Evoltion3.0x alpha

[Rocco 0]

Evolution3.0x alpha

Here it comes, Evolution3.0x XAM1.3 edit with some XAM feature like:

* UH60 transport

* A10 CB

* Stryker Command Vehicle

Also includes:

* Civilians

* RHS Hind helicopter

* RHS OPFOR Weapons

Issues:

* Newly edited vehicles can be used by everyone (no ranking system)

* OPFOR engineers can´t lay mines

* BLUFOR engineers can´t detect mines

Addons needed:

* RHS Hind: http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=1099

* RHS OPFOR Weapons: RHS Weapons

WARNING: This is only an alpha version, we still need alot of help understanding all those great Evo scripts, especially the ranking/vehicle system.

All credits belong to Kiljoy, XAM makers for their great ArmA additions!

[Kenbow 0]

Did you specifically get permission from KilJoy to alter his work?

[miller 49]

@[Rocco]

Thanks,

but the link for RHS OPFOR Weapons for OFP

[th3flyboy 0]

hey rocco, its flyboy from ks, mind if i help you work on this, ive been coming up with ideas to add to evo and do something like this for a while now, i think i could contribute some ideas, gimme a shout out on ts with your reply.

[Rocco 0]

Quote[/b] ]@[Rocco]

Thanks,

but the link for RHS OPFOR Weapons for OFP

fixed sorry mate

Quote[/b] ]

hey rocco, its flyboy from ks, mind if i help you work on this, ive been coming up with ideas to add to evo and do something like this for a while now, i think i could contribute some ideas, gimme a shout out on ts with your reply.

Heya, nice to see u here, i currently try to learn about scripting and stuff in arma, im going to make a post on our forums to collect some ideas and hopefully get help editing the map further.

[Adam192 0]

Did you specifically get permission from KilJoy to alter his work?

I would like to know as well.

[Kenbow 0]

I hate to be a stickler for the little things, but since you passed up my post without answering it, but answered the two posts after me, i will politely ask again....

Did you get permission from KilJoy to edit his mission?

From a line in the first post that says,

Quote[/b] ]Newly edited vehicles can be used by everyone (no ranking system)

, I am going to assume the answer is "no," until I get confirmation.

PS: Don't get me wrong. I love the idea of a XAM version for Evolution. I would just like to make sure it is done through the proper channels (i.e. permission from creator) before I download it.

[ripper998 0]

I hate to be a stickler for the little things, but since you passed up my post without answering it, but answered the two posts after me, i will politely ask again....

Did you get permission from KilJoy to edit his mission?

From a line in the first post that says,

Quote[/b] ]Newly edited vehicles can be used by everyone (no ranking system)

, I am going to assume the answer is "no," until I get confirmation.

PS: Don't get me wrong.  I love the idea of a XAM version for Evolution.  I would just like to make sure it is done through the proper channels (i.e. permission from creator) before I download it.

Dude who cares. When you create a mission in any game, you open yourselves up to people editting it or changing it. If he didnt think this would happen, then only release it on a ArmA server you own. This whole "we have to get permission first before you change it" is stupid.

[Rocco 0]

I hate to be a stickler for the little things, but since you passed up my post without answering it, but answered the two posts after me, i will politely ask again....

Did you get permission from KilJoy to edit his mission?

From a line in the first post that says,

Quote[/b] ]Newly edited vehicles can be used by everyone (no ranking system)

, I am going to assume the answer is "no," until I get confirmation.

PS: Don't get me wrong. I love the idea of a XAM version for Evolution. I would just like to make sure it is done through the proper channels (i.e. permission from creator) before I download it.

Dude who cares. When you create a mission in any game, you open yourselves up to people editting it or changing it. If he didnt think this would happen, then only release it on a ArmA server you own. This whole "we have to get permission first before you change it" is stupid.

agree, kiljoy and the XAM dudes get all the credit, im not going to sell my edited map lol and in kiljoys original post there is no sign that he doesnt allow people to edit his work. and btw, they are alot of evo edits already.

but to answer ur question, i sent kiljoy 3 emails (first one 03.06.07) with no answer. i think he no longer plays or edits the game.

[DBO_ 0]

Quote[/b] ]agree, kiljoy and the XAM dudes get all the credit, im not going to sell my edited map lol and in kiljoys original post there is no sign that he doesnt allow people to edit his work. and btw, they are alot of evo edits already.

I think he mentioned in jerry hopper radio ,The thing that he does not like is people editing his work and naming it evolution 3a 3b 3c etc , because he wishes to reserve this naming policy for himself ,so that people can tell the original updates , which i think was a reasonable request .

[ripper998 0]

Quote[/b] ]agree, kiljoy and the XAM dudes get all the credit, im not going to sell my edited map lol and in kiljoys original post there is no sign that he doesnt allow people to edit his work. and btw, they are alot of evo edits already.

I think he mentioned in jerry hopper radio ,The thing that he does not like is people editing his work and naming it evolution 3a 3b 3c etc , because he wishes to reserve this naming policy for himself ,so that people can tell the original updates , which i think was a reasonable request .

wow, so he owns a name now?

[misinformed 0]

Kiljoy obviously put 100's of hours work into evolution, and for someone to swagger along without asking permission, make a few changes and stamp their name over it is quite frankly disgusting.

And that argument about it being in the public domain is just utter rubbish, being "its there so we have the right to do whatever the hell we want with it, screw the author and what he wants". Its pretty widely known he doesn't want other people editing his work, good on him for making some quite complex scripts to say the least.

(This isn't just about evolution its about any work created by someone)

And just to let you know how strongly i feel about this, im not even partial to Evolution, i don't play it.

[Rocco 0]

Kiljoy obviously put 100's of hours work into evolution, and for someone to swagger along without asking permission, make a few changes and stamp their name over it is quite frankly disgusting.

And that argument about it being in the public domain is just utter rubbish, being "its there so we have the right to do whatever the hell we want with it, screw the author and what he wants". Its pretty widely known he doesn't want other people editing his work, good on him for making some quite complex scripts to say the least.

(This isn't just about evolution its about any work created by someone)

And just to let you know how strongly i feel about this, im not even partial to Evolution, i don't play it.

wont answer such comments of such trolls...sorry. i asked for permissions moths ago, read the thread and got no answer. i also stated that all credits goes to kiljoy and XAM. seems like u are really misinformed.

[Mabes 0]

Kiljoy obviously put 100's of hours work into evolution, and for someone to swagger along without asking permission, make a few changes and stamp their name over it is quite frankly disgusting.

And that argument about it being in the public domain is just utter rubbish, being "its there so we have the right to do whatever the hell we want with it, screw the author and what he wants". Its pretty widely known he doesn't want other people editing his work, good on him for making some quite complex scripts to say the least.

I didn't see anywhere in the original post where he says that he created the map, he only added the XAM 1.3 features to it and subtract a few but still gave all the credit to KillJoy for the map (and the XAM team for the mod).

Guess your name fits...

[misinformed 0]

=- @ Aug. 08 2007,23:45)]

Kiljoy obviously put 100's of hours work into evolution, and for someone to swagger along without asking permission, make a few changes and stamp their name over it is quite frankly disgusting.

And that argument about it being in the public domain is just utter rubbish, being "its there so we have the right to do whatever the hell we want with it, screw the author and what he wants". Its pretty widely known he doesn't want other people editing his work, good on him for making some quite complex scripts to say the least.

(This isn't just about evolution its about any work created by someone)

And just to let you know how strongly i feel about this, im not even partial to Evolution, i don't play it.

wont answer such comments of such trolls...sorry. i asked for permissions moths ago, read the thread and got no answer. i also stated that all credits goes to kiljoy and XAM. seems like u are really misinformed.

Heh troll. Quite frankly mate you can label whatever derogatory comment on me that you want but the fact of the matter still remains. You asked for permission, you didn't get permission, you went ahead and did it anyway. You mightve well not even bothered asking permission in the first place if thats your attitude.

I have no doubt who's in the wrong here and its not just me who thinks so.

[Rocco 0]

=- @ Aug. 08 2007,23:45)]

Kiljoy obviously put 100's of hours work into evolution, and for someone to swagger along without asking permission, make a few changes and stamp their name over it is quite frankly disgusting.

And that argument about it being in the public domain is just utter rubbish, being "its there so we have the right to do whatever the hell we want with it, screw the author and what he wants". Its pretty widely known he doesn't want other people editing his work, good on him for making some quite complex scripts to say the least.

(This isn't just about evolution its about any work created by someone)

And just to let you know how strongly i feel about this, im not even partial to Evolution, i don't play it.

wont answer such comments of such trolls...sorry. i asked for permissions moths ago, read the thread and got no answer. i also stated that all credits goes to kiljoy and XAM. seems like u are really misinformed.

Heh troll. Quite frankly mate you can label whatever derogatory comment on me that you want but the fact of the matter still remains. You asked for permission, you didn't get permission, you went ahead and did it anyway. You mightve well not even bothered asking permission in the first place if thats your attitude.

I have no doubt who's in the wrong here and its not just me who thinks so.

so in ur opinion, we should just let evolution die when noone updates it?! by using kiljoys awesome map and editing it we make sure, that his work wont be forgotten, stop playing "the copyright policemen" now and go back to your singleplayer game.

