Sahrani Life

[mr.g-c 6]

Summarizing this 5 hour game i just had on janas server with the new changes from TeRp (Terpentin)

I NEVER HAD SO MUCH FUN IN THIS MISSION, EVEN NOT AS I FIRST PLAYED IT!!!!!

This is just awesome!

It adds a bit of reality, immersion and fun into the game, i was missing and Me and Others already suggesting since our first suggestions here.

The car-chases and pursuits were better than in any movie! Just amazing, for example because air-support (from a cop in chopper) is now really needed because civs have now a VERY GOOD CHANCE to flee.

TeRp (Terpentin) already confirmed he will put in the following changes/aditions on the "Jana-Server version" (please Issetea and Fewo - work with him together! He does all those small changes which we find so important):

- Cops can manage "wanted" and "bounty" from any copcar

- Copcars get red and blue flashing lights

- New Siren 2.0 with two different tones

- Civs who are in jail will stay there even if they try to respawn, we hope so that they are then more frightened about jail before they do (big) crimes, and they do a bit more teamwork/fun by asking teammates to free them from jail(chopper?) or even outbreak from it.

Thank you again TeRp (Terpentin), you rally made a good mission much much better with these small changes...

Regards, Christian

[mr.g-c 6]

If you need a siren sound file let me know. I work around the dam things at work. I can just record the dif types right from the car.

Yes, if you can do better one than the ones i posted.... but both that different tones/hauls. They must sound good without brakes when playing endless after each other...

Quote[/b] ]Any chance you have a download link for the version with the sirens and the marker fix?

Also whats the chance of moving the civi spawn away from the bank? 20ft away sucks. Also gun shop is way to close to bank. Ive seen games start with the bank being held up within 40 seconds.

Will be changed/is already changed in 1.1

Regards, Christian

[sparks50 0]

Played a bit on janas server now, and the marker edits and sirens really adds a lot to realism and playability, this should be added to 1.1!

[mr burns 131]

Just had a 4 hour session too and it was fun, at least until i was kicked for no reason. That sucked ... oh well

[Dwarden 1124]

SWAT units as 'level-up' from regular police path

[mant3z 1]

SWAT units as 'level-up' from regular police path

oh... swat team, sweet

Now we just need a police van and patrol car

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[falseprophet 0]

if you run sahrani life on your server, you better chance the variable name of the money...

i just saw that ***** released a tool which allows you to get 1 million of cash (a cheat tool )

[brit~XR 0]

XR - Sahrani Life Server back online for all you guys that played on it :P

I also ip banned 2 players who i detected runing this script damage player== 0.123) then {player setdammage 0;disableuserinput true} which is the lock_player.sas from super cheat pack which locks up players and crashes most other players from game

damage player== 0.123) then {player setdammage 0;disableuserinput true}U0ãù{0Matthew MartinFace28Nonebrianøh?ü!]YXG[Ô**Log Record**i|172.142.241.???

= acc(172.142.241.???:2304,'Simon',2066248826,2066248826)

1119109: 7565.187: 20:08:10 Simon uses modified data file - CA;@FFAMM;DBE1;@DM7;@NWD_TankFCS

1119111: 7565.188: 20:08:10 Player Simon connecting.

1119336: 7581.180: 20:08:26 Player Simon connected (id=3559431).

1163218: 11117.476: 21:07:22 Player Simon disconnected

damage player== 0.123) then {player setdammage 0;disableuserinput true}U0ûã0William WrightFace14Nonerobertf?!-YXGû^**Log Record**Ã24.78.239.??

cc(24.78.239.??:2304,'Goatus',446426575,446426575)

290617: 25081.727: 1:23:37 Goatus uses modified data file - CA;DBE1;@ArmAEffects;FDF

290618: 25081.729: 1:23:37 Player Goatus connecting.

290640: 25085.006: 1:23:40 Player Goatus connected (id=3110150

[brit~XR 0]

Quote[/b] ]and it allows  the civ some strategy.  plus car chases are good because civs now have the chance to give the cops the slip outdriving.

What good is that on your server when u start to kick everyone who runs away from the police when you say stop! but some players who up to no good dont wanna stop for police and run. And thats when you kick them for not listening to your police orders!

[ModaFlanker 0]

BUG REPORT in 1.02-- Checking if this is fixed in 1.10 yet?

The weapons crates in the Cop Base apparently have a limit to how much they can hold.

What happens is that when the ammo truck keeps coming, ammo is dropped all around the cop base when it overflows those crates.

An Admin thought that a cheater was messing with the Cop base, but I've seen this happen on many different servers, which is why I figure its the ammo truck overflowing the crates.

Issetea and Fewo-- have you made any changes for this in 1.10?

[ModaFlanker 0]

If anyone here isn't aware of the "Stanford Prison Experiment", you should Google it.

Volunteers played the role of prisoners and guards...

As it happened, some of the guards turned EXTREMELY sadistic.

Sahrani life appears to be repeating the results of that experiment... I've seen some people turn into absolute tyrants...

I shouldn't be surprised, but... I am when I see it in action. Wow.

[sparks50 0]

More bugreporting:

You can easely glitch out of the prison by running towards the corners, this should be a easy fix.

"finding the barrel" mission seems almost impossible, i have searched every centimeter of the workerforrest, but didnt find anything. Finding wounded worker/blackhawk is easy but this seems alot harder.

The cops should have more things to do, how about driving around a VIP ai(sahrani king?) to different locations around the map, for every location the VIP is droven to, all cops each gets 1k reward. If a civ manages to kill the VIP the civ is given 100k and becomes wanted. In that case all cops will each loose 10k. the cops must escort the king with maybe several police cars for increased safety.

This way cops would have something to do when things are more calm. This does not in any way affect the mayor election etc. If the cops are too busy with criminal civs, they can just leave the king in the cop base.

[mr burns 131]

Adding more tasks to the groups is a good idea.

Atm it seems like the majority of players try to make money as fast as possible and then joining terror - hence driving the cops insane and making them ruthless tyrants

[McBoeInact 0]

Quote[/b] ]The weapons crates in the Cop Base apparently have a limit to how much they can hold.

What happens is that when the ammo truck keeps coming, ammo is dropped all around the cop base when it overflows those crates.

positive on this? as its happened on my server too BUT at the same time i found all the ammo also around the castle where there is no ammo crates...

Quote[/b] ]You can easely glitch out of the prison by running towards the corners, this should be a easy fix.

damn i thought that was a glitch, i had a player on my server swear that there was a hole in the fence ...

Quote[/b] ]Atm it seems like the majority of players try to make money as fast as possible and then joining terror

yup

[icewindo 29]

Well I dont think this is a glitch, how else should you escape from prison? There's a message for it and there would have been no need for it if that hole-running-jumping method would be exploiting.

But ok, sb. might use a mh6 and get the prisoner out of there...

[Jack-UK 0]

rargh i need to get back on Jana's server soon =( just aint got the time at the moment :'(

[McBoeInact 0]

using terps latest jana playground edit with changes:

bank moved

any cop that uses a roadblock prints so on screen

removed civ insurance (to keep legal civs helping cops, right now its a crap "hold on ill get insurance, ok terrorism away" bull)

handgun shop is now near sniper rile shop (ie out of bagango)

some buildings wreck proof (civ spawn building)

marker refresh now 2 or 3 seconds

all vehicles will disappear after being empty for 15 mins to reduce map clutter

[Striyzh 0]

Just had a 4 hour session too and it was fun, at least until i was kicked for no reason. That sucked ... oh well

You weren't playing on Jana's server were you?

I don't usually 'BAWWW' about server admins, but Jana and 5th's are some of the worst I've ever had to deal with.

A shame, because both are some of the best SahraniLife servers.

[mr burns 131]

It´s their servers and you aren´t forced to play on them - they can do whatever they want and you have no right to complain about it.

Eat it, or beat it. (can one say it like that? my engrish sucks today )

[ModaFlanker 0]

Quote[/b] ]The weapons crates in the Cop Base apparently have a limit to how much they can hold.

What happens is that when the ammo truck keeps coming, ammo is dropped all around the cop base when it overflows those crates.

positive on this? as its happened on my server too BUT at the same time i found all the ammo also around the castle where there is no ammo crates...

Not 100% positive, but since I always see this as a cop on all servers I assume that must be the reason.

I'll play cop soon and watch the ammo ring around the cop base when the truck comes in... if it grows each time the truck arrives, then that should indicate that my presumption is right.

I'll get back to you all on this [but if any of you are able to find out before I do, post here].

[McBoeInact 0]

Quote[/b] ]It´s their servers and you aren´t forced to play on them - they can do whatever they want and you have no right to complain about it.

Eat it, or beat it. (can one say it like that? my engrish sucks today )

Quote[/b] ]Not 100% positive, but since I always see this as a cop on all servers I assume that must be the reason.

I'll play cop soon and watch the ammo ring around the cop base when the truck comes in... if it grows each time the truck arrives, then that should indicate that my presumption is right.

I'll get back to you all on this [but if any of you are able to find out before I do, post here].

thanks modaflanker!

[darkfenix100 0]

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Quote (Mr Burns @ Dec. 11 2007,01:55)

Just had a 4 hour session too and it was fun, at least until i was kicked for no reason. That sucked ... oh well  

You weren't playing on Jana's server were you?

I don't usually 'BAWWW' about server admins, but Jana and 5th's are some of the worst I've ever had to deal with.

A shame, because both are some of the best SahraniLife servers.

i agree with u havnt a problem with jana shes very friendly but she bans people to easy like yesterday she kicked poeple cuz they were "Noobs" and when tehy re-joined cuz they like her server they get banned i am myself am banned for raising the fact she wont have any regs left the ways she keeps going but yeah her server.

Dark Fenix

[McBoeInact 0]

prob with stuff like this u guys only ever see the kicks and happily miss the whys.

they werent banned for noobs, they were banned because i asked them to leave after a 6 hour game to let other players have a go, most left, others that didnt i told them why and kicked. they kept coming back giving abuse, so they banned.

but like i say before this topic is about the game not servers.

[darkfenix100 0]

back on subject love this mission and i love the updates jana and Terp keep makin shame i cant play them nomore

[Striyzh 0]

I understand completely that it's entirely up to the server owner to decide who gets to play on his/her server (After all, they are footing the bill). If I felt compelled to do so, there are programs which would allow someone to circumvent a ban, however although I disagree with Jana's choice to ban me, she pays the bills, and I won't join her server if she doesn't want me to (Although I am quite disappointed that I will no longer be able to play the JT updates).

With that said, I don't think criticism of what could be perceived as abusive admin behavior is out of bounds at all. The intended purpose is not to whine to the admin, rather to warn other players of abnormal behavior, and possibly convince them to avoid certain servers, thus avoiding a bad experience. This is especially important considering there are so few active SahraniLife servers.

I was banned from Jana's for inquiring as to why a mission was restarted (Causing me to lose about 2 hours worth of work). Upon asking whether to join the cop or civ team I was told by Jana "Here, I'll make the decision easy for you", and promptly banned without explanation.

On topic:

I'm delighted to hear that civmarkers will be removed outside of towns. However, I'm not too enthusiastic about the "Civmarkers within 50m of cop". I think the game would be well balanced without this feature, while still allowing civs to feasibly escape and become fugitives. Also, forgive me is this has been mentioned already, but is it possible to make spy cameras static (As in a security camera) rather than following players?