Is Armed Assault Dead on Arrival?

[WhiskeyBullets 0]

This post is not to start a flame war in reguards to the views of most long time OFP players. The biggest complaint of OFP was it was to hard for most of the gaming communtiy because it took awile to learn the game itself on how the controls worked.

Now with Armed Assault being released which has been 3 years of waiting for most of us here, i am stunned by the people that say this is better than OFP was. I like most have waited this long for Armed Assault and ordered a copy as soon as it was available. I have had my copy for two weeks and to tell you the truth i have played it 3 times. I still play ofp almost everynight be it WGL, ECP COOP or CTF. Im not saying at some point Armed Assault cant be fixed but thats a long time off and quite a few patches later.

Some Items have been addressed in the current patch but overall the feel of the game is broken as of right now. Yah the new graphics look good but most players that played OFP werent concern about how the graphics looked. It was the feel of the game that kept this community together so long and with Armed Assault its not there.

I know at this point its to late to go back to the drawing board and rework the game itself but the majority of US players will walk away once they played it once or twice.

I cant help but think most of us trying to "like" the game when each of us know what i have stated here to be true.

[evilnate 0]

I'm not trying to flame either but i'm sure your opinion would still be heard if you responded to an existing "gripe thread".

I'm sure BIS is listening to the communities opinions.

[smellyjelly 0]

Like most games, give this a few hours try, it may grow on you. (I know you said you played it three times, but you didn't say how long)

I'm still waiting till February, and then I'm going to order a copy from the UK to the US. The OFP demo is very hard and I'm having difficulties passing the missions.

[bangtail 0]

I must confess that I "tried" to like it for over a week but in it's current state I am no longer interested. I have uninstalled it for now but I am more than willing to revisit it when it has matured a little more. It would be unfair to expect a game to be as mature as OFP is now out of the box but the state that ArmA was released in, for whatever reason, wasn't acceptable. I do however remain confident that it will get significantly better once we get a few patches and the mod community kicks in. The foundation is there, hopefully it wont take them long too fix some of the more serious problems

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[pajama 0]

OFP has "matured" and still has room to grow. For Armed Assault that time will surely come, perhaps even sooner with fimiliarity of the old engine.

[Sentralia 0]

Do you guys not like it because it's realistic and too hard, or because of the bugs?

[CameronMcDonald 146]

Some specific gripes might help, saying the game is "broken" isn't really much of a complaint.

If it's a control issue, you'll get over it, believe me. I've embraced them but good.

[bangtail 0]

Do you guys not like it because it's realistic and too hard, or because of the bugs?

"Realistic and hard", I don't think that's accurate, but you are entitled to your opinion. Hmmmm, thats not where my issues lie and I'm not going to turn this into a "slam ArmA" thread, but there is plenty wrong with it, cosmetically and otherwise. Some people like it and I am not about to try and detract from your enjoyment. I've clearly stated that I think it will get better.

I'm not going to list the faults as they have been listed in numerous other threads.

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[Sertorius 0]

Weird, I'd never go back to OFP after playing ArmA.

[yarex 0]

Aaah, some people that grown on counter strike type like games are expecting same runNshoot type of game, but arma is slightly different world with different rules.

Get used to it or find another game that you like.

The rest of us will njoy realistic warfare simulator.

[WhiskeyBullets 0]

Im not slamming Armed Assault, it is what it is . Im not complaining about the bugs because all new games have bugs in it when they first come out. Operation Flashpoint had and still has bugs in it but it was playable with version 1.0 but Armed Assault isnt.  

Thats the point im trying to express with my thread. Im not saying Armed Assault is terrible what im saying is that its unplayable. I have tried very hard to give it try and continue to play it but everything comes back to the reason i listed here. I hope this is taken by the MOD's here in the forums as constructive criticism and doesnt get locked.

[Heatseeker 0]

I hope this is taken by the MOD's here in the forums as constructive criticism and doesnt get locked.

