alternative history WWII 1952

[WingedSerpent1969 0]

i was wondering if anyone was interested in this mod scenario before any modding took place so here goes;

the concept pitch;

the normandy landings were proceding to plan but berlin stalled the allied advance with biological weapons before they re crossed the franco german border.Germany put all its remaining manufacturing capacity into producing wuderwaffen in an attempt to hold the allies at bay with exotic wepons technologies.

http://greyfalcon.us/restore....ONS.htm

kolibri attack helecopter squadrons wreaked havoc upon un protected infantry units and waffen SS Vampyr units terrified with a new night sight technology.http://www.tankhunters.net/vitrina/NACHTJAGER2.JPG

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/articles/images/vampir.jpg

jet fighter evolution was incredible and the allies had to put vast resources into its own exotic weapons development.

http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules....id=1293

http://world.guns.ru/assault/em2.jpg

The western reaches of France, Belgum and the Netherlands became a no mans land but for jet fighter aces and a new breed of special soldiers.

i think it could be an interesting mod if it has legs...

how about you the community

thanks for the time you took to read this

Winged serpent1969

OH CRAP....hope iposted in the right forum

[Casimir 0]

Sounds an interesting propsal, i like the sound of it, however im not so keen on you sleeping wiht my sister

[WingedSerpent1969 0]

fair enough

[Tom49 0]

Soviets fell over?

[WingedSerpent1969 0]

german withdrawl from motherland and threat of biological V3 attacks on moscow stalled russian reprisals and russian intelligence indicated germany was in possesion of 2 working atom bombs.

[Col. Faulkner 0]

The scenario is crazy (biological weapons aren't really that

effective) but making some 1950s equipment and some of the

experimental things might be interesting. BTW I already made

a couple of EM-2s (No.9 Mk 1 and its arctic variant).

[NoRailgunner 0]

Were is the plot or lets say bit more of the story?

Maybe try making some addons like Go229, M262, Me163 and other WWII things (eg. working radar stations "Freya", "Wuerzburg") first.

[william1 0]

the only way germany could , not win , but at least reach to a position in wich he could negotiate with the allies, is that Germany  would have developed and made a considerable amount of atomic bombs before USA and the URSS. but as hypothesis is interesting.

[WingedSerpent1969 0]

i think i remember reading somthing about the german scientists woking on the atom bomb being deliberatelly slow so it would never be deployed... there was also the Telemark heavy water plant being put out of action by a truly superhuman effot by Norwegian commandos

i supose an unsuccesful Telemak mission and willing scientists would have meant a very different life for us all

@Col. Faulkner

wow cant wait to see an EM-2 in arma

a,,nd i suppose it all depends on the biological agent....its the delivery that is a bitch

at the time memories of the millions killed by the flu pandemic would create total panic

imagine POWs released and infected with ebola...

[ArmaVidz 0]

I think the full, accurate history including Hitler's obsession with the occult; not to mention the fumbles that inevitably became costly to the Nazi War Machine, is much, much, much more interesting.

[cl10k 0]

I think the plot needs some work to be more convencing, otherwise an excellent idea. There are some movies dealing with this idea and some games (p.e. Hearts of Iron2, Panzergeneral) that could provide a good start on the topic. Imo it should stay as realistic as a fictional timeline can be - there no need for Nazi UFO and that Zombie Wolfenstein stuff...

[belgerot 33]

I agree with cl10k, I feel that the plot will unfold as the project goes on.

It would be most interesting however seeing just what sort of arsenal the Germans would have in 1952, as well as the equipment they would use.

I would love to see more widened use of Leibermuster pattern uniforms or more developed Nachtjägern.

[Sennacherib 0]

biological stuff, well for me this is crazy.

that would be better if Stalin was murdered and that the new soviet government makes peace with germany.

[WingedSerpent1969 0]

@ d@nte

sounds reasonable .......i like your train of thought

[william1 0]

I think the plot needs some work to be more convencing, otherwise an excellent idea. There are some movies dealing with this idea and some games (p.e. Hearts of Iron2, Panzergeneral) that could provide a good start on the topic. Imo it should stay as realistic as a fictional timeline can be - there no need for Nazi UFO and that Zombie Wolfenstein stuff...

surely we could expect some toys made by Werner von Braun...

[modemmaik 53]

biological stuff, well for me this is crazy.

that would be better if Stalin was murdered and that the new soviet government makes peace with germany.

Plus a successfull ardennes offensive, which means that the allies get disconnected from the atlantic harbors, thus must face for the mediterranean sea to get resupplied?

But that would have delayed the allied forces only for some months, but not years...  

[NoRailgunner 0]

For the story you should read the novel "Fatherland" by Robert Harris.  

Here you can get a little preview: Fatherland (wiki)

[ravenholme 50]

"Fatherland" is a very, very good book.

[WingedSerpent1969 0]

been thinking about the concept for this ......

maybe making a shift in direction.....

looking at the weapons germany had in development i may be condidering a collection of exotic weapons that ww2 mod players can use  e.g.

a commando mission to destroy an ss panzer company deploying the PANZERKAMPFWAGEN VIII MAUS

http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Pictures/mau16.

or to destroy the prototype ss scwatrzwolf before it is proved battle ready

http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/picturest/t2.jpg

even as simple as the 2 alleged ready nuclear weapons in crates destined for the U234 or  the Amerikabomber at the super runway in Norway nr Oslo

http://users.belgacom.net/airimg1/avion1/19456.jpe

any way its an interesting area and i  think it needs some more defining before i jump in

   

i shall attemt to consult with the WWII mods to find common ground and avoid overlap ttfn

[Col. Faulkner 0]

You could make those even more interesting and "cloak and

dagger" by making them SOE sabotage operations (assuming

your focus isn't going to be predominantly American).

Please, no "sneak in all on your lonesome and blow up all the

big tanks with satchel charges" missions, though.  

[WingedSerpent1969 0]

was actually thinking more along the lines of No. 2 Parachute Commando before the formation of the special services and yet still in uniform.....early days plenty of room for fubar....no certainty that the mission you are playing can be done without terrible losses or that sheer luck would play an important role...need to do more research re uniforms etc

anyhoo ttfn

i know this deviates from the original alt time line but it has piqued my interest and im just running with it...