USMC NEEDER 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Ive been doing a lot of research on the SU-34 and the Av-8B. And i was thinking to myself "a harrier blows compared to a F-18... and the Su-34 isnt that bad either, so it would be a good match up. Also, if you dont want a F-18 how about a...... F22!!!!!! yay!!! . lol but im serious, the su-34 is one of Russia's best planes and the f-18 is the best (so far) marine plane. (if you dont want a marine plane the f-15 is good also. So why an AV-8B? Anyways, just tell me what you think and why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted July 19, 2007 Well why dont you get yourself making one or prepairing too when the tools come out? Simple Really. People Make what they want to make and BIS Decided they wanted a harrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted July 19, 2007 The Harrier is much more appropriate, since the battlefield is relatively small, and Harriers are mainly used (by the USMC anyway) as a means of quickly deploying their own ground-support. You don't need a full-sized carrier for them. BIS should also have made something similar for the OPFOR instead of the SU-34. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BraTTy 0 Posted July 19, 2007 And haven't you seen Die Hard 4 ? The Harrier ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ASA-ODEN 0 Posted July 19, 2007 Indeed it is the Su-34 'Flashback' that is out of scope. Any MiG-27, Su-17 or Su-25 version would've been more proper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MontyVCB 0 Posted July 19, 2007 And haven't you seen Die Hard 4 ?The Harrier ! Its an F-35 in Die Hard 4 :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted July 19, 2007 And haven't you seen Die Hard 4 ?The Harrier ! Its an F-35 in Die Hard 4 :P And yes i can very doubt i can fly like that in real life. The Movement of the VTOL looked very unrealistic but good film non the less Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dynamax 0 Posted July 19, 2007 And haven't you seen Die Hard 4 ?The Harrier ! that was not a Harrier, that was a F35B JSF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ti0n3r Posted July 19, 2007 The Harrier fits into the story and besides, it's a sexy piece of junk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRailgunner 0 Posted July 19, 2007 @USMC NEEDER its kinda childish question: "Why did BIS put things in ArmA that i don't like?" the childish answer may: "Because its better" If you like to fly with an F-18 or F-22 you can: 1) make one or two asap 2) wait till some addon will be released by skilled addon maker (maybe some aircraft carrier or/and new islands will come with/just in time) @BraTTy In "Die Hard 4.0" thats definitely not an Harrier! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noraf 0 Posted July 19, 2007 well, the harrier is a good ground support aircraft, and doesn't need mutch more place than the cobras to work out of.... i guess thats why they chose the harrier. and anotherthing you can try, land the harrier on the roof downtown paradisio? or start? do that with the f-18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wamingo 1 Posted July 19, 2007 If you ask me it's not the harrier but the su34 that is out of place. This game doesn't lend itself very well to fast jets with the poor view distance and exaggerated terrain, easy radar and so on. I would've prefered they had stuck with the su-25 so that the harrier and su34 would've been optional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noraf 0 Posted July 19, 2007 yeah, instead of the su-34, they could have used either the Yak 41m or Yak-38 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pain-less 0 Posted July 19, 2007 And haven't you seen Die Hard 4 ?The Harrier ! Maybe he was thinking of "True Lies" with arrrrnold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted July 19, 2007 The only bad decission with the Harrier was it's Wapons Loadout. 2xSidewinders plus centerline Gunpods and 2x Mavericks and 2X FFAR Pods would have been better as a FAC, and 12X Mk82 or Mk20 cluster bombs on TERs in strike and CAS config. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frederf 0 Posted July 19, 2007 The only bad decission with the Harrier was it's Wapons Loadout.2xSidewinders plus centerline Gunpods and 2x Mavericks and 2X FFAR Pods would have been better as a FAC, and 12X Mk82 or Mk20 cluster bombs on TERs in strike and CAS config. Agree x 100. The Harrier and A-10 are perfect CAS aircraft for Sahrani due to their slow speed maneuverability (A-10) and ability to operate out of marginal airfields (both). The real shame is the load outs. 6x GBU-12s? That's a very expensive load for such a tiny island. Every BLUFOR airplane as well as many of the helicopters should always always always have A2A armament on them. AH-1Z, AV-8B, A-10 all should have sidewinders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wamingo 1 Posted July 19, 2007 oh yeah, I vouch for outfitting mk20's on various planes. would make for some killer special fx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted July 19, 2007 I think the bluefor aircraft in arma are good choices. I think that the armaments were designed for gameplay purposes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted July 19, 2007 yeah, instead of the su-34, they could have used either the Yak 41m or Yak-38 The Yak38....werent those things removed from the Russian Navy because they kept falling out of the Sky? I think I'd prefer Su-25 or older ground support jets like Su-22 or MiG-27 @Frederf: I think its pretty rare if not unheard of for Apaches and Cobras to carry A2A missiles. What we need is Franze/Nod's AH-64 with its customizable loadouts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted July 20, 2007 @Frederf: I think its pretty rare if not unheard of for Apaches and Cobras to carry A2A missiles. What we need is Franze/Nod's AH-64 with its customizable loadouts  According to this source the AH-1Z is capable of carrying AIM-9 air-to-air missiles. I've also seen some photos where they could be seen mounted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutty_101 0 Posted July 20, 2007 What self sealing tanks? Gee how come i get shot once and all my fuel leaks out in game. Gurrr someone forgot the bars leaks in my fuel tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted July 20, 2007 Self sealing tanks can't help you in 100% of cases. Large calibre bullets and more extensive damage can't be sealed. However, ArmA isn't an attack helicopter simulator and these aren't modelled... just like the armour of the helicopter, which should be able to withstand small arms fire a majority of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sander 14 Posted July 20, 2007 Hi, The relative slow speed of the Harrier and A10 makes these aircraft more suitable for inclusion in Armed Assault than other machines. It not only makes the aircraft easier to use, but one also does not overshoot the entire island in the blink of an eye. Another consideration is that other aircraft types are more likely to be used in the deep fight in real life, with the Harrier and A10 the most likely fixed wing types to be used for close air support to ground troops by U.S. forces. Regards, Sander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted July 20, 2007 The real shame is the load outs. 6x GBU-12s? That's a very expensive load for such a tiny island. Every BLUFOR airplane as well as many of the helicopters should always always always have A2A armament on them. AH-1Z, AV-8B, A-10 all should have sidewinders. The addweapon along with the other weapon commands also work on vehicles, so it's easy enough to customize loadouts for your missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
