Ww1 minimod

[tankieboy 0]

ProfT, I also love that you have added bayonets, however I was thinking more of a "Group Fix Bayonets" command like found with the excellent (biased) P:UKF SA80 series.

I just have visions via a group command script (SOS for example) of an advance to contact into no-man's-land with bayonets fixed.

[ProfTournesol 956]

Quote[/b] ]Is there a way to make the animation of hitting with the dagger a bit faster? Coz in Napoleonic it took quite a while and enemies ran away while i was stabbing them.

Nope, cause i won't modify the main config.bin (and the cfgmoves) to enable a compatibility of the mod with others. And it makes stabbing harder, which is quite realistic, and fair for AI.

Quote[/b] ]ProfT, I also love that you have added bayonets, however I was thinking more of a "Group Fix Bayonets" command like found with the excellent (biased) P:UKF SA80 series.

I just have visions via a group command script (SOS for example) of an advance to contact into no-man's-land with bayonets fixed.

yep, i agree with this, i know these scripts because we modified them for Civil War Mod, but i'll include them only as a "mission maker feature" (such as the gas attack), which allows mission makers to use a "group, fix bayonet !" action if they want, or simply use units with bayonets already fixed.

[diggin.robat 0]

N.B, the Vickers in the last link (the P.S) is a 1950 addition, which has features not commonly found on WW1 MG's( the belt system, muzzle flaring, sites) ; But thanks anyway.

Yes, you are right! Actually I was a bit distracted when looking at these pics.

Speaking of MGs. Since WWI tactics included their use as a indirect barrage weapon with artillery aiming methods, I wonder how that could, theoretically, be displayed in OFPmatters. I´m really impressed by CoC artillery system and remember playing a SEB Nam mission where the player had to defend LZ x-ray with a radio calling in arty strikes. I really like the recreated method.

Indirect MG barrages were made with MG batteries.

In one recorded mission at the Somme a british 10 gun battery shootng at a target zone some 2000 yards away during an allied offensive. The rapid fire was maintained for 12 hours consuming 999750 rounds (one particular gun shooting more then 120000), 20 gallons of cooling water and all obtainable urin tins. German counterstrikes were constantly broken in their concentration zone alone. Such indirect MG barrage were a killer in WWI, a tactic not used at large scale in WWII. The impact of thousands of bullets raining soundless down at an instance at a nearly vertical angle was seemingly a nightmare.

I too have already an idea for a missio, when Prof Tournesol will finish his mod: Experience the fate of a runner messenger running from a rear HQ to the frontline during a preliminary bombardment of all calibres...

@ProfTournesol

Nice to have bayonets now! It will make trenchfighting more nasty. Nice work on the digger!

Now something for you all (not overly realistic, but nice to see):

diggin

[tankieboy 0]

Nice picture. When Men were Men eh.

[TheJackle 0]

I'm glad to see bayonets being added. The way that I would force the AI to use bayonets would be to add a trigger just before there position to remove there ammo. I know it is quite a simple solution, but it allows the user to enable charges, where the AI switch to bayonets once they reach the enemy's position.

[diggin.robat 0]

Gents, something close to our discussions and right to get into the mood. See the New Zealand Rifles fixing bayonets, a Mark IV crawling along and Bristol Fighter hunted down:

Sadly, Pete Jackson just tested his new toy a digital camera. No, there seems to be no major WWI film made by him, although he is very interested in WWI matters.

Enjoy!

diggin

[tankieboy 0]

That's a good idea.

[diggin.robat 0]

Prof Tournesol, I hope you don´t mind that I post my thoughts an ideas regardless of the progress your work. This is not meant as a negative critic on the WWI mod, but just as comments, which may be used as ideas for future versions. Sure I´m happy if it will help you.

Just to continue:

The german "Tankgewehr"

This was the very first light infantry anti tank weapon.

Produced from May 1918 on, it was the a relative quick answer to the allied tank thread, especially since Cambrai 1917. With a cablibre of 13mm it resembled an oversized Mauser rifle with a pistol grip as a single loader. Ca. 16500 were produced and a fair amount was distrubuted among frontline units. It was wielded by a two men team, one carrying the gun, while his comrade carried most of the ammo. In reality, the two had to exchange each other, since the recoil was very heavy, bonebraking and the gunners complained of dizzyness and headache after a few shots...

Armourpiercing was good for those times at 25mm of armour plate at 50m (at 90°) with 785m/s. Enough for several british Mark Modells. The bullet just pierced the armour and a number of

hits were needed to put a tank out of action. Question was the right tactic, as at that range the team was vulnerable for tank escorting infantry. It is said tat 1% of all disabled allied tanks were put out of action by te Tankgewehr.

At least the gun was a morale booster for the tank threaded german infantry ("Tankschreck") and the allied tankers had a high if unnecessary respect for that weapon, which, after the war, was along with a 13mm MG prototype the base for the US Browning .50.

In OFP terms, I remember the LIB mod displaying the russian PTRS very well. I really lke the idea to experience tankhunting with it in the WWI mod. Interesting would be to display the shock when shooting...

