Cold War Rearmed Discussion

[CanadianTerror 0]

With all the new types of models coming out, I think the OFP feel is starting to happen (for me anyways)

Im quite sure that CWR will give ArmA a big boost.

[the_shadow 0]

will there be a BMP1 in the beta pack or just the BMP2 already in the game?

[eddyd 0]

CWR need a greencamo A-10 tank killer like in the old days of ofp

like this one that i make .

i still have the paa files

if you want it ? pm ,i do noting with it

[Jahve 0]

The OFP A10 wasnt "camo'ed", it was just green

[khayes 0]

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in this screen from OFP, we can see two colors of green

this makes me think of this camo

edit: i'm not asking anything, i really don't care either it is camoed or plain green, i'm playing infantry so i won't have the time to admire the paint scheme

[raedor 8]

@-=UOE.Txalo=-: We're not changing gameplay/AI, at least not more than cfg changes.

@eddyD: Yep, thanks for input -- for now we only use the ArmA A-10, as there was no A-10 in the demo.

@the_shadow: We have a new BMP-1 model in the demo. I think the paras are not overwriting the ArmA ones, not sure, though.

@nubbin77: As W0lle said, we're using OFP class names. That's a bit uncool, as we are overwriting some, but not all ArmA classes. We'll let it as is in the demo, maybe we hide or delete the left ArmA classes in the full build.

@Maddmatt: We did have own clutter, but we're using ArmA clutter in the demo due to some stupid bugs. We're currently using the OFPE M60 MG. If we can get Skaven's model in MLOD, we'd defitnitely take it. In the CWR demo will be only things you saw in the OFP demo, all other stuff on the pics is not from CWR.

[Maddmatt 1]

@Maddmatt: We did have own clutter, but we're using ArmA clutter in the demo due to some stupid bugs. We're currently using the OFPE M60 MG. If we can get Skaven's model in MLOD, we'd defitnitely take it. In the CWR demo will be only things you saw in the OFP demo, all other stuff on the pics is not from CWR.

Oh. I just noticed the new pics here from Parvus show that grass again. It looks good to me. Though it also seems long, which might annoy some people.

As for the M60, there is an M60E4 included in the Italian units addon. According to the readme included with the units (although the weapon itself is in the weapon addon):

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M60E4:

Model: Twinke Masta

Skin: Kimono

E4 grip: Laser

I don't know if it's going to be any easier to get permission and an MLOD version. I guess that E4 grip might need to be removed. It does look very good in-game.

[raedor 8]

As for the M60, there is an M60E4 included in the Italian units addon. According to the readme included with the units (although the weapon itself is in the weapon addon):

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M60E4:

Model: Twinke Masta

Skin: Kimono

E4 grip: Laser

I don't know if it's going to be any easier to get permission and an MLOD version. I guess that E4 grip might need to be removed. It does look very good in-game.

I don't want to sound arrogant or whatever... but that is a CS convert... I never liked that stuff, not in OFP and not now. That does not mean that this is not a good addon, it only means we won't use it in CWR.

[Maddmatt 1]

I don't want to sound arrogant or whatever... but that is a CS convert... I never liked that stuff, not in OFP and not now. That does not mean that this is not a good addon, it only means we won't use it in CWR.

Alright, I understand. It does seem to have everything that an ArmA weapon should have though, like LODs and normal maps (I could be wrong about the LODs, I don't have an MLOD version). I just hope you guys find a good replacement for the OFP:E model, it really looks out of place there.

[Jahve 0]

CS imports are also the intelectual property of other people.

[Maddmatt 1]

CS imports are also the intelectual property of other people.

Yea, that applies to all models, including ArmA models. So obviously if you wanted to use it, you would ask the permission of the CS modders that made it and the people who imported and changed it for ArmA. That's why I quoted the credits.

Anyway reador has already said no. So hopefully you guys get a new M60, I guess there are some guys on the team that can make one.

[raedor 8]

Anyway reador has already said no. So hopefully you guys get a new M60, I guess there are some guys on the team that can make one.

We'll see what we can do.

/edit: Looks like we did something already...

[The_Captain 0]

I see CWR will use the same classnames as OFP. Will it also use the same display names? Specifically I prefer "rifleman" to "soldier".

