Casto 0 Posted January 29, 2002 what do you think is this VBS or not independencelost i think its not Vbs and something we will get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Jekyll 0 Posted January 29, 2002 It sure does look like a whole new game, maybe that's why we haven't seen so much new stuff in the upgrades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R. Gerschwarzenge 0 Posted January 29, 2002 Maybe it's some kind of light version of VBS that you can buy as an add-on for OFP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted January 29, 2002 Yeah, I also think this might be a future big addon... Maybe that expansion pack that has been talked of? Dont know, but it definetly doesnt sound like something the military would use... Just look at the name, Indepence Lost... Is that something for the military? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 29, 2002 It is not VBS. BIS is developing this as an expansion of some sort for OFP to be publicly available by mid-year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Postduifje 0 Posted January 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Jan. 29 2002,17:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It is not VBS. BIS is developing this as an expansion of some sort for OFP to be publicly available by mid-year.<span id='postcolor'> is this confirmed by BIS? or another speculation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r71 0 Posted January 29, 2002 I think it might be VBS and they let these pics out to keep ofp sales up. If it is a addon I think they should not put out any more units and weapons for dl and work on the few bugs that are left in the game. i.e. The troops in the HMMWV still hang out. I would say they have done a good job with what they put out and its time to make some more money with a big addon if that what the pics are about. *Just fix the bug that are left plz* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 29, 2002 It aint VBS because it dont have the logo and why would they get a civvie to make the wensite and have a forum on the website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Postduifje @ Jan. 29 2002,19:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">is this confirmed by BIS? or another speculation?<span id='postcolor'> Confirmed by multiple sources. Someone even got a confirmation by email from BIS. Now, whoop it up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Casto @ Jan. 29 2002,08:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what do you think is this VBS or not independencelost i think its not Vbs and something we will get.<span id='postcolor'> Seems you have edited your post now that you have been proved wrong lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted January 30, 2002 If this is a new addon, itll be a major one, because it means its adding a whole new branch of the military, new islands, a shiteload of new units, and it seems an engine overhaul (note that craft have landed on carriers). I think this will be extremely cool, especially since i might be able to play as the australians (i highly doubt it though, it looks a bit too marineish) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted January 30, 2002 Also, does anyone notice the dates on the newspaper? it noted that we had a referendum 23 days ago, (yet the last one we had was in the year 2000 about our becoming a republic), and the date that the Security Council extended the mandate of UNTAET, is set to tommorow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpaceAlex 0 Posted January 30, 2002 It's a new BIS project. You can read interview with Marek on this addres: http://english.bonusweb.cz/news/independenceloste020129.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted January 30, 2002 someone has already posted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpaceAlex 0 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (christophercles @ Jan. 30 2002,03:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">someone has already posted it.<span id='postcolor'> That was me, though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKK Gimbal 0 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpaceAlex @ Jan. 30 2002,04:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's a new BIS project. You can read interview with Marek on this addres: http://english.bonusweb.cz/news/independenceloste020129.html<span id='postcolor'> LOL! They ask the same question three times, Marek gives no answers and then they base an article on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 This is what it boils down to: BonusWeb: Is it a new datadisk or a new standalone project? Marek Spanel: I won't tell you whether it is a datadisk or a standalone project. We will inform you later this year; for now, all public information can be found on the homepage. Let's analyze this a little. A new data disk means it's similar to another Red Hammer campaign plus maybe a little bit more. It's basically an upgrade to a newer version of OFP 1. This would be easy on the player community and I think it means that we can all keep using and creating unofficial missions and addons, as we're doing today. Now, if it's a new standalone project, I doubt that this is another VBS1, simply because the whole IL site wreaks of PC gaming and not a contracted military simulator for some country's DOD or army. So, if it's a standalone game, that can mean one of two things: 1. It's OFP 2. It would then most likely be a major coding overhaul of OFP 1 but it would contain everything that OFP1 has - islands, missions, campaigns. It would mean that we may all have to buy a brand new product, like going from Delta Force 1 to 2 to Land Warrior. 2. It's not OFP. It's an independent product, very similar to OFP but forced to have a separate install. Here, too, it's a brand new product but, other than addons, worlds and uniforms, it's an OFP 1 look-alike, spun off as a separate product. If it winds up being a standalone, I hope it's not 2. I would love to have one product, one install, with all the missions, campaigns and worlds accessable within that single install and upward compatibility of all unofficial addons and missions. If this is the case, BIS may simply need to rename the product, as Flash Point is specifically alluding to the Cold War crisis and the product would now contain the 1985 Cold War Crisis and Independence Lost campaigns and maybe even Red Hammer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted January 30, 2002 Did they create a new website for red hammer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (christophercles @ Jan. 30 2002,10:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Did they create a new website for red hammer?<span id='postcolor'> RH is a Codemasters addon but this is a good point! Nevertheless, since the name "Operation Flashpoint" is referring to the Cold War crisis, it's wouldn't have been appropriate to place IL on the same site. As I said, BIS may need to rename the product if OFP and IL are combined in an all in one package. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Jan. 30 2002,10:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As I said, BIS may need to rename the product if OFP and IL are combined in an all in one package.<span id='postcolor'> If they do, they'll need a new domain name for that, too! Can anyone scan domain name databases for Bohemia Interactive or Codemasters as the registrants? /slaps meself on the back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 I have to revise much of what I said earlier. The Czech interview with Marek Spanel has him stating "I really don't want to reveal more, but it is not the datadisk we have already announced". That means that IL is independent of the announced expansion pack, scheduled for mid-year. Now what does that mean? Is this another separate expansion? Then why so hush-hush? Obviously this is something bigger and different. I'll put my money on this being a new product and a separate install. It doesn't sound like OFP 2! Depressing! If so, the question returns: will user made OFP addons work in IL, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt bastard 0 Posted January 30, 2002 Noticed that they have updated IL-site. But with nothing new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t_style 0 Posted January 30, 2002 I think that avonlady is right, but we'll just have to wait and see. I'm quessing that it is a completely new game, which just looks like OFP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (t_style @ Jan. 30 2002,13:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think that avonlady is right<span id='postcolor'> I'll add 2 Avon bonus points to your account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
