Burning Sands: Africa '42

[cl10k 0]

@[AIF] Kris: what you say is bullsh!t. read churchills biography called "the second world war" and learn about your own history and the importance of american help for the british troops.

cl10k

[-AIF- Kris 0]

Read the battle of Africa 1940 then you'll see

[cl10k 0]

by who? google found nothing....

[-AIF- Kris 0]

sorry wrong book this: Dilemmas of the Desert War

by michael Carver

[Sennacherib 0]

which tanks the brits had at the end of he campaign:

M3 lee-grant, M3 stuart (reco), M3A1 stuart (reco), M4 sherman, M4A1 sherman.

because the british tanks were not enough powerful (main gun) to fight against the new PZ4 (with the long 75mm gun), the panther etc.

+ all the supplies given by the USA (weapons, ammunitions etc).

[Major Fubar 0]

If everyone doesn't calm down right now, this thread will be locked and all the offenders will get a lengthy ban from the forums.

First and last warning.

[Benoist 0]

Calm down Hartman, easy, easy.

Relax, like Zoolander.

A little "fight" here, nothing more. Don't close this because would be a shame lose this MOD (or at least his news).

[-AIF- Kris 0]

which tanks the brits had at the end of he campaign:

M3 lee-grant, M3 stuart (reco), M3A1 stuart (reco), M4 sherman, M4A1 sherman.

because the british tanks were not enough powerful (main gun) to fight against the new PZ4 (with the long 75mm gun), the panther etc.  

+ all the supplies given by the USA (weapons, ammunitions etc).

Yea these tanks were also used because they were fast and didnt get stuck in the sand :P

[-AIF- Kris 0]

So do we have any news on the mod?? Would be good to no whats happening XD ty

[MehMan 0]

Well not much news. I'm currently in the process of unwrapping everything which is the most boring part of the whole making of things process and at the same time I'm working on some British soldier refrence drawings, with help from Col. Faulkner. After that I'll have some more modeling and unwrapping to do and then I can start texturing and slowly R1 will start shaping up, then the island. A lot of work for one man. Basically, at least a couple of months. I'd be very glad myself if I'll be able to get an alpha working by christmas.

Today is seven months since I started work on this mod and it's still nowhere near done, I've finally completed all the vehicle and weapons modeling for R1, but that's only half the deal, so you can imagine that there's a lot more to do.

[-AIF- Kris 0]

Yea will if u wont im in the middle of learing how to make islands but i can get something going for you just give us a yell if ur interested ty

[Col. Faulkner 0]

Kris @ Sep. 09 2007,05:29)]

which tanks the brits had at the end of he campaign:

M3 lee-grant, M3 stuart (reco), M3A1 stuart (reco), M4 sherman, M4A1 sherman.

because the british tanks were not enough powerful (main gun) to fight against the new PZ4 (with the long 75mm gun), the panther etc.  

+ all the supplies given by the USA (weapons, ammunitions etc).

Yea these tanks were also used because they were fast and didnt get stuck in the sand :P

However, the biggest tank killers in the campaign were A/Tk

guns, not other tanks. The most common pieces from mid-

1942 (British 6 pdr Mk II and German 5cm PaK 38) could

defeat anything their respective enemies had in-theatre at

that time.

[hypno toad 0]

Any chance after you are done burning sands, you could make a European theater version? You guys have some good stuff here.

[Jarvis 0]

I think he's doing British commandos in Europe if I'm not mistaken...Should be good though.

[Col. Faulkner 0]

I think he's doing British commandos in Europe if I'm not mistaken...Should be good though.

It would seem that some of you more recent posters are

under the impression that I am involved in some way with

this Burning Sands mod. Much as I would like to be

associated with such sterling work, I am, alas, only assisting

in an insignificant "historical advisory" capacity. The mod is

solely the work of "MehMan". My own commandos project is

something else entirely than this.

[Sennacherib 0]

Quote[/b] ] only assisting

in an insignificant "historical advisory" capacity.

how a human encyclopaedia can be insignificant?

[MehMan 0]

I think he's doing British commandos in Europe if I'm not mistaken...Should be good though.

Unfortunatley you are mistaken, that's all Col. Faulkners work.

And nah Col. Faulkner, it's far from insignificant!

[Col. Faulkner 0]

Kris @ Sep. 08 2007,04:28)]... (El Alamein), You had the 1st/10th/1Q10th/7th tank brigade, 9th Australian, 2nd NZ, 1st South Africans, 4th Indian, Greek, 50th/44/8/10/30 British, 1st french. On the Axis side you had 21/15/littorio/ariete tank brigade, XXI/X German/ 90th light Italian/ (unknown on rest).

You have that a bit mixed up. It was British 1st, 10th, 8th &

7th armoured divisions, not brigades (although there

was a 1st Armd Bde in 8th Army), and you totally forgot to

mention the 51st Highland Division!

X, XIII and XXX Corps formed 8th Army

1st A/Tk Bde

1st Armd Bde

2nd AA Bde

12th AA Bde

21st Indep Inf Bde

X Corps

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1st Armd Div

8th Armd Div

10th Armd Div  

XIII corps

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7th Armd Div (incl 1st Free French Bde Gp)

44th Div

50th Div  (incl 1st Greek Bde & 2nd Free French Bde Gp)

XXX Corps

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23rd Armd Bde Gp

51st (Highland) Div

Indian 4th Div

Australian 9th Div

NZ 2nd Div

South African 1st Div

Italian

X Corps (Pavia, Brescia, Folgore Divisions & 9th Bersaglieri),

XX Corps (Trieste, Ariete, Littorio Divisions)

XXI Corps (Bologna & Trento Divisions & 7th Bersaglieri)

Reserve Corps (Giovanni Facisti Division)

German

90th Leichte Div

164th Leichte "Afrika" Div

Ramcke Fallschirmjaeger Bde

15th Panzer Div

21st Panzer Div

[Col. Faulkner 0]

Is a Vickers machine gun going to be included in this addon set?

[Jarvis 0]

Is this just the main units in major battles or any lrdg?

If so Vickers K and lewis .

I'm sure Australians are important enough to have...Tel el Eisa or most other major battles really... Give them a hat model (well, actually I think they mostly went with their mk2 helmets... oops), and different voices and there ya go .

[Col. Faulkner 0]

Based on number and type of troops in theatre in mid to late

1942, Australians weren't any more (or less) important than

South Africans, New Zealanders or Indians (the Greeks and

Free French were there in much smaller numbers).

"MehMan's" soldier in KDs and tin hat is useable for all of

these with small, or no, modifications (with the exception of

some of the Indian regiments - wearing paggri in action - and

the FF - wearing British clothing but with their own French

kit).

[Kristian 47]

Any progress on that soldat? looked good!

will the mod be only about Germany VS UK, or will you add italianos, frenchies and US troops too?

[MehMan 0]

No progress right now, stalemate. RL issues and other mods have given me a call and I just don't have the time, energy and will for everything, so this has to be sidetracked.

Well for release 1 I plan to only have Germany vs UK. It'll probably stay that way because adding everybody else means that this won't be released for years to come.

[Kristian 47]

no no. I mean first lettig out UK and germany, and that follows tons of updates

with new units, weapons, etc...

[Col. Faulkner 0]

No progress right now, stalemate. RL issues and other mods have given me a call and I just don't have the time, energy and will for everything, so this has to be sidetracked.

Sorry to hear about this having to be sidetracked. I hope

that won't evolve into a permanent situation. For several

reasons this was an especially interesting and worthwhile

ArmA mod subject.