#

Have a look at:

Tankgewehr

Anti Tank Rifle Collection

Landship - Tankgewehr

diggin

[ProfTournesol 956]

Spad's Rolls Royce Armoured Car retextured by myself(camouflaged or not)

@ diggin.robat : very interesting information. Maybe for the next release... Tanks are very effectively engaged by infantry (grenades, flamethrower), field artillery, other tanks and AFV (Mounted MG and tanks armor are designed to allow female tanks vs female tanks engagements). And no, it doesn't bother me at all that you post ideas.

[diggin.robat 0]

Now, this is really my favorite AC!

Very nice, Prof! One day we could need a sand coloured and open topped one with El Lawrence standing in the turret.

cheers

diggin

[HxCxFxL 0]

Nice textures on the car in the front of the pic very nice

Found some nice WWI color photos (@ProfT some inspiration for your no mans land, but I think you have a lot of work with your "mini mod" )

Commune Chaulnes

Département Somme

Nom de l'édifice

Nom de l'objet

Légende Ensemble de la ville, arbres morts

Commune Chaulnes

Département Somme

Nom de l'édifice Château

Nom de l'objet

Légende Entrée, allée d'arbres morts

Commune Chaulnes

Département Somme

Nom de l'édifice Château

Nom de l'objet

Légende Panorama pris du haut du château (supposé) ; arbres morts

For all who wanna see more pics look at

http://www.mediatheque-patrimoine.culture.gouv.fr/fr.....html#2

[Igor101AD 0]

HxCxFxL: Awsome photos man!

ProfT: Your WW1 BigMod is beatiful! Can't wait to make some big offensive on Lamentein let's say  

By the way, people thinks that the most bloodies fights were fought in western front, like Verdun, Marne, Somma etc. They're right, thats true, but most of people in western Europe don't know much about eastern front. For example one of most forgotten battles of WW1 is battle of Åódź. I live in Åódź myself, and I don't want it to be forgotten.

Here's some links:

http://www.lodz1914.pl/index.php?lang=pl&page=136 <- in polish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_%C5%81%C3%B3d%C5%BA_(1914) <- wikipedia

http://www.westernfrontassociation.com/thegrea....odz.htm

Enjoy  

Sorry for little offtopic  

Oh, almost forgot to ask: will the bayonet attack have animation from Liberation or your own one?

[ProfTournesol 956]

Well, German daimler marienfelde truck (early version), and German driver :

@ HxCxFxL : very nice pictures.. I think that once the mod will be beta released, someone will have to rework my NoMan'sLand island.

@ Igor101AD : no problemo with talking about the eastern front. I don't borrow anything from Lib Mod, the anim comes from CWmod, originally a UKF mod one.

@ diggin.robat : a very nice addition would be (after this release, hey !  ) to work on the Palestine / Turkish / East fronts. I'd like to make some colonial infantry...

[HxCxFxL 0]

Wow great work like always ProfT

[Igor101AD 0]

Driver looks fine ProfT! The windshield looks a bit funny, but its ok!

And by the way: what weapon is driver equipped?

[ProfTournesol 956]

Quote[/b] ]The windshield looks a bit funny, but its ok!

As funny as the original one :

Quote[/b] ]

And by the way: what weapon is driver equipped?

Mauser 96.

EDIT : repost image.

[Igor101AD 0]

As funny as the original one :

   

Is it possible to release this mod before end of august? I'd love to play it before schoolyear starts  

[diggin.robat 0]

Cool! A Marienfelde LKW! The dirver´s cabin looks comfortable enough to have tea time there.

Once again I would like to draw attention to one particular page of the incredible Landships HP:

Landship - Drawings

cheers

diggin

[TheJackle 0]

Erm, should I re-post this thread with the 18 pages and 268 replies compressed onto one page? Just that this mini-mod seems to be the largest thing that is happening on flashpoint at the moment, with all the developments sprawling across the forum.

[TheJackle 0]

This is the new-post that i'm intending to post in a new thread. I'm afraid that I had to compile the stuff quickly(hence the crap grammar and spelling), but anythings better than what we have now.

WW1 Mini-mod

The WW1 mini-mod is a modification of Operation flashpoint to bring the Great War to the operation flashpoint world. The mod has been made by ProffT, with the help of Spad and other mod-makers, to make a simple, easy to use, WW1 modification which includes: Infantry, Armor, Artillery, Aircraft, Trucks, Gas and a ‘WW1 Island’. The mod has no campaigns or extensive missions in the Beta stage, but campaigns should be witnessed in the WW1 mini-mod. You should find all the appropriate information about the mod below acompinied by various pictures

Infantry

The WW1 mini-mod includes infantry units from all major combatants on the western and eastern fronts. The infantry units include machine gunners, riflemen and snipers to form a real repisentation of a WW1 infantry unit.

British tommies: http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/1944/ww1britib4.jpg

French infantry: http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/382/ww1frexh5.jpg

German infantry: http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1340/ww1gerea7.jpg

Austrian infantry: http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/747/ww1autug8.jpg

Russian infantry: http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2267/ww1rusrl3.jpg

USEF infantry: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7094/ww1usah7.jpg

USMC infantry: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2050/ww1usmc1uo7.jpg - USMC in a more ‘refined’ state: http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4982/ww1usmc2fq9.jpg

ANZMA infantry: http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2424/ww1anzma8.jpg

The mod also includes special infantry units.

