barrett 50 cal sniper rifle

[major_upset 0]

When I was watching a video for the WarSound mod  I saw a barrett 50 cal sniper rifle. Awsome I thought, except.. I can't find it. Is it an addon (where can I get it?) a stock weapon, (What's the weapons code?) Or do I have to up to V-105? (Please god no! Damn LOD bug.)

Check the link to see what I'm talking about...

Modern warfare youtube

Cheers in advance...  

[Greg147 0]

You can find it in the 1.05 version. Its in the US SF weapon crate.

Its classname is M107, and the ammo is 10Rnd_127x99_M107

[major_upset 0]

You can find it in the 1.05 version. Its in the US SF weapon crate.

Its classname is M107, and the ammo is 10Rnd_127x99_M107

Sweet thanks for the reply mate. Can it kill BMP's like in RL?

[bravo 6 0]

http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Armed_Assault:_Weapons

Weapon Classname: M107

Magazine Classnames: 10Rnd_127x99_M107

Ammo Classnames: B_127x99_Ball_noTracer

Hit Damage: 13

Sights leveling: 500

soldier init: Removeallweapons this; this addmagazine "10Rnd_127x99_M107"; this addweapon "M107"

is this what you want?

edit: nvm.. too late

[major_upset 0]

http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Armed_Assault:_Weapons

Weapon Classname: M107

Magazine Classnames: 10Rnd_127x99_M107

Ammo Classnames: B_127x99_Ball_noTracer

Hit Damage: 13

Sights leveling: 500

soldier init: Removeallweapons this; this addmagazine "10Rnd_127x99_M107"; this addweapon "M107"

is this what you want?

edit: nvm.. too late

All help is welcome.

[max power 21]

The BMP-1 was invulnerable to .50 cal armour piercing rounds on the front 60 degree arc. I assume this means it could be pierced by such rounds from the remaining 300 degrees. It explicitly says AP so I don't know about common ball rounds. Now, having a 1/2 inch hole in the vehicle is different than killing it, but it seems possible however unlikely.

As for the BMP-2, I have no idea.

[-CS-SOBR-1st-I-R- 0]

As Plaintiff said already, you wont be able to pierce the frontal arc of the BMP with a 50 cal. (especially not in low firing rate = 50cal sniper)

You will probably be able to pierce the BMPs side armour which is not more than 22mm I believe from a certain distance at 0° though. The BMP2 is slightly uparmoured and thus maybe a bit harder to penetrate. This is RL .... but as we all know ARMA does not simulate real life damage effects, so dont expect to have a chance there. Either the sniper is too weak or too strong.

[major_upset 0]

SOBR[1st-I-R] @ April 11 2007,22:33)]As Plaintiff said already, you wont be able to pierce the frontal arc of the BMP with a 50 cal. (especially not in low firing rate = 50cal sniper)

You will probably be able to pierce the BMPs side armour which is not more than 22mm I believe from a certain distance at 0° though. The BMP2 is slightly uparmoured and thus maybe a bit harder to penetrate. This is RL .... but as we all know ARMA does not simulate real life damage effects, so dont expect to have a chance there. Either the sniper is too weak or too strong.

I know that trying to take out a BMP head on would only get you dead fast. But I read (In Wikipedia I think) that the rifle can and is used as an anti matieal (SP?) rifle, and wondered if it could do that in ArmA.

[urbanwarrior 0]

the 50cal is next to useless, go on youtube and have a looky, you'll see what the military uses in the anti material role and it is scary powerful, in arma its pathetic. nice to look at though.

[Heatseeker 0]

the 50cal is next to useless, go on youtube and have a looky, you'll see what the military uses in the anti material role and it is scary powerful, in arma its pathetic. nice to look at though.

Its not pathetic, its a one shot killer.

Try shooting at the BRDM-2's wheels, you can disable it very fast and from the distance with her .

[major_upset 0]

the 50cal is next to useless, go on youtube and have a looky, you'll see what the military uses in the anti material role and it is scary powerful, in arma its pathetic. nice to look at though.

Kind of figured that It seems to be a trend in games to make this damn fine rifle, nothing more than an uber sniper  

Speaking of youtube I found this vid of what the real one can do with the right round.

I didn't know joe public could buy one of these over the counter in the states! thought it'd be the same as the army version m16. federally banned from public use.

[-CS-SOBR-1st-I-R- 0]

I know that trying to take out a BMP head on would only get you dead fast. But I read (In Wikipedia I think) that the rifle can and is used as an anti matieal (SP?) rifle, and wondered if it could do that in ArmA.

Sure the intention of having a .50cal sniper rifle is to use it against material. Shooting people dead can be done quite fine with 308 winchester.

Although the .50cal BMG has a very high energy and can as a AP bullet pierce many mm of RHA at far distances, it would in real life rarely to never be used to take out IFVs but only (if at all) APCs.

These rifles are mainly designed to hit a target which is hiding behind something ie. (car door, concrete wall, etc.) And that works very fine in real life. Shooting at cars would for sure mean a dead penetration too.

Now the big question is if you can do that in ArmA... we know that in ArmA bullets can go through wood fences for example but I think that ArmA still isnt that ready. A 50cal would pierce a car from the side and kill someone at the other end of it too, which doesnt work in ArmA.

Anyway ArmAs penetraion and damage models are highly messed up and I would NOT advise ArmA as a testing tool "to find out" how these weapons work in real life.

[kilo1-1 1]

the 50cal is next to useless, go on youtube and have a looky, you'll see what the military uses in the anti material role and it is scary powerful, in arma its pathetic. nice to look at though.

Kind of figured that It seems to be a trend in games to make this damn fine rifle, nothing more than an uber sniper

Speaking of youtube I found this vid of what the real one can do with the right round.

