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We have all these lovely addons but few are being utilized in MP maps. Most servers hosting evolution, me thinks kiljoy should have a souped up evolution map with the best addons included.

Evolution is a great map and accounts for at least 60% of maps hosted - spice it up please pistols.gif

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i made a mission for mp that uses addons tounge2.gif but im not sure anywan will host it yet. tounge2.gif

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This is indeed a concerning situation.

It was similar in OFP - the vast majority of servers would run no addons, those that did would be one or two "mod" specific, either running an entire mod like FDF or a "complete" set of addons like BAS.

We [bAS] will be promoting the mission side of the game much more this time round, as can already be seen with our framework, we will also be producing missions and hopefully mini/regular campaigns too. One team, however, can not change the entire community. But we are ever hopeful that other addon/mod teams will follow suit and make sure their addons are used for something more than just Combat "Photography".

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same here - every addon will be released with at least one, if not more mission(s) - although as well, we will be inviting people to submit their UK based missions to be hosted alongside our addons, so there's lots of choice

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Well I think the addon system just causes too much hassle so the only way to promote addons in MP is to make them part of a larger "mod" or some addon pack or something similar that provides good missions (this is crucial). Many OFP servers provided addon packs that were needed to play on their servers so that was ok. But you need someone to make missions for those addons wink_o.gif

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Well i dont think ArmA is that old.. i think the vanilla ArmA is good enough right now.

A lot of addons around right now are just reskins, tho there are a good few new models etc.

Addons mean everyone has to download them, which means public players wont bother, they'll try to join a map, get kicked off and go to another server.

We at 22SAS play our own private missions with some addons as we all have the addons and its cool. But public servers + addons arent the best of friends at this stage of ArmA IMO.

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For such an effort to prevail in my opinion there is just one possible option, a combined effort between 3 or 4 major MOD teams making a single pack that covers all sides of the game. And than some publicity in ARMA's websites as well as some dedicated servers at the beginning .

I have plans for this and I have the preliminary organization finished as well as many of the necessary contacts approached with lots of success.

Although it's too soon to start such a project, let the tools come out, the expansion too and than it should be the correct time for it imo biggrin_o.gif

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jay, same here. as we saw in ofp many addons were mostly used for taking photos instead of beeing used by missionmakers or in MP missions, which is quite a pitty! :-(

EDIT: isn't this thread meant to be in A&D:Discussion?

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I think this will change as soon as people start to release custom islands based on other parts of the world like the mid-east or africa. Germans, Russians, Brits etc on Sahrani doesn't make any sense to me.

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Well I think the addon system just causes too much hassle so the only way to promote addons in MP is to make them part of a larger "mod" or some addon pack or something similar that provides good missions (this is crucial). Many OFP servers provided addon packs that were needed to play on their servers so that was ok. But you need someone to make missions for those addons wink_o.gif

thats the only way to go. I wouldnt want to join public servers, and force to DL some 30mb addon just to play the mission.

A simple pack with the best addons included would be nice, and mission makers would use only the addon pack with they're missions. I dont mind to DL a 600mb addon pack, If every1 would use just that to make missions.

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or you do like me..

KP CTI.. got:

be32 transport plane

sam sites

bulldozer

uav

and more..

First did mission, then the addons for it.. instead of doing addons and trying to make missions for it.. (ok done that aswell, alouette, btr80..) but guess what gets used..

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A little shameless promo:

If it's addons and missions with addons you want, try the 6thsense community. I think the total package is up to 30-40 different addons now, selected from among the best of the community's efforts.

http://www.6thsense.eu/

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Having read Maruk's comment I can only assume BIS will not be concentrating on doing much extra content for the game and will instead focus on improving the engine whilst releasing the odd expansion pack (whether its them or outsourced) with new islands (and better missions) as the the main focus.

It kinda makes sense, since A: making islands in ArmA is looking very hardware intensive and B: VBS2 has absolutely tons more official content than ArmA and it has to stay that way to justify the $1500 price tag.

Is there going to be some sort of official community standard for user made content (mainly new models/units)? Once the tools have been out for a while and there's plenty to choose from the community is going to need to get together and pick out all the best stuff to put in one easy to find package..

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I really thought people would at least use the Hind. Even switching it fromt he Ka-50 flying around to the hind in evo would add alot at least to me.

I can't speak for all the helo pilots but for me its one of the most enjoyable to fly. And like others in terms of multiplay its been up to this point mostly wasted. I still think these mods will eventually surface in multiplay but its taking alot longer then I thought.

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I think this will change as soon as people start to release custom islands based on other parts of the world like the mid-east or africa. Germans, Russians, Brits etc on Sahrani doesn't make any sense to me.

Agreed, also a lot of addons come WITH a new island, e.g. if its a desert type island, then you'll get desert camo units etc

Plus if theres one large addon like an island, then other addons will be more freely used as they wont be using Vanilla arma smile_o.gif

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Heh, Ive only downloaded retextures right now, as far as addons I want to save my sanity until the tools arrive wink_o.gif

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