Where is the constructive criticism? You claim the game is DOA while it was only released in very few countries (early), you say its unplayable yet others still love it and see its great potential even if it has flaws that need to be adressed.

The "feel" is broken? They included swiming, better colision detection, insane graphics, multiple turrets, new vehicle classes, building/object destruction, larger terrain and cities, more units per mission, unlimited groups, wildlife, JIP, etc but the feel... ah the feel is... broken, cancel the patches, the release of the tools, all is lost because the "feel" is broken.

Im feeling that you should find a proper topic before you open a pointless thread, no offence but doing this wont help anyone.

[bangtail 0]

I hope this is taken by the MOD's here in the forums as constructive criticism and doesnt get locked.

Where is the constructive criticism? You claim the game is DOA while it was only released in very few countries (early), you say its unplayable yet others still love it and see its great potential even if it has flaws that need to be adressed.

The "feel" is broken? They included swiming, better colision detection, insane graphics, multiple turrets, new vehicle classes, building/object destruction, larger terrain and cities, more units per mission, unlimited groups, wildlife, JIP, etc but the feel... ah the feel is... broken, cancel the patches, the release of the tools, all is lost because the "feel" is broken.

Im feeling that you should find a proper topic before you open a pointless thread, no offence but doing this wont help anyone.

Whether people like it or not is subjective. There are many people who have voiced serious concerns. No one is "dissing" ArmA out of hand but there is nothing wrong with someone saying they aren't satisfied, just like there is nothing wrong with you enjoying it!

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[twisted 128]

why open a new thread on an existing topic?

and welcome to your opinion. but it is not the only opinion. why try to convince people that it is. other people can have different opinions.

Mine for example differs substantially from yours. .

i think ArmA is better than OFP. a real evolution right down to the way the characters move, the graphics (including simualiton of sight) and morethanks for sharing your opinion.

sure it needs a few tweaks but in no way unplayable. in fact it is very enjoyable. but it is defeintely not BF2 or anything similar.

PS - welome to these boards. It's great to see many new faces obviously having just joined just to share their views on ArmA.

[bangtail 0]

That is why it is subjective. There are plenty of threads outlining how much some people like the game. Some people treat others dislike of the game as some kind of personal attack. I don't take your enjoyment as such. I'm not at all happy with it. Thats my opinion. I dont expect everyone to share my opinion but you shouldn't expect everyone to share yours.

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[WhiskeyBullets 0]

Well i dont see how this thread is pointless, since i posted this i have received many PM's saying i hit the nail on the head.

I have played OFP for 6 years going on 7 with my squad of members that are still playing OFP today when most squads have closed up shop.

I would agree that there is alot of things new that you can do in Armed Assault that you could not do in OFP but at what cost to the game itself. What im trying to make a point is that when most players get this game they will not play it period and there goes the OFP community were there will be 20 players a night playing Armed Assault.

BF2 is what it is, but it was playable right out of the box.

[froggyluv 2136]

Posts like these are a little disheartening to those of us that don't own the game yet. Still I appreciate sincere opinions, praise and critique that give an honest outlook of ARMA, not hype.

Bottom line- I'll buy ARMA regardless, just wont be in such a rush to get it.

[bangtail 0]

Posts like these are a little disheartening to those of us that don't own the game yet. Still I appreciate sincere opinions, praise and critique that give an honest outlook of ARMA, not hype.

Bottom line- I'll buy ARMA regardless, just wont be in such a rush to get it.

No one is saying don't buy it. I bought it and I think you have to experience it for yourself to formulate your own opinions. Only you can decide whether you like it or not. There are plenty of positive and negative opinions about it floating around that can help you make decisions but ultimately, its up to your own experience with it.

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[Heatseeker 0]

I have played OFP for 6 years going on 7 with my squad of members that are still playing OFP today when most squads have closed up shop...

OPF is 5.5 years old.

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What im trying to make a point is that when most players get this game they will not play it period..

Because you dont like the feel of it, we know.. but by the time it comes out all over EU and possibly the US (Feb. next year) most problems might have been adressed and the people that like Arma will be making missions, addons or having a good time, some already started...

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BF2 is what it is, but it was playable right out of the box.

I dont use that kind of software (dont like its feel) . Heard about its problems too (crashes, memory leaks), there are many games out there published by industry giants with serious flaws that never got fixed, while BIS is an independant studio and supported Arma's development on their own i trust they will do their best to improve Armed Assault.

[bangtail 0]

I have played OFP for 6 years going on 7 with my squad of members that are still playing OFP today when most squads have closed up shop...

OPF is 5.5 years old.

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What im trying to make a point is that when most players get this game they will not play it period..

Because you dont like the feel of it, we know.. but by the time it comes out all over EU and possibly the US (Feb. next year) most problems might have been adressed and the people that like Arma will be making missions, addons or having a good time, some already started...

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BF2 is what it is, but it was playable right out of the box.

I dont use that kind of software (dont like its feel) . Heard about its problems too (crashes, memory leaks), there are many games out there published by industry giants with serious flaws that never got fixed, while BIS is an independant studio and supported Arma's development on their own i trust they will do their best to improve Armed Assault.

Agreed, they will fix it. I've never doubted that, but the state it is in now isn't optimal IMHO.

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[Dallas 9]

I think DOA is a melodramatic exaggeration for effect, but some think it's the best way to promote patches. I think it's a bit annoying, but I know my own happy-go-lucky attitude is too.

If you can't see the beauty in the game just yet, you'll have to continue to direct next patch towards your desires. I'm overall happy about everything, except some minor tweaks. So I'll be playing the game, as much as I can. While I struggle to educate myself on the ArmA editor.

[Heatseeker 0]

Agreed, they will fix it. I've never doubted that, but the state it is in now isn't optimal IMHO.

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BIS always listened to the comunity, ofcourse they cant implement everything but from the first free OPF addons, to handguns, motorcycles, bridges and even women in Resistance. Editing tools, fixing bugs and MP... and now they did it again with the water, colapsing buildings and many other things.

Im sure they will do their best to improve Arma, saying the game is DOA is not constructive or helpfull to them or anyone else here.

edit: Ciau mr. D .

[bangtail 0]

Agreed, they will fix it. I've never doubted that, but the state it is in now isn't optimal IMHO.

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BIS always listened to the comunity, ofcourse they cant implement everything but from the first free OPF addons, to handguns, motorcycles, bridges and even women in Resistance. Editing tools, fixing bugs and MP...  and now they did it again with the water, colapsing buildings and many other things.

Im sure they will do their best to improve Arma, saying the game is DOA is not constructive or helpfull to them or anyone else here.

edit: Ciau mr. D .

Again, Agreed The game is not DOA by any stretch of the imagination. It just needs some work.

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[WhiskeyBullets 0]

you might want to readd your years again, yes its been 6 years going on 7. Im just saying that after Armed Assault is released worldwide there wont be many playing it. Im sorry to bust some forum members bubbles but thats the cold hard truth. I dont take any joy in saying that because what that means to BIS and with future games from them.

OFP was a small market game with a great community and players. Armed Assault will be half that when the remaining OFP squads move on to other games. Money talks volumes in the gaming industry and when you lose half of the base that pay for your product thats a sign the company has lost touch with the customers.

You think that im saying "do not buy AA", Im not. When they do release it worldwide next year i wont be the only one that will be disappointed.

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[Sertorius 0]

Quote[/b] ]OFP was a small market game with a great community and players. Armed Assault will be half that when the remaining OFP squads move on to other games. Money talks volumes in the gaming industry and when you lose half of the base that pay for your product thats a sign the company has lost touch with the customers.

Well, if you make sweeping assumptions, you could "prove" any argument. Who says that the OFP community will shrink with ArmA's release? Are you an expert in marketing?