I didn't know joe public could buy one of these over the counter in the states! thought it'd be the same as the army version m16. federally banned from public use.

Yup. In just about any gun store, there is at least a .50 cal weapon.

[-CS-SOBR-1st-I-R- 0]

the 50cal is next to useless, go on youtube and have a looky, you'll see what the military uses in the anti material role and it is scary powerful, in arma its pathetic. nice to look at though.

Kind of figured that It seems to be a trend in games to make this damn fine rifle, nothing more than an uber sniper

Speaking of youtube I found this vid of what the real one can do with the right round.

I didn't know joe public could buy one of these over the counter in the states! thought it'd be the same as the army version m16. federally banned from public use.

Have a look at this one ... its about banning .50cal snipers in the US:

Youtube Video

[Big Dawg KS 6]

It seems to be a trend in games to make this damn fine rifle, nothing more than an uber sniper

No, it's a trend that not every single game has the proper armor/penetration simulations required to legitimately enable such features. Properly simulating the physics behind anti-material rifles is just too complex for most modern games, especially since these games are not designed soley for the purpose of simulating realistic small arms balistics and armor penetration.

[major_upset 0]

It seems to be a trend in games to make this damn fine rifle, nothing more than an uber sniper

No, it's a trend that not every single game has the proper armor/penetration simulations required to legitimately enable such features. Properly simulating the physics behind anti-material rifles is just too complex for most modern games, especially since these games are not designed soley for the purpose of simulating realistic small arms balistics and armor penetration.

It's still a trend whichever way you look at it.

@ [CS]SOBR[1st-I-R] I got a feeling that if criminals started using .cal 50's they'ed end up with the army or national guard tearing them a new one

[major_upset 0]

SOBR[1st-I-R] @ April 11 2007,23:25)]

I know that trying to take out a BMP head on would only get you dead fast. But I read (In Wikipedia I think) that the rifle can and is used as an anti matieal (SP?) rifle, and wondered if it could do that in ArmA.

Sure the intention of having a .50cal sniper rifle is to use it against material. Shooting people dead can be done quite fine with 308 winchester.

Although the .50cal BMG has a very high energy and can as a AP bullet pierce many mm of RHA at far distances, it would in real life rarely to never be used to take out IFVs but only (if at all) APCs.

These rifles are mainly designed to hit a target which is hiding behind something ie. (car door, concrete wall, etc.) And that works very fine in real life. Shooting at cars would for sure mean a dead penetration too.

Now the big question is if you can do that in ArmA... we know that in ArmA bullets can go through wood fences for example but I think that ArmA still isnt that ready. A 50cal would pierce a car from the side and kill someone at the other end of it too, which doesnt work in ArmA.

Anyway ArmAs penetraion and damage models are highly messed up and I would NOT advise ArmA as a testing tool "to find out" how these weapons work in real life.

So the correct term for the rifle would be counter sniper rather than Anti material?

Sorry about double post

[-CS-SOBR-1st-I-R- 0]

So the correct term for the rifle would be counter sniper rather than Anti material?

Sorry about double post

No Anti Material is the right designation for this type of rifles. Counter Sniper is just the method these rifles are usualy (aswell) used.

.50 cal snipers have disadvantages to standard .308 rifles which are weight, size, sound, flash.

The advantages are clear. Youd only use a 50cal sniper when the advantages make out a bigger part than the disadvantages.

Its good to take out fortified positions. Of course it can also pierce APCs armour but noone would rely on that in a combat operation that a sniper can take out a whole column of APCs.

Just feel to say that although it is strong, its use is limited and often exaggerated.

[Heatseeker 0]

Anyone tried to kill some mines with it? I doubt that it works... but i havent tried, its fun to disable light vehicles though.

Its unfortunate that the opfor counterpart (KSKV) is sloppy. I would rather have waited for it in some later patch but have it done properly (placed correctly on the soldier model) .

[-CS-SOBR-1st-I-R- 0]

Anyone tried to kill some mines with it? I doubt that it works...

Hmm... dont know for sure, but found this:

Quote[/b] ]The M82A1 is known for US Military as the SASR - "Special Applications Scoped Rifle", and it was and still is used as an anti-materiel weapon and EOD (explosive ordnance disposal) tool. The long effective range along with high energy and availability of highly effective ammunition such as API and Raufoss M213 allows for effective operations against targets like radar cabins, trucks, parked aircrafts and so on.

[dirtylarrygb 0]

SOBR[1st-I-R] @ April 12 2007,01:27)]

Anyone tried to kill some mines with it? I doubt that it works...

Hmm... dont know for sure, but found this:

Quote[/b] ]The M82A1 is known for US Military as the SASR - "Special Applications Scoped Rifle", and it was and still is used as an anti-materiel weapon and EOD (explosive ordnance disposal) tool. The long effective range along with high energy and availability of highly effective ammunition such as API and Raufoss M213 allows for effective operations against targets like radar cabins, trucks, parked aircrafts and so on.

In the game the 50 cals seem to need the least range finding in the scope. they general shoot straight at 200 meters and often 1 shot kill even if you hit an arm or leg.

The M24 and draganov, allow to fire more before moving they make slightly less noise but are a bit more work.

Downside to the above if they have 1 scope magnification.

For sniping under 500m's the SPR M4 thing is real killer fast fire rate and 2 levels of zoom. And unlike the 50.cals you can stand up and still be quite accurate with out the recoil that leaves you staring at the sky.

You can also use it in close combat like an M4. With the other snipers its best to switch to a pistol.

At 400+ meters though the real snipers are better you have to start firing 10 feet above the target to hit with the SPR.

For range I can hit a target with the 50 cals the whole length of the airfield. For half that distance the SPR is better.