[proxemo666 0]

Thanks Rocco for adding XAM to an evolution. I would do it myself but I have a hard time as it is scripting an AI controlled helicopter pickup

This whole asking for permission is a bunch of crap so long as he acknowledges that he did not take credit for those mods which he didn't. To ask permission is funny because it's not like its copyrighted or in legal writing besides, I am sure if we all take a look at your computer, you have pirated songs anyway.

Just give credit where credit is due and move on.

[manberries 0]

hmm you all make a good point but the fact that he no longer plays or updates the game is a wrench in the normal wheels i mean he could atleast respond and it leaves us in the dark about what to do with armas most popular map (well idk about that specifically but it seems to be to me) i dont see why he didnt release his work for complete editing by anyone who wanted to if he was done with it but yet he has his reasons id just like to know if he truly even knows about what is going on to have someone say no you cannot edit this and then do it anyone is one thing but to get no answer and to know hes never going to update it puts us in a gray area its obvious one of you leans towards the dont do it side and the other to the do so but in truth you have both stated your opinions and misinformed whether you are correct or not you cannot stop it so why continue to argue after you have stated what you needed 2 lets just leave it be if he wants to mod it no one can stop him how bout we leave this thread for those who beleive it should be modded and the people who think it shouldnt could just leave it alone because it wont get us anywhere but banned or a closed thread

[misinformed 0]

=- @ Aug. 09 2007,00:03)]

=- @ Aug. 08 2007,23:45)]

Kiljoy obviously put 100's of hours work into evolution, and for someone to swagger along without asking permission, make a few changes and stamp their name over it is quite frankly disgusting.

And that argument about it being in the public domain is just utter rubbish, being "its there so we have the right to do whatever the hell we want with it, screw the author and what he wants". Its pretty widely known he doesn't want other people editing his work, good on him for making some quite complex scripts to say the least.

(This isn't just about evolution its about any work created by someone)

And just to let you know how strongly i feel about this, im not even partial to Evolution, i don't play it.

wont answer such comments of such trolls...sorry. i asked for permissions moths ago, read the thread and got no answer. i also stated that all credits goes to kiljoy and XAM. seems like u are really misinformed.

Heh troll. Quite frankly mate you can label whatever derogatory comment on me that you want but the fact of the matter still remains. You asked for permission, you didn't get permission, you went ahead and did it anyway. You mightve well not even bothered asking permission in the first place if thats your attitude.

I have no doubt who's in the wrong here and its not just me who thinks so.

so in ur opinion, we should just let evolution die when noone updates it?! by using kiljoys awesome map and editing it we make sure, that his work wont be forgotten, stop playing "the copyright policemen" now and go back to your singleplayer game.

Throwing more insults around i see, its always nice to see your going after the real issue at the heart of the matter and not getting bogged down in anything petty like that.

Besides i don't think you have to worry about evolution dieing out or not getting played over time, i think only 80% of all servers are running it around the clock, might have something to do with it getting played. And that because Kiljoy has supposedly stop playing Arma that all of a sudden makes it ok to do whatever you want. Just to ruffle your feathers i know of plenty of famous dead artists that arent showing any interest in their work anymore, i think you should go down to the National Art Gallery and make a few changes.

Bit off the wall regarding evolution but you get my point. Also a bit too aggressive and personal for what may seem like such a trivial matter to some.

cíl.

[benxcore 0]

Its different when your the one getting ripped, and not the one ripping.

[Lt_Dan 0]

Nice work Rocco!!!!

ARMA should be about evolving the game, thus the reason for the editor.

The tools are there and you gave credit where due, in my opinion you're top notch.

I've been waiting for this for some time and can't wait for further releases.

[dr_eyeball 16]

You might want to get an admin to move this thread to "User Missions", since this is not a addon, it is just a mission that simply depends on an addon.

[swissrudeboy 0]

Good job Rocco, don't listen to that copyright crap. There's always someone that has to complain about something to get noticed.

[DBO_ 0]

Quote[/b] ]agree, kiljoy and the XAM dudes get all the credit, im not going to sell my edited map lol and in kiljoys original post there is no sign that he doesnt allow people to edit his work. and btw, they are alot of evo edits already.

I think he mentioned in jerry hopper radio ,The thing that he does not like is people editing his work and naming it evolution 3a 3b 3c etc , because he wishes to reserve this naming policy for himself ,so that people can tell the original updates , which i think was a reasonable request .

wow, so he owns a name now?

Calm yourself down there young man and read the post.

A little respect for an authors wishes wont harm anybody and will serve as good base for the future of mission making there is no need to throw a hissy fit just because somebody asked for a small request . i dont even think this mission name would break that request as its more likely evoulution4 would be out before 3x.