volkov956 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Is there an official estimate on how many Arma Salse Globally Including Online and Retail copies have sold by chance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted May 22, 2007 My friend and I have a copy of the 505 version... so at least 2! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clavicula_nox4817 0 Posted May 22, 2007 I have the Morphicon release and Atari US release...2 + 2 = 4! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAU-8 0 Posted May 22, 2007 i have euro morphicon release, and newly acquired atari DVD.. 2+2+2= 6 so far! so technically they have made double profit (or close to) for almost 3 individuals :P RAKING IT IN..milkin the cash cow babeh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smellyjelly 0 Posted May 22, 2007 I have the Sprocket version. So it's 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korax 4 Posted May 22, 2007 another one with Sprocket. up the count to 8! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AOCbravo2004 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Sprocket and Atari so 2 more bringing the total to 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johannes 10 Posted May 22, 2007 German version for me. So at least 11 sales so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorbtek 0 Posted May 22, 2007 13 for me, German version then the US version! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silent N Deadly 0 Posted May 22, 2007 I have about 100 friends that downloaded it illegally so -100. Wait 13 - 100 = -87 Just for the record I told them not to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Puma- 2 Posted May 22, 2007 so thats like 35 euros x -87= 3045 euros loss for bis..poor guys, hope they get welfare, to buy food and electricity to keep the patches coming.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INNOCENT&CLUELESS 0 Posted May 22, 2007 A bird was singing that BI made AT LEAST 2.500.000€ in Europe alone from the payments made by the publishers. But this is nothing if they need to finance another 5 years of development of Game2. So they need much more to have financially safe future. I do not know how much BI participates from BIAs success, if I following the news correctly BIA sold 2 x enterprise license. But I guess they keep the cash in BIAs basket since there are support contracts and maybe some penalties in the air if VBS2 has the same quality as ArmA (must be like that since it is the same engine). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Visceral_Syn 0 Posted May 22, 2007 I have about 100 friends that downloaded it illegally so -100. Wait 13 - 100 = -87Just for the record I told them not to do it. And thats exactly why PC Gaming is in the state its in now. I won't communicate with a thief. i certainly won't call that person 'friend'. Why is gaming goin to the console, because 'tards like the above mentioned and their 'enabler-friends'. EVERY Game-Dev deserves to be paid for the piece of art we use for gaming. ANYONE who wastes air on an exscuse for this kind of behavior ought to be Euthanized! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Puma- 2 Posted May 22, 2007 I have about 100 friends that downloaded it illegally so -100. Wait 13 - 100 = -87Just for the record I told them not to do it. And thats exactly why PC Gaming is in the state its in now. I won't communicate with a thief. i certainly won't call that person 'friend'. Why is gaming goin to the console, because 'tards like the above mentioned and their 'enabler-friends'. EVERY Game-Dev deserves to be paid for the piece of art we use for gaming. ANYONE who wastes air on an exscuse for this kind of behavior ought to be Euthanized! on the other hand PC gaming is strong ATM, because of Multiplayer. If u want to play online u have to buy the dam game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Visceral_Syn 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Even the magical Multiplayer aspect of PC Gaming is not saving it. the Kittens with balls of yarn crowd, i mean consolers, BUY games in droves. Its the teens gettin their sheeple parents to buy them games, the over 18 crowd refusing to use any part of their brain. Console stuff is all fluff and no substance. But they BUY it, meanwhile on average a PC-Gamer steals his crap, and wonders why gamin has gone to crap, why even console crap is even compared to PC-Gamin? Because GameDev's go where the money is. You make a product and people steal it, you don't make money to make another. Now if you make a product and everyone and their grandma BUYS it, then you makin moolah hand over fist, which can prolly fund 2 or 3 sequels, a prequel or even toss in a movie deal. This crap today, make a movie, then toss in a console game on the side, 'maybe' a pc title. Can't you see, PC Gaming's oldest habit, of stealin the content has shot itself in the foot, hell leg, hell...it's euthanized itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackal326 1181 Posted May 22, 2007 -87 + 2 (I bought two because one of the discs blew up in my CD drive) so thats -85. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt_Eversmann 1 Posted May 22, 2007 German ArmA SE, so -85+1 = -84 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted May 22, 2007 German SE so -84 + 1 = -83 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 22, 2007 I bought the German DVD version, and so did three mates of mine, so -83+4 = -79 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted May 22, 2007 -79+2 =-77 here, some of the guys at chiness site get legal copy too, might need to change the number once i get the number might need to +N0000 "non-paid" DL version too i have both a German DL and a Atari cheap-into-the-bone packaged DVD version, well i could care less about the package through Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted May 22, 2007 +1 505 copy, makes it 17 . I will have to buy a backup incase something bad happens to my DVD and wouldnt mind to pick a fully patched version. I dont know how well Arma is doing in the states but i think it could/should be doing better (and not only there). User made footage (youtube) and screens have done better promotion than the publishers poor efforts and gaming media put together. Edit: Hmm, 24.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adamicz 3 Posted May 22, 2007 A bird was singing that BI made AT LEAST 2.500.000€ in Europe alone from the payments made by the publishers.But this is nothing if they need to finance another 5 years of development of Game2. So they need much more to have financially safe future. I do not know how much BI participates from BIAs success, if I following the news correctly BIA sold 2 x enterprise license. But I guess they keep the cash in BIAs basket since there are support contracts and maybe some penalties in the air if VBS2 has the same quality as ArmA (must be like that since it is the same engine). BIS itself doesn't make money just on video game industry. Look at this site: http://www.bistudio.com/professional Especially references are interesting. e.g. "Weta Digital" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted May 22, 2007 A bird was singing that BI made AT LEAST 2.500.000€ in Europe alone from the payments made by the publishers.But this is nothing if they need to finance another 5 years of development of Game2. So they need much more to have financially safe future. I do not know how much BI participates from BIAs success, if I following the news correctly BIA sold 2 x enterprise license. But I guess they keep the cash in BIAs basket since there are support contracts and maybe some penalties in the air if VBS2 has the same quality as ArmA (must be like that since it is the same engine). BIS itself doesn't make money just on video game industry. Look at this site: http://www.bistudio.com/professional Especially references are interesting. e.g. "Weta Digital"  when you are running out of money, you will use everything within your limit to make some it is funny to see them able to find some great stuff over there too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dodgy Bob 0 Posted May 22, 2007 so thats like 35 euros x -87= 3045 euros loss for bis..poor guys, hope they get welfare, to buy food and electricity to keep the patches coming.. I do so hate that use of stats. The same calculation that is used to describe the losses in the music industry as the games industry. It's total tosh. Just because 100 people downloaded/copied the game does NOT mean 100 lost sales for whoever. Those people may not have had any intention of buying the game in the first place, in which case nobody's lost anything. Indeed, they may have downloaded it and never even installed it. I've downloaded music to listen to before, according to the argument above that means people have lost money. No, they haven't because if I couldn't of downloaded it I wouldn't have bothered with it at all. So they wouldn't have had the sale anyway. If I do want/like a particular album/game I'll buy it. Now, before you all jump on your flame wagons I am NOT condoning piracy. It is wrong. I'm just pointing out that the method used to calculate losses due to piracy is inherently flawed and artificially inflates the amount of the losses. I am not saying that there aren't ANY losses due to piracy, there quite clearly are. It's just the figures are incorrect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 22, 2007 (...) My sentiments exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites