40 seconds before getting shot down almost every time. Sometimes they'd get lucky and be able to make a second pass, but usually they never survive long enough to make a 3rd or 4th pass if there are alot of enemy fighters. As for the MG issue... yeah that's a tough one. Â I guess you already did what I was thinking of trying. Â I really hope someone can help fix that issue. Â Also you might ask the Mapfacts people about using their FLIR system that they use in their Apaches. Â That would REALLY kick ass if the Kiowa had that on it. Â It does alot to enhance the feeling of realism. At any rate, it's awesome seeing the Little Bird circling overhead on the Avgani map as U.S. Army and Iraqi Army guys move down the streets searching for insurgents. Â Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
styxx42 0 Posted February 14, 2009 Sweet Jehosophat. Thanks for this little beauty Southy. Loved it in OPF and can't wait to run around in her in ARMA. Styxx42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 131 Posted February 14, 2009 Theres something strange going on when you look down on the chopper through the allseeing eye  http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd85/magicAAA/divers/oh58bug.jpg Also the tailrotor 'rotates' quite funny, there might be something wrong with the centerpoint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
modemmaik 53 Posted February 14, 2009 The ARMA.RPT shows some messages (using the non-XEH): Quote[/b] ]In Vehicle: oh58\oh58d.p3d missing driver get in direction pointIn Vehicle: oh58\oh58d.p3d missing codriver get in direction point Error: bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/OH58d/Turrets/MainTurret/: Turret body sensors_turret not found while initializing the model oh58\oh58d.p3d In Vehicle: oh58\oh58d.p3d missing gunner get in direction point I had some problems with the direction points in my tanks, too. Best way will be to copy them from the BI-samples MH6 and move them to the correct position. Thanks for this beautifull addon  mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Binkowski 26 Posted February 15, 2009 Thank you for your hard work Southy. Been waiting for a Kiowa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archangel08 0 Posted February 15, 2009 awesome love it! but would like to see a real xm296 .50 cal on there with a realistic firing rate/damage the minigun u got on there destroys tanks within seconds of firing unless thats just me plus just looks too small for the kiowa otherwise great heli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eble 3 Posted February 15, 2009 Theres something strange going on when you look down on the chopper through the allseeing eye  http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd85/magicAAA/divers/oh58bug.jpg Also the tailrotor 'rotates' quite funny, there might be something wrong with the centerpoint. I've known about that from the start, thought it was very funny thanks for the reports guys keep em coming, makng a list for the first revision. Things i'm looking to fix for next version: force gun to fire from a fixed position. reduce the firepower of the gun. alter angle of the mast mounted sight, so it can longer see through the helo. add damage textures reduce the RPT errors where possible get the cockpit textures looking better and working and finally maybe make a few different versions, an unarmed one for spotting only, any suggestions. Southy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luki 53 Posted February 15, 2009 Nice bird southy. For the get in direction points il try to explane how they work: greets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archangel08 0 Posted February 15, 2009 why did u lift the gun off the ah6 btw? and not just mount an m2 on there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eble 3 Posted February 15, 2009 why did u lift the gun off the ah6 btw? and not just mount an m2 on there? real reason is the Ah6 gun was there on the sample model and it took 1 minute to do. Lots more work to be done on that gun I know. Cheers southy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NutzMcKracken 17 Posted February 15, 2009 Southy or Eble, in working on the turret system for the F-111 (haven't been working on it for a few weekls lately, life has been busy lately) I found that the guns will follow the turret movement despite the fact. I was thinking that maybe like the ACE mod Helos where the pilot has a seperate selection of weapons (7 FFAR on AH-1 for example) then the co-pilot or gunner. You could assign them accordingly so that the pilot himself has controls of the .50 Cal and the gunner has access to the other weapons that are guided (TOW's, HellFires Etc) not to mention the Laser Designator. This way I think the guns wont fall under the turret system that the Co-pilot has control of. I just found some "free" time to pop in for a bit after giving the lovely lady some love on this Valentine's Day. I'll check it out later as I'll be free for the next couple days and am going to get back on track with our F-111 PAVETACK project. But like you said ont aht...Turrets in jet aircraft seem to not work as we all would hope! Sorry just been busy as of late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites