Yoma 0 Posted July 23, 2008 Hi guys I'm just wondering... As Arma uses a streaming engine, sometimes you can notice visible lodshifting when you move around fast around the map. (I use a raid 0 setup and still it tends to do this once in a while) OCZ just came out with a new SSD drive that has very very nice read/access times and that's actually coming close to be affordable. I know there are a lot of hardware-buffs playing Arma. So i wondered, does anyone of you actually own one of these drives and have Arma installed on it? Does it perform any better then a spinning HD? Please only respond if you've actually seen the game run on one. I don't want this topic reduced to a "yes no" for SSD, i just want to know how it performs. It may very well be that it behaves just about the same and that the actual bottleneck is simply not in reading from disk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 132 Posted July 23, 2008 How exactly it performs i dont know because i dont have one Some lucky guys put it up against the VelociRaptor - read more here: http://hothardware.com/News....ak_Peek imho ArmA would benefit alot from either the raptor and the ssd drive, but both still are'nt 'grown up' enough to be considerable .. just like dual gfx cards still are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted July 28, 2008 OCZ Sata SSD Review @ Guru3D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted July 28, 2008 Hm, it is tempting to buy one for OS and arma.... But I guess I save the money for now and wait for the first real pricedrop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Sarkey 0 Posted July 29, 2008 The biggest worry with SSD is the number of cycles they can handle which seems iffy as of now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted July 29, 2008 guru3d says having 16GB of data used every day will have your SSC life 100 years...that is the theory anyways.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tha_Man 0 Posted July 29, 2008 There are already several reviews available of the Core series (Google is your friend ), but the biggest downside of this SSD seems to be the random write speed/access time. The MTBF (mean time between failures) is at least as high as conventional disks, if not a lot higher. I wouldn't be afraid that your SSD wears out. Reads can be done very quickly (up to 140MB/s, 0.3ms access time) so that would make it perfect for a disk to play your games from (mostly read operations). Having your OS installed on it, with perhaps a swap file and temporary files to store (write!, might be less beneficial than conventional HDD's due to the higher random write access times (up to 240ms, what I've read versus ~12ms read/write for HDD's). New HDD's may for now still be the best and cheapest option, since 100MB/s read is quite normal nowadays. There is however great potential for SSD's as the prices go down and hopefully, performance goes up! I'm willing to give it a try when my budget allows me to, because as I said, SSD's can surely benefit games because of the low read access times, I'm sure Arma will benefit a lot; especially with high speed movement and high viewing distances (loads of textures to load). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoma 0 Posted August 1, 2008 So my question still remains: Does anyone have one and if so how does it perform? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gL33k 0 Posted August 2, 2008 So my question still remains:Does anyone have one and if so how does it perform with arma? Fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoma 0 Posted August 4, 2008 Euhm fixed as in : who out there HAS one and can share FIRSTHAND experience? Where? I didn't see anyone write that he has one and that arma does better on it then on his regular HD. So again: how does it REALLY perform in Arma? (I know how it's SUPPOSED to perform but i wanna hear real life experiences) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobrainer 0 Posted August 6, 2008 If you read the review, there are serveral conserns. I don't know how ArmA does things, but in the review it says, "slow on small files" and many cfg or cpp or whatever is small in size for Arma. But then again most are packed inside a pbo, so I think all those files just get read into memory... Since your Windows just gets faster it should perform better overall. But take this in mind... Quote[/b] ]But let's put that in a formula:Say that you write 16 GB worth of data each day (which really is a lot), including the swap file/memory paging, etc. Â Â * It will take 4 days to fill the card (16GB x 4 Days = 64 GB). So one ("1") write (wear)cycle = 4 days. Â Â * A 10,000 write cycle will take 10,000 x 4 = 40.000 days of usage at 16 GB per day before the limit is reached. This is the equivalent of 40.000 / 365.25 = 109 years of usage. Now the dilemma that is inside my head. What if 62 GB out of 64 GB is written, and the remaining 2 GB constantly rewrites due to log files and random stuff like swap files. That's the unsecure factor that nobody can answer. As that remaining 2 GB would wear out much much faster. So I think he talks about failure on parts of the memory due to much write on some parts of the disk. I see his point... I think you will gain much on this if you use 2 or more disks in some kind of RAID where striping is used, but I'm not sure if this is the time to invest in SSD. Since your "maybe"planing to use it on a desktop and not in a fileserver, those disk might stand the task of living long, but that we don't know right now. Micron has just released P200 SSD disk that are alot faster than OCZ, but then again they are much more expensive. And many of SSD disk have a failed after "short" timeon those laptops that have used them, but that is Samsung's SSD disks. And those where "early" SSD disks. I would love to buy one, but can't afford it right now. Best retard NoBrainer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
choC 10 Posted July 22, 2009 I'd like to give this thread a well deserved bump as it's been a while since it was created and SSD's are gaining in popularity. Anybody had the chance to run Arma 2 with their SSD yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3244 Posted July 22, 2009 Yup. Can no longer live without it. Intel M series here - rebranded by Kingston. Load up times are so much faster. Cannot make a good statement about texture loading / LOD swapping. Yet for a config dev, how needs to start the game again and again, as well as loading different islands, is a HUGE improvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baff1 0 Posted July 22, 2009 Righto, if it's not improving texture LODs load speed, then I'm no longer intrested. I'll spend the money elsewhere. Thanks for the advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desertjedi 3 Posted July 27, 2009 Righto, if it's not improving texture LODs load speed, then I'm no longer intrested. Yes, it would be very cool if the "popping" stopped - especially when you look through binocs. I'm trying to put one in my business box (OCZ Vertex 30GB SSD) but it's been nothing but trouble. After only two months, it developed permanent bad sectors which effectively made it unusable - at least for various backup utilities I tried. If the replacement proves to be anything less than 100% reliable (pretty much like every other HDD I've used), I may shove it my gaming rig and see what happens with Arma and other games. A little OT but Windows 7 booting from an SSD is VERY fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eotore 10 Posted August 4, 2009 Isnt there that new ocz turbo series out now which solves alot of problems and runs the same now if not better then hd?They bumped up the controller speed from 160 to 180ghz no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites