Coordinated Military Gas Testing @ my supermarket

[Joseph Troska 0]

On January 8th, 2007, the Woolstores Shopping Complex in Fremantle, Western Australia, encountered a strange gas leak. Within minutes of it being reported, the Fire & Emergency Services Authority (FESA) had shut down half of Fremantle, many roads going in/out of the port town and also stopping buses from leaving the city for up to an hour. Hours later, FESA reported they had found NO trace of any toxin (even with their sophisticated air sampling equipment), the TV news reported it was (likely) pepper spray and the following day the newspaper contradicted both of these and said it was refrigerant gas (ammonia for industrial refrigeration - of which the symptoms were not consistant, as ammonia causes eye irritation, as does pepperspray - and this was not reported by victims). Even to this day the victims (mostly staff and customers of the Coles Supermarket) have not been told what they ingested and made them sick for up to a week - not by FESA nor medical personnel.

What makes this even stranger is that on this * SAME DAY * gas leaks were reported around the globe - and each case was similar - the symptoms (NYC/NJ & Fremantle), the fact Federal Emergency Services were put to work in each case evacuating and shutting down suburbs/towns, and the fact the gas was not identifiable.

Monday, January 8th 2007 - these are the media releases as they happened

1. Monday, 8th January - Gas 'leak' in Coles Supermarket Fremantle, Western Australia causing sickness (difficulty breathing, coughing and nausea), evacuations and transport disruptions out of port city... both chemical and source <unknown> even after rigorous testing by chemical experts and FESA. FESA media liaison officer Mike Klenner said “We didn’t find anything, we didn’t know what the problem was – the readings on our detection equipment amounted to zero,†Mr Klenner said. It was circulated very efficiently, although "we don't know what sort at this stage, or the actual means by which it circulated throughout the store," a police spokesman said.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21...73-2761,00.html

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21029601-2,00.html

2. Monday 8th January, New York - "Authorities were investigating the source of a mysterious gas-like odor Monday that wafted over Manhattan and parts of New Jersey and led to some building evacuations and mass transit disruptions." Neither gas nor source identified. "Twelve people were taken by ambulance to New York hospitals by emergency workers responding to calls from people complaining of upset stomachs, dizziness or difficulty breathing", a Fire Department spokesman said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070108/ap_on_re_us/nyc_gas_odor

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/janua...80107_b_gas.htm

3. Monday 8th January, "AUSTIN, Texas -- Police shut down 10 blocks of businesses in the heart of the downtown early Monday after dozens of birds were found dead in the streets, but officials said preliminary tests showed no dangerous chemicals in the air." A number of police officers reported falling victim to sickness.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/st...d37f4d3&k=37749

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/united...of_hysteria.htm

4.Thousands of birds have fallen from the sky in Esperance, south of Perth Western Australia, cause: unknown

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/janua...100107Birds.htm

5. Monday 8th January, London - Services on the Hammersmith and City tube line has been partly suspended due to a gas leak. Hammersmith underground station, which is on the Hammersmith and City line, has been closed since 1540 GMT.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england...don/6242871.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/englan...don/6242871.stm

6. Monday 8th January, Blue Springs, Missouri... Authorities evacuated several homes and a day-care center near downtown Blue Springs after a gas leak sent strong odors through the neighborhood.

http://www.topix.net/content/kri/092450163...816522516694019

7. Monday, 8th January, Sugar Land, Texas - " Sugar Land’s emergency response team was put to the test Monday after a chemical cloud was released over the area."

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/kho...e.22bccdf8.html

8. Tuesday, 9th January -- NEXT DAY... Longmont, Colorado -

About 40 dead birds littered a short stretch of U.S. Highway 287 south of the city Tuesday. Boulder County health officials and the Colorado Division of Wildlife were still coordinating efforts late afternoon to investigate the site, just south Mooring Road.

http://www.longmontfyi.com/region-story.asp?ID=14007

9. January 5 onwards -

DEC Nature Protection Branch acting manager Paul Connolly said the department had received a new report of at least 200 dead swallows in Narembeen, about 240km east of Perth and 380km from Esperance.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/New-re...8709808313.html

Department of Environment and Conservation nature protection manager David Mell said birds, mostly ring-necked parrots, had been found in clusters of up to 200 at Yealering, Kellerberrin, Cunderdin, Kulin and Kukerin. He did not think the deaths were related to the earlier incidents, blaming the latest fatalities on hot weather and wind.

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?Men...ContentID=20927

**TESTS FAIL TO DETECT BIRD DEATHS CAUSE - Tissue samples have failed to uncover what caused the death of thousands of birds in the Esperance region in southern Western Australia.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/items/200702/1838900.htm?wa

The later stated official line claiming lead matter wafting in from the Esperance port was responsible for killing the thousands of birds in that town is absolute nonsense. Why were no people showing significant signs of lead ingestion? What about the many dead birds throughout the wheatbelt and inner south west - hundreds of kilometers away - hot weather and wind? This video has some interesting information regarding esperance and the bird deaths: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBq97gYB7xo

.. what are the odds of all of this happening in such a simultaneous manner?

* * * AS A SIDE NOTE:

At the time of the gassing at Coles Fremantle, the store was undergoing a refit from BROAD Construction Company. Police commented they were puzzled as to how the gas/toxin was so efficiently circulated. This would mean that somehow it was fed into the air conditioning system of the entire shopping complex. During the Coles Supermarket refit there were workmen in the roof constantly, and there may have been access ways left open/accessible to the wider complex's air ducts. This was never a line of investigation for the police despite their mystefied comments. What is definitely interesting is that BROAD Construction have clear ties to the Military Industrial Complex, as they are building a submarine maintenance facility for the Australian Navy. http://www.broad.com.au/default.aspx?ContentID=88&menuid=29

Regardless, victims are still waiting on a definitive explanation as to what made them so sick for so long, but it does not look as though they will get one.

Was this some kind of co-ordinated gas testing by authorities.... on a global scale?

....the odds of (same day, same modus operandi) coincidence...

Many of the incidents were limited to local news sources of the respecting areas, so finding meant some serious googling.

"A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979. Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told."

from

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/st...,688089,00.html

Declassified documents have shown that in the past the US government has a history of conducting chemical and biological agent tests on an unwitting population. Project SHAD involved the use of live toxins and chemical poisons on American servicemen on American soil, spraying clouds of bacteria over San Francisco, releasing toxic gases into the New York subway, holding open-air biological and chemical weapons tests in at least four states in the 1960s.

from http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/te...light_poles.htm

On a personal note, within hours of the 'gas leak' at Coles Supermarket Fremantle in West Australia, and the realization that things weren't adding up, I said that this story would be put away. Sure enough, it was. The following day The West Australian (W.A.'s only major state newspaper) gave the story a tiny few lines on the 4-5th page, giving information completely contradicting other media, FESA, police and even Coles management - even though it made 1st story TV news headlines on every station the night before. I've worked at that Coles in a part time capacity for 10 years and know a lot of the victims very well... from their experiences, lack of answers and from reading the information I collated, they agree something is definitely up.

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

Just another conspiracy.

I don't think 15 cases of gas-leaks or maybe even some natural occurance is unlike in one day worldwide.

[shinRaiden 0]

This is why health officials caution you not to sniff the fumes, it damages brain cells and turns you into a paranoid left-wing sky-is-falling rumor-monger.

[Joseph Troska 0]

and turns you into a paranoid left-wing sky-is-falling rumor-monger.

there's nothing left/right or political about it... people at my work whom I know very well were made very sick. A handful of victims also encounter cluster headaches to this day since the incident.

No one can tell them what they ingested nor where it came from.

No Federal Authorities nor medical personnel have any information.

The victims are still seeking answers for various reasons.

One victim told me a member of BROAD construction (remember the guys with a military contract) came down to her department and told the staff "the store manager will call an evacuation in 5 minutes, we've had a leak of ammonia".

The possibility of it being ammonia are 0. nil.

- Symptoms not consistent with ammonia poisoning

i) no eye irritation reported

ii) no sweat gland center (groin, armpit etc) irritation reported.

- No trace of ammonia on military grade air sampling kits

- toxin was spread through central air-con system, not localized as an ammonia leak would be

- No report of tell tale ammonia smell "I know what ammonia smells like, and this wasn't ammonia." - anon victim

So who told the BROAD Construction worker about the "leak"? - and why didn't the police or FESA get told about this, as they were mystefied as to what it might be.

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

Hmm, let me think...

Hey, i've come up with an answer!

Maybe they don't know what caused it!?

Gases can be very hard to trace. Especially if tracing equipment isn't there until a couple hours after exposure, the gas can be completely gone - also from your body. Effects to the body can substain a long time, though - even though the gas is gone.

[Joseph Troska 0]

Hey, i've come up with an answer!

Maybe they don't know what caused it!?

Gases can be very hard to trace. Especially if tracing equipment isn't there until a couple hours after exposure, the gas can be completely gone

Yes. You are right! They (Federal Authorities) don't know what caused it. Just like the mystery gas which swept over Manhattan Island and New Jersey on the same day, eliciting the same symptoms... it was never identified.

As far as the supermarket in Western Australia is concerned, the FESA guys where there within 15 minutes according to staff I spoke to, also they are based literally 100m down the road. Their air sampling kits are military grade, according to them. Traces of the toxin should have been present.

[Journeyman 0]

Thank you Joseph Troska for your efforts in presenting those news items and past articles. I at least took the time to read some of them and have sympathy for your opinion. The reason that there will be no further investigations or that any organisation global or local will ever get discovered for secret trails is not so much that the secrecy laws are so well enforced as much as it is the general scepticism of most people to ever believe that this sort of thing could ever possibly happen in ‘our’ time! The last few posters are sentiment to this!

It is the reason why our countries have such things as 'official secrets acts' in the first place. It doesn't surprise me at all to learn of your findings. It will as you say however get brushed under the carpet like all the others only to emerge 50 years down the road to the annoyance of our angry children! History will just keep repeating itself over and over, and those who will rather say 'poppycock' to it all then take a look at history! OH! But it never happens in 'our' time does it?

This one could of course just be one big natural coincidence of some unexplained natural phenomena, and that is what is probably best for us to all believe! Most people don't believe in UFO's either, even those that have seen them themselves! How could anything that we cannot explain or be willing to accept possibly exist?!!

That is just the way things are! Don't come in here with any fancy stories or even fancier explanations for them and expect an easy ride!!

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

Thank you Joseph Troska for your efforts in presenting those news items and past articles. I at least took the time to read some of them and have sympathy for your opinion. The reason that there will be no further investigations or that any organisation global or local will ever get discovered for secret trails is not so much that the secrecy laws are so well enforced as much as it is the general scepticism of most people to ever believe that this sort of thing could ever possibly happen in ‘our’ time! The last few posters are sentiment to this!

It is the reason why our countries have such things as 'official secrets acts' in the first place. It doesn't surprise me at all to learn of your findings. It will as you say however get brushed under the carpet like all the others only to emerge 50 years down the road to the annoyance of our angry children! History will just keep repeating itself over and over, and those who will rather say 'poppycock' to it all then take a look at history! OH! But it never happens in 'our' time does it?

This one could of course just be one big natural coincidence of some unexplained natural phenomena, and that is what is probably best for us to all believe! Most people don't believe in UFO's either, even those that have seen them themselves! How could anything that we cannot explain or be willing to accept possibly exist?!!

That is just the way things are! Don't come in here with any fancy stories or even fancier explanations for them and expect an easy ride!!

It is not so much, that we don't think it wont happen in 'our' time, I just think that IF it happend, i'm not naive enough to think that this thread will do anything about it .

Atleast I live in a country where I trust the government not to make any public tests on me without my knowledge. If you guys don't do it, I sugest you leave from your current habitat - I know I would.

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

Btw.

This posts looks a 'bit' like this 6 months old thread

http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=32452

Edit, and this:

http://www.911oz.com/forum....d1594d5

Lol, is that you spamming the world wide web for a bit of conspiracy fame?

rofl!

Oh, and this might be your explanation (found in one of ya threads):

Hey Lin.

This post slipped under my radar, thanks for being so comprehensive.

Perhaps another angle you could look at this, are the variety of different food preservation techniques used in transportation of food. In particular: the use of methyl bromide as a preservative for transportation for the mass foods found in supermarkets.

I met someone a while back who worked for a chemical company, who specialises in food transportation and preservation. Some of the methods he described sounded completely alien to me; the most relevant is the use of methyl bromide gas.

Those of you that know a bit of chemistry would be thinking now, methyl bromide and food? This guy is crazy. Bromide, a halogen is a strong irritant and oxidiser: very toxic.

But it is a little known secret that Methyl bromide fumigation is used as a preservative from fresh fruit to preserved meats to prevent spoilage. I know for a fact its used in Australia, according to my chemical engineer guy above. I could get you some emails from a university if you want to investigate this lead.

Just a thought.

Check out this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Methyl-Bromide-Issue-C-Bell/dp/0471955213

Perhaps you should investigate some of the Australian companies that provide the infrastructure, and chemicals to transportation companies in regards to safety procedures etc.

I think just like the banking system, if people knew what goes behind their food there would be a revolution before tomorrow! Perhaps why its kept quiet. Just investigate what goes into your meat...But thats offtopic.

(PS if it was ammonia, you could TELL truuust me. No reason to keep large volumes of ammonia in a supermarket . Stupid excuse).

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[Joseph Troska 0]

Yes, I am Lin Kuei. I simply wanted to see what people in the gamer community thought of it, rather than those already aware of malfeasant acts performed by the elite.

You could see it as spam, i suppose, but this incident is so close to home for me, and eats away at me... so i guess that's why I can't let it go.

[Journeyman 0]

So long as Placebo doesn’t see it as ‘Spam’ then you’ll be just fine! Otherwise it will receive a very special blessing!  

Seriously though the methyl bromide explanation that Espectro hastily dug up doesn’t explain that much of this story. It might be somewhat relevant in the supermarket incidents but nowhere else. It also fails to explain why the air samplers did not detect it.

Hmmm! Sounds familiar; a frightening scenario hastily debunked by a petrified and disbelieving populous! Don’t bother to investigate it fully, just find a halfhearted explanation that vaguely explains part of a few incidents then quickly move on!  

[Second 0]

I could imagine that this could be true. And i can imagine that it wouldn't be true... I can't tell which one.

I would be cheered to hear about terroristic western regimes, which leaders should be put to jail and have executed, after doing horrible humantests with gas to their people. But i doupt that would happen.

Well anyway. If there's something fishy, it will not come out in 50 or so years. Maybe it can be forced to come out earlier, but that would be something like 1 out 1000 000 odds?

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

So long as Placebo doesn’t see it as ‘Spam’ then you’ll be just fine! Otherwise it will receive a very special blessing!

Seriously though the methyl bromide explanation that Espectro hastily dug up doesn’t explain that much of this story. It might be somewhat relevant in the supermarket incidents but nowhere else. It also fails to explain why the air samplers did not detect it.

Hmmm! Sounds familiar; a frightening scenario hastily debunked by a petrified and disbelieving populous! Don’t bother to investigate it fully, just find a halfhearted explanation that vaguely explains part of a few incidents then quickly move on!

Well, the problem with methyl bromide (bromomethane) is, that if only exposed slightly an hour or so, you cannot detect in a human body wether or not it was exposed to it. If the persons were affected over a longer period of time, it could be detected using urine sample scanning for bromid (which bromomethane breaks down into at first). But I doubt any such samples were taking from the victims, as that isn't normal procedure - especially if they thought it was something else at first.

I, for obvious reasons, cannot tell you which scanning methods were used at that super market (or any other of those areas), but a very known method, is called the VOST Field analysis (which as the name implies, is a test outside the laboratory).

(http://www.p2pays.org/ref%5C07/06219.pdf)

Although this test is a standard test (although with several variances), it has shown that, among other similar gases, methyl bromide is not always detected in air using this method. While this COULD explain why it wasn't detected at the supermarket, it doesn't explain why several gas leaks were present (as you stated).

It is indeed unacceptable that the victims haven't gotten any information on the leak, which is also why we are sitting here guessing, but I am not convinced at all that some conspiracy is present. I do fully understand why this story fills allot on your mind, Troska - that is natural. But seriously - 9 (unexplainable) gas leaks on a global scale... That is not that uncommon as you might think, and as earlier stated - it can simply be a mix between human made gas leaks and natures gas leaks (which also happens regularly). It isn't that uncomming seeing dead birds.

What I am trying to say is, that if you really want to dig up 8 cases of gas-leaks in a day searching the worlds local newspapers - it's not that hard to find, and certainly not that puzzling. I am pretty sure the responsible agencies in your region could have handled the things better. But incompetence doesn't equal conspiracy

Red Kite, it's not that I don't wanna investigate it fully, it's just that i'm convinced that there is nothing more than bad management in this, and therefor not worth the time and effort you COULD put into this. I rather want to concentrate on REAL issues such as global warming - and not on conspiracies.

Mr. Troska, I hope you will be able to get this thing outa ya head, as it probably fills allot on ya mind.

[Joseph Troska 0]

Hmmm! Sounds familiar; a frightening scenario hastily debunked by a petrified and disbelieving populous! Don’t bother to investigate it fully, just find a halfhearted explanation that vaguely explains part of a few incidents then quickly move on!

yes, it is sad that we have been conditioned to dismiss any incident of such proportions as a mere 'conspiracy theory'.

the word conspiracy just means any incident where two or more individuals have conspired together, but it is a word i stay away from because it has been abused for obvious reasons by mainstream popular culture.

It is by design.

It's these bullshit "it's just a conspiracy" assumptions we are conditioned to make which allow the elites to get away with crimes such as false flag terror attacks.

Please watch: Loose Change 2nd Edition recut

http://video.google.com.au/videopl....index=0

Terrorstorm: history of government sponsored terrorism

http://video.google.com.au/videopl....index=0

And Zeitgeist, which examines Religion, 9.11 and the international banking cartels as institutionalised methods of control.

http://video.google.com.au/videopl....index=0

This past september 11, (2007) i flew from western australia to New York City (26 hour flight! ) to be part of the 9/11 Truth events there. I went partly because I am disgusted at the blatantness of the lies surrounding what we were told about 9.11 and also because I am an admin on the official Loose Change forums. Here is a pic of me at Ground Zero on 9/11/07. I'm the guy on the far left, the guy second from right is Dylan Avery, the creator of the documentary Loose Change. There were many hundreds of people there rallying for the truth... all disgusted at the lies we were all told.

see...? we can all make a difference.

[Journeyman 0]

Red Kite, it's not that I don't wanna investigate it fully, it's just that i'm convinced that there is nothing more than bad management in this, and therefor not worth the time and effort you COULD put into this. I rather want to concentrate on REAL issues such as global warming - and not on conspiracies.

I would tend to agree that this set of incidents has as much chance of being ‘innocent’ as it does malicious. However, I tend to veer on the side of suspicion in any circumstance such as this. Maybe I’ve just been around a bit longer than you and know some of the ways of past government activities. Oh and I’m talking western governments here!

Those of us who think that our leaders would never deceive us and always have our best interests at heart have been woefully misinformed! It could well be that Denmark has a totally different set of priorities; Denmark is not a country I know that much about. The inner workings of the UK and the US leaders though are a source of uneasy concern for many. I’ve been reading the snippets of a book recently that was pushed under my nose a while back called Living In A Fascist Country and it has some hair raising truths about how we are all being ‘controlled’ rather than catered for! The book could well be labelled as that of a sensationalist, but I cannot but sympathise and support most of his views.

We live in a ‘democracy’ but how much democratic rights do we really have? From personal experience as much as from reading any books I would say ‘not that much!’  

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

It is a whole other discussion, but I feel sorry for you...

[shinRaiden 0]

While you're at it, how about alerting everyone to the dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide?

The real fact is, there are millions of eyewitnesses all testifying that your wishful thinking is all smoke and mirrors. You either are forced into a nihilistic anti-creationist viewpoint insisting on the inherent evil of all humanity - which ironically then gives license to the very behavior you purport to be outraged by, or remain conflicted by *gasp* REALITY staring you in the face.

Here's the point. As your premise you insist that the so-called Bush regime is evil incarnate, in order to rationally condemn what you are politically opposed to. However, in order to prove that point, requires you to make leaps of logic well in excess of the misguided slander and ridicule aimed at creationists, to the point of becoming psychologically impairing.

On the other hand, you have to assume that the same incrediblely organized and functioning globally conspiratorial administration is the woefully incompetent and intellectually deficient ever to exist in the history of the world. Proving that point would also require admitting to the futility of ever winning over the apathetic zombie populace which facilitated said course of world history.

So finding yourself between the proverbial rock and hard place of incredulous and illogical, you have chosen the middle course of irrational and shake your fist at the heavens insisting that the sun does not shine at high noon.

I prefer to maintain a belief in the inherent goodness of humanity, though clouded at times by false indoctrination from those who wish afflict others with their own personal self-induced misery. Whether you chose to pursue an optimistic course of life is up to you, it's a nice sunny day out today.

[Journeyman 0]

I prefer to maintain a belief in the inherent goodness of humanity, though clouded at times by false indoctrination from those who wish afflict others with their own personal self-induced misery. Whether you chose to pursue an optimistic course of life is up to you, it's a nice sunny day out today.

It is indeed a nice sunny day today and I will be out to enjoy it shortly, unlike some that are forever stuck indoors! Wow did my last post really sound that depressing!? ... LOL!

I was merely getting the point across about political realities not that I am forever depressed by them! FFS I live a fulfilling and enjoyable life, I make my own way through it and get out of it what I want, always have, always will. I certainly don't need any pity or guidance from my academic juniors!!  

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

I prefer to maintain a belief in the inherent goodness of humanity, though clouded at times by false indoctrination from those who wish afflict others with their own personal self-induced misery. Whether you chose to pursue an optimistic course of life is up to you, it's a nice sunny day out today.

It is indeed a nice sunny day today and I will be out to enjoy it shortly, unlike some that are forever stuck indoors! Wow did my last post really sound that depressing!? ... LOL!

I was merely getting the point across about political realities not that I am forever depressed by them! FFS I live a fulfilling and enjoyable life, I make my own way through it and get out of it what I want, always have, always will. I certainly don't need any pity or guidance from my academic juniors!!

You sure need it at times, though

[TheReddog 0]

The SAUCER PEOPLE in conjunction with the REVERSE VAMPIRES are forcing our parents to go to bed earlier and earlier in a FIENDSIH PLOT to eliminate the meal of dinner.

WE'RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE!!!

[-Snafu- 79]

The SAUCER PEOPLE in conjunction with the REVERSE VAMPIRES are forcing our parents to go to bed earlier and earlier in a FIENDSIH PLOT to eliminate the meal of dinner.

WE'RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE!!!

That was brilliant! Cheered me right up!