Also, can the ARMA classes be included with the new models? I saw that the arma classes might be included but I'm not sure if you guys meant with the original arma models or with the new cwr models and stats. I would really like to include automatic riflemen, squad leaders, and team leaders into my missions.

Thanks.

[raedor 8]

We're planning to use the same strings as OFP did, this is maybe not possible in the demo (also east, west instead of BLUFOR etc).

No, for demo and the next releases we do not plan to have all ArmA characters/classes supported. When the mod (Res included) is done, we might think about making a "CWR _Mod_ Edition" which does not try to simulate vanilla OFP:R but a modded one, with many little enhancements, new units etc. The normal CWR edition is only there to bring OFP to ArmA.

[CanadianTerror 0]

Forgive me if this was covered...

original weapon sounds or new sounds?

While the OFP "feel" is a cool idea, the sounds were one of the weakest things ever.

just my 2 cents.

[dm 9]

Forgive me if this was covered...

Been seeing this a lot lately, might be a good idea to post a FAQ in this thread and on the wiki page.

[CanadianTerror 0]

I did check this before posting....

CWR page

Why not spread some more info?

[Shadow NX 1]

Been playing the two CWR demo missions and i now can answer the question often asked here:

Is ArmA really that bad or is it just the setting on Sahrani with some US troops in Snow suits ( yeah yeah i know its ACU ) and a funky mixed fictinal SLA?

( forgive me the drama )

Indeed it is, CWR totally rocks the boat, Malden looks really really nice in the new engine, awesome to play Ambush and see the village from so far away and be able to overlook the whole mission area from the hills.

Also it plays pretty similar to OFP and if BIS fixes the skill setting of the units some more in the next ArmA patch then i cant see why anyone would still wanna play OFP ( ok ok people with older PCs dont count ).

@Canadian Terror, i may be wrong but i think they dont port OFP over 100% but rather simulate a modded late OFP.

Weapons already in ArmA are used with the ArmA sounds i think, the placeholders like the OFP M60 seemed to use the old original sound but that can change fast.

[Cpt. FrostBite 0]

Is ArmA really that bad or is it just the setting on Sahrani with some US troops in Snow suits ( yeah yeah i know its ACU ) and a funky mixed fictinal SLA?

( forgive me the drama )

Indeed it is,

Agreed. I don't use the rugular units anymore. The addon-ACU units out there are much better although ACU will remain ACu and you either like it or you don't. Personally I think ACU is not that bad, but it's indeed not a very good camouflage for a very green enviroment. MARPAT marines would have been a better choise for BIS.

I've been using desert units on desert sahrani and I must say I had awesome combat situations that are just as intense and 'fun' as in OFP, but with way better graphics making the epxerience much better. ArmA on itself is an incomplete game and not that good, but it's engine is good enough to give addon-makers the tools to make it an awesome game.

That's why I'm looking forward to CWR as it will combine the gameplay of OFP and the graphics of ArmA.

Only thing that remains for me is the flight model of the helicopters. No matter what I do I just can't get it right and fly a helicopter without crashing. And that's too bad as helicopter-flying was one of my favorite things in OFP

[Shadow NX 1]

Totally agree to the statement about choppers, now i just fly them if i have to

But were going offtopic again, sorry ^^

[lee_h._oswald 0]

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Is ArmA really that bad or is it just the setting?

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Indeed it is, CWR totally rocks the boat, Malden looks really really nice in the new engine

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Thanks for that information!

It's very important to know that better times for ArmA are coming.

I really can't identify myself with the iraq-like-desert-scenario.

This mod(demo) and the patch 1.09 to fix the fogbug is all I

need now.

Let's hope BIS is doing the same good job as the cwr team!

MfG Lee

[Commando84 0]

can't we use some of the jam sound packs that came for ofp r?

they where pretty awesome imo.

[andersson 285]

I hope they use vanilla-arma sounds, then everyone can choose whatever soundpack they want.

[Heatseeker 0]

The units are looking wild, should i dare mentioning the boonies ?

I have to agree about the game setting too, Arma has the engine but the sharani/sla/acu didnt do it for me.

Im looking forward to the CWR demo more than any new game out there, hmmhmm .

[MATRA 0]

Im looking forward to the CWR demo more than any new game out there, hmmhmm .

Eu também /me too.