Line infantry NCO: http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3777/ww1old1xe3.jpg

1914 "Chasseurs a pied : http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4743/ww1old2ue2.jpg

Stormtroopers:http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/444/ww1stormwk2.jpg

German flame-throwers: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1066/ww1flamelt8.jpg

All the infantry units have highly detailed gas-mask’s and the appropriated scripting to enable there use.

Infantry with Gas-masks

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2395/ww1gas1va1.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8618/ww1gas2uk4.jpg

Tanks

The mod also includes various tanks and armored vehicles which formed an integral part of WW1. The Tanks all have working armament and gun-positions, whilst having a maximum speed of roughly 8MPH-15MPH.

Vickers MKIV: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7352/pftkp0.jpg

Renault FT17: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3301/pft1mj0.jpg

A MK iv Tank: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9942/ww1tank3xj7.jpg

Captured http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/773/ww1tank4ml9.jpg

A7 tank: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1295/a71iy9.jpg

Renault FT 17 tanks, with and without camo: http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4344/ww1tank1rn7.jpg

French White Armored Cars, with and without camo :

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2896/ww1tank2ec9.jpg

Rolls Royce armored cars:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3172/rolls1914yi3.jpg

German daimler marienfelde truck (early version), and a German driver:

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9755/ww1truck3ks6.jpg

Stormtroopers and A7s:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2475/ww1tank5yr4.jpg

Tommies and Renaults with Rolls Royce armored cars:

http://imageshack-france.com/out.php/i140058_WW1tank6.jpg

Tank uniforms ( British):

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5633/ww1crew1ah1.jpg

Trucks

The Mod also includes various trucks and bycles which where used away from the front line during the great war.

Renault cv 60 truck: http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/8141/ww1truck1ue8.jpg

Various vehicles, the Renault CV 60 for refueling, a standard bicycle for all sides and a motorbike for the West side: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8660/ww1truck2sq7.jpg

Airplanes

The modification includes various air units and modeled pilots.

Neuport 11: http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7038/nieuper5.jpg

Dr.1:http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2443/ww1crew3uz9.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1579/ww1crew2ap6.jpg

Artillery

The modification includes the major artily pieces used throughout WW1. The artillery shells are capiple of firing gas-shells and implementing bombardments.

French 75mm gun: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2835/ww1art1ow8.jpg

British 18 pounder gun: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6244/ww1art2hg1.jpg

German FK96 gun: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/408/ww1art3si5.jpg

The different textures for various guns are also included: http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/830/ww1art4lx1.jpg

Scenery

The world war one island is a small island which has the appropriate opposing trench systems. The island also includes no-mans land which has a destroyed village situated in-between the two lines. There are also areas of forest, destroyed and undestroyed, along with various undestroyed villages. The Mod also has gun-emplacements and two ww1 aerodromes.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7857/ww1trenxf0.jpg

Gas

The modification also includes gas attacks and gas mask scripting. Every infantry unit has a gass-mask and is capable of being able to be effected by gas. When a player puts on a gas-mask, there view changes and is heavily restricted.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9371/ww1gas3wv1.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3143/ww1gas4xr7.jpg

[sudayev 27]

I`d love to hear this tune on intro or at least as a music delivered with mod.

Just listen, it`s a very relefective song about WWI sturggle and meaning of a human life.

Quote[/b] ]16 years old when I went to war,

To fight for a land fit for heroes,

God on my side,and a gun in my hand,

Counting my days down to zero,

And I marched and I fought and I bled

And I died & I never did get any older,

But I knew at the time, That a year in the line,

Is a long enough life for a soldier,

We all volunteered,

And we wrote down our names,

And we added two years to our ages,

Eager for life and ahead of the game,

Ready for history's pages,

And we fought and we brawled

And we whored 'til we stood,

Ten thousand shoulder to shoulder,

A thirst for the Hun,

We were food for the gun,and that's

What you are when you're soldiers,

I heard my friend cry,

And he sank to his knees,coughing blood

As he screamed for his mother

And I tell by his, side,

And that's how we died,

Clinging like kids to each other,

And I lay in the mud

And the guts and the blood,

And I wept as his body grew colder,

And I called for my mother

And she never came,

Though it wasn't my fault

And I wasn't to blame,

The day not half over

And ten thousand slain,and now

There's nobody remembers our names Ã

And that's how it is for a soldier.

[tankieboy 0]

Damb, I thought they were links to downloads not pictures!

[TheJackle 0]

Sorry, theirs an image limit . However, the 'new' topic would get 3-4 separate posts to enable all images to be displayed. Shall I post the new topic or just let this one remain?

N.B, I think Glory glory alleluia and/or silent night ( in English and in German) should be the sound track.

[Sepe 1]

Outro track: Green Fields of France. Any version, I prefer the Dropkick Murphys one. One of those songs that make big men cry.

[tankieboy 0]

My